Luke Chapter 24 Discussion

Hi Darris , I've always wondered if perhaps it was because they didn't believe the messengers because they were women . Maybe they didn't believe that the women had seen the risen Christ before they themselves had seen him . Mark Ch 16 V 11 . I think that the apostles expected to be the first ones to have seen Jesus , not a couple of women . A bit of male arrogance perhaps ? Maybe or maybe not , this is just my take on what it says .

We need to carefully assess what Peter was told when He confessed Christ as the "Son of God." ( Matthew 16:15-16). Only God could have revealed this to him; that was the Lord's answer.

For the entire 3 1/2 years of Christ's ministry; they had never had a moment to doubt His victory over any circumtance; and had seen a few who were raised from the dead (Lazarus being only a week or so before Christ's crucifixion.) After Christ's repeated warnings "let this saying sink into your ears" ( Luke 9:44) where He predicted His crucifixion; AND all the related prophecies of the 'man of sorrows" from Isaiah 53; Psalm 22; and numerous other passages; they simply weren't prepared for the sudden letdown of His being arrested; tortured and killed. In human strength; during His agonies at Gethsemene; they simply fell asleep. When He was crucified; they simply were too emotionally spent to conceive that somehow He would be resurrected. Therefore they didn't even believe when the women reported the angels and the stone removed from the tomb.

It could be surmised that their betrayal in their minds led to Christ's death as though somehow it wasn't in the plan of redemption. After He came to them "incognito" in Luke 24; they finally got it only after he chastised their unbelief.

Up until this point; perhaps they weren't themselves prepared or having the strength to die themselves and to fulfill the Great Commission themselves. Christ in the flesh was all they knew; but after Pentecost; they were given what was promised from above with the Spirit indwelling after He had ascended to heaven; was seated in heavenly places; and ever interceding for us ( Hebrews 7:25).

Why did the desiples doubt that christ had arisen?

I know that I will very happy when I see Jesus and he tells me, "

I know that I will be joyfully happy when Jesus appears in front of me and tells me, "well done, come and follow me."

Their eyes were opened. Even though they were told that Jesus was resurrected they could not believe until their eyes were opened. Our spiritual eyes have to be opened to see the resurrected Jesus.

Yes Kent , God uses us to be angels to others and we can be talking to an angel and not know it . Every time you help some one who needs your help then you are acting as an angel to them . Have there have been times in your life when you have needed help but thought the situation was hopeless ? Then , suprise suprise , something happens , some one does something that changes the whole situation and your circumstances improve . God knows how to look after His own . Trust Him pray to Him and wait for the answer .

Isaiah 52:14,

Hi Eric Lopez, Yahweh and Jesus have the power to keep someone from recognizing them. Usually he does this to test their faith. We have to remember who we are dealing with. The Almighty Yah has all power in his hand.

I want to see this chapter protrayed in the show, The Chosen. How could they not know it was Jesus. Was his faced covered for the two decibels to not know it was him?

Precious friend, since our Eternal Welfare Depends on Truth, this "water for salvation" Must Be Discussed Until The 'Confusion' Disappears, or we Do Not "enter the kingdom," Correct?

Only With God's Word Of Truth, Rightly Divided 2 Timothy 2:15, This Can Be Done. Please Be Very 'Richly' Encouraged In JESUS CHRIST, And HIS 'ONE' Baptism For Today, Under GRACE:

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Jesus spoke in John 3:3-5 that we must be born of water & the Spirit to enter into the kingdom of God. This is fulfilled in the book of Acts 2:38. It is the New Testament salvation. Peter was given the keys to the kingdom of heaven by Jesus Christ. John the Baptist baptized unto repentance. Peter said to repent & be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins. And here's Luke 24:47: "And that repentance & remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem". Water baptism is all through the Bible. Noahs

ark was a type of baptism. The parting of the Red sea was a type of baptism. It's in the Bible & it's God's word. Amen to Darryl King. I've obeyed Acts 2:38. Amen

Donna

Luke 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it. - These are Jesus words

Joy,with the greatest respect Jesus is revealing how we are to respond to his gospel in verse 46.Baptism has to be performed in Christ's name,which is Jesus.Salvation is found in no other.(Act4;12).Peter obeyed this commandment on the day of Pentecost in Acts2;38.Only a Jesus baptism can remit our sins.

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Thank you Chris. It does seem that two thousand years and more later, God's people again want physical leading more than spiritual leading in this earth, even after the risen Son. Hopefully not so much that they cry out for another earthly king.

In my second paragraph, I should have said "However, in those silent years & beyond..."; because the period given to the writing of the apocryphal books extended beyond what we consider the silent years between the Testaments. Apologies.

