Luke Chapter 4 Discussion Page 2

Two Different Occasion Out of Many

Was Christ passing through the angry crowd the same incident as in John 8 or did it happen twice?

Reading without comments, rather letting the Holy Spirit speak, is my greatest gift in understanding scriptures as this Luke 4, as I had just searched the phrase "synagogue of Satan". I have The Mind of Christ guiding me by His written Word and by The Voice of His Spirit.

I believe he was tempting Jesus and trying to get him to bow down to him.

Why would the devil try to get jesus to prove his being if he was once an ark angel and should know

Verse 43~Jesus plainly made it clear that his purpose for being sent to the earth was to preach the good news of God's Kingdom.

Isaiah 61 is all we or Israel need to know about what Jesus was and is. If this chapter was examined determinedly we would have the key to everything. This is his description of himself.

What is it about Jesus being the Son of God, that is such a thorn in the eyes of the wicked? The main thing the devil can't leave alone, and the thing that he perversely wants to bow down to him, is the fact that Jesus is the Son of God. The unclean spirits in people know that He is the Son of God, and it makes them cry out in terror. Meanwhile it is men that don't want to understand or believe.

The Spirit of Christ brings glad tidings to the poor, healing to the broken in heart, liberty for those crushed under cruelty and oppression, and proclamation of a better Country and a Day of Eternal Righteousness to come. To those who are of the truth, the light springing up in their darkness is the glory of God and salvation; but to the rest who hate the light, it is the doom of God's rejection.

servant; it didn't take much for that serpent to come out and expose itself! "He that denies the Son, the same HAS NOT the Father...Who is he that denies that the Son of God has come in the flesh if not Antichrist?" Jesus didn't learn Torah from the Rabbis but spoke it to His servant Moses in the holy mount: and is who was with God and is God and IS coming again in all His Divine power and glory!

servant; it sounds like you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is in fact the eternal Son of God; but you write as if the Lord is merley like any other man, who at some point mysteriously became, (or realized), that He was the Christ. Jesus is God manifest in the flesh, and was in divine glory from all eternity WITH the Father. He didn't discuss Torah He IS the Law and the holy Glad Tidings.

Jesus-Church. He would daily be in the Church, or Temple with critical discussion regarding the Torah. When at the Reading of Issiah they heard enough andtossed him out! The Devil tempted him with being at the pinnacle of the Church, "Get there behind me Satan" What a card, that Satan. Woe unto Jesus if he didn't preach the gospel for therefore was he sent forth, to teach, and to witnessTruth

In the temptations that Jesus endured, He was indeed the same Man as all He answered the devil by the Scriptures, for the Scriptures lived in Him. Out of the abundance of His heart His mouth speaks; and as He speaks from His heart so is He! Giving NO PLACE to the devil nor any credence to a single thought or word from him; Jesus' entire course in life was what came out in His behavior and words.

Yes, satan knew Jesus VERY well; for Jesus is the one that cast satan rom Heaven - with his angels - and consigned them to a hell created for him and his followers; hell was created for JUST the devil and his angels before man was created, but - man changed that, Isa. 5:14.

God because he is good, do not tolerate intentional UGLINESS.

Zeingoff; the unclean spirits recognized Jesus, because He is God, and they knew Him from before this world was made. Men WILL NOT recognize Jesus because of an inherent heathen mind, that thrusts God and His Spirit away from earth, and out of the affairs of men. We have the kind of rulers we do because God has judged it to be so, on account of the sinning and defiant rebellion without restraint.

What struck me is that the devil recognizes who Jesus was before most of the people. He needed such a one for his service. He offered supernatural power but Jesus new his power was derived from the living God. Many have succumbed to the Devil's bargain, the foremost being in the highest office in the land. Very apocalyptic, if Revelation is to be believed. What do you think, Irene?

I love Lk. 4:16-21; They are the beginning of Jesus' ministry after He had fasted AND prayed. He went into the synagogue, asked for God's Word, turned to Isa. and STOOD UP to read (our example to follow) and then sat down and gave a summary of His ministry for the next 3 1/2 yrs. These scriptures, to me, are so 'holy' and full of such graciousness, wonder. Nor do I know why I feel this way - ?

The Lord Jesus confessed that He always did those things that pleased the Father; and so for our example to follow, He set everything He did and taught, in the way we should learn how to lay our foundation in God, and build upon. If we are to realize the blessedness, and be able to teach others of the way; we must first and fundamentally be proven by the searching fire of the Word, against Satan.

Before Jesus began His public service to the people, He subjected Himself to self