Hi Nehemiah, the Bible as we have it, doesn't speak of those silent years between the Testaments. We would have to look at history to see what took place at that time, & specifically about the Medo-Persian & Roman Empires and their influence in the world, especially in Palestine. It would be best, if you're interested in that history, to read about it rather than my sharing it here in precis form. You can check it out at this very good Site, which gives a full, informative & easy to read account: templemount dot org. Go to the Reference Links at the bottom of the page & click on 'The 400 Years between the Hebrew & Christian Scriptures by Ray Stedman'.

However, during those silent years, from between 200 BC & 400 AD, several writings appeared what we now refer to as the Apocryphal Books. They received a mixed reception, some believing that they were vital information to be included with the rest of Scripture, to others believing that under various tests, those writings proved to be uninspired & contained inaccuracies. So they were not included in the Canon of Scripture we have now in the KJV.

When you read of the plight of the Jews during those silent years & what they suffered under the hands of those Empires, they too must have wondered, 'why was God keeping quiet & not dealing with the enemy, to bring His promised Saviour to us to defeat them'. But God's Word says, "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law, to redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons." Galatians 4:4,5. At the appointed time, God did move - not for a physical salvation from the human enemy, but a spiritual salvation from the unseen wicked enemy of our souls. God was no more silent. But now after 2000 years, the same question is asked by some, "where is God in our sufferings?" "When will He come to remove us?" When the fulness of (God's) time is come, Jesus WILL come again.

Greetings, Today at our three nearby congregations all coming together at one location, there is soon to be a wedding. These two believers man and woman first had born again experiences and have their conversation in the Lord for several years already. Today God Willing they will be married together in the Lord. A three fold cord. Some older folks because of the crowd size will be listening in. The service on the first day of the week is a blessing and even more so in remembrance of the the Resurrection.The wedding is a Gospel service and is only a few moments away from start. A new Christian home is soon in the works and someday soon a new Christian home is also being prepared in Heaven.

First song:"Worthy is the Lamb"

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God bless our meditations.

Amen and amen. Love reading His word. It is life.

I would put that scripture into Google and read down the lists on commentary of it.

A vision and a dream are not the same.

A vision is seeing a scene in real time.

Why did the scripture said the two angels were seen in a vision?

Hello Donna!

Those are great questions, but too broad to answer simply. In response to question #1, what specific events (passages of scripture) are you wondering if they took place in the old testament?

Generally speaking, you cannot understand the New Testament without the Old, and you cannot understand the Old without the New. They go hand in hand. The Old Testament was a period of thousands of years leading up to the life of Christ during which much prophecy about Jesus Christ himself, among other events, was given. Each Gospel presents different perspectives of the Life of Jesus Christ and evidence of the fulfillment of Old Testament Prophecies.

In response to question #2 The book of Matthew was the first writing after a 400 year gap, during which there was no prophetical, or other writings. It was written especially for the Jews to prove that Jesus was the predicted Messiah. Matthew reveals Him against the background of the Old Testament. This book lays a foundation for the transition from the old Dispensation of Law (The Jewish Age), to the new dispensation known as the Church age. All four Gospel's place particular emphasis on the last week of Jesus' earthly ministry...so yes, they were written after His death and resurrection.

I hope this answers your questions...!!

1. Did the things that happened in Matthew Mark Luke and John actually took place in the old testament? If so why are the 4 gospels listed in the new testament?

2. Did the new testament begin after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ?

Looking forward to hearing from you, thank you

Frank ,i think i understand and agree with you ,i have tried to read some Bible commentaries and as soon as i read something in them that i think is wrong i cant tolerate them any more ,i think the best thing to do is just keep reading the Bible ,all of it over and over again ,then you start to see the links and the perfection of God for yourself ,you start to see the parallels and the conections ,its a joy ! It never hurts to ask for some one elses opinion ,it might be very helpfull to do so but i belive in learning things for yourself ,study and search and as Jesus said "let these saying sink down into your ears " the Bible is avery big treasure chest and you have to keep digging and rummaging through it day after day and enjoy it .

Today we can read our bibles and not see the true meaning till God is ready to reveal his word.Thats why we need to constantly review and reread over and over till his true meaning is known by us

Oops I meant Matthew 26:28. "For this is my blood of the New testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins"

Read Luke 24:47 then in the New Testament it is fulfilled in Acts 2:38. "Repent & be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins & ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost". It is both water baptism & the Holy Ghost. Jesus spoke what was needed to enter into the kingdom of God in John 3:5. Water baptism is in Mark 16:16. Romans 6:3-8. Colossions 2. And 1st Peter3:18-21. Even in the old testament, the parting of the Red sea was a type of water baptism. Same as Noahs ark. Pls read it in the Bible. Jesus said in Matthew 28 "For this is my blood of the New Testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins". Acts 2:38 is the New Testament salvation as we love the Lord w all our heart, soul, & mind; & we must love our neighbor as thyself. Those 2 are commands. Without love for one another we will not make it to the kingdom. We must love as he does. We must crucify the flesh daily. Allow the Spirit to lead us. God is Spirit & those that worship him must worship him in Spirit & in truth.

Comments by Alex on Luke 24 : 49 This Promise baptism was H.G. baptism not water baptism ,Behold i send the Promise of my FATHER upon you etc. remember John said he ( Jesus ) must increase but i must decrease impling that water baptism had to decrease and H.G baptism wd increase, Ya gotta realize that even in the O.T. they had to apply Blood to the door post not water. But now the blood is applied to the doorpost of our hearts,Without the shedding of blood there was no remission of sins . Water baptism was very important B/F the Cross but after the Cross it was the BLOOD of the lamb that we must Behold thats y John was preaching behold the lamb of God ( the blood ) that taketh away the sins of the world. Water cannot remit sins if it cd Jesus shed his blood in vain and the Cross was just foolishness. In fact there were some in the time of Paul that were so wrapped up in water baptism the preaching of the Cross was just foolishness and it is still like that today with some religions. Once ya understand the Holyness of the Cross his blood you will neva mention water baptism again for the remission of sins. One of Johns disciples was still preaching water baptism after the Cross but they had to go to him and show him a more Perfect way Acts 18 : 25 Which was H.G baptism. The Baptism of Promise That resulted from the Cross. His blood. Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter he was commanding water baptism instead of lifting up the Blood the lamb of God that made them Clean to the highest realm that water cd neva do. H.G BAPTISM IS THE ULTIMATE CLEASING MAKING A MAN MORE PRECIOUS THEN GOLD IN THE SIGHT OF GOD. Nothin can be added to it or Compared to it. Its the very mediation of a the new covenant. After that Peter understood the vision he said then remembered I the words of our LORD JOHN BAPTISED YOU WITH WATER BUT I WILL BAPTISE YOU WITH THE H.G. AND FIRE WHICH WAS THE BAPTISM OF PROMISE. All the UNCLEAN animals in that sheet was the CHURCH MADE CLEAN BY HIS BLOOD.

Chris you do greatly err there is only 1 baptism of PROMISE which is the baptism of the H.G. not water baptism, Jesus , knew that ALL of his disciples had been water baptised but he warns them if I wash ( baptism of the H.G. ) THEE NOT YOU WILL HAVE NO PART WITH ME which speaks volumes of a greater baptism of his blood and they had all been water baptised see the need for the blood ABSOLUTLY nothin trumps the blood or can be compared to his Blood. Thats y the Lord was so upset with Peter he was impling that water baptism cd remit sins a slap in the face of God and the lamb of God impling what GOD HAS MADE CLEAN WAS BY THE BLOOD NOT WATER. LEST jESUS SHED HIS BLOOD IN VAIN. Luke 24 : 49 is not about water baptism but the baptisn of Promise behold i send the Promise of my father upon you but tarry in the city of jerusalem till ye be endued from on high Which was baptism of the H.G. 3 Times in the N.T. ITS RECORDED John baptised you with water but I will baptise you with the H.G. AND FIRE which is the baptism of PROMISE water baptism was neva the baptism of Promise . Chris even in the O.T. without the shedding of blood there was no remisison of sins thats y the Lord was so upset with Peter he was impling that the blood of our lord was insufficient and that water baptism cd remit sins making the blood of no effect as Paul also warns about saying that God sent me not to baptise but to preach the Gospel the Word the H.G fell on them that heard the Word th gospel .Go ye into all the world and preach the Gospel resulting in the giving of the H.G. not water baptism as water does not remit sins. lest our Lord shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness . I know that there were a few that still practiced water baptism . But we must remember what Jesus said IF I WASH THEE NOT ( TH PROMISE )YOU WILL HAVE NO PART WITH ME he told this to his disciples that had been water baptised i.e Unless WE ARE WASHED BY HIS BLOOD HE WILL HAVE NO PART WITH US THUS SAITH OUR LORD .

In Luke 24...The promise that Jesus our Lord spoke about to His followers is confirmed in Acts 2. Being filled with the Holy Spirit and one will receive power (dunamis; greek). Acts 2:38,39 explains that one repents, one receives salvation and one receives the promised (gift) of the Holy Spirit in His fullness. John baptized with water to repentance but Jesus baptizes in fire. When Jesus Christ ascended into heaven; He sat at the right hand of the Father on High and poured out His Holy Spirit on the believers who were already saved by the cross of Jesus Christ and His atoning blood. Now Acts reveals a gift from God which enables a true believer or believers in Jesus Christ to undergo His work on earth through His power...The result is 1st Corinthians 12 - 14; included within is the revealing of the gifts of the Holy Spirit....Jesus left us to be with His Father but did not forsake His Church but given Himself for us through His precious Spirit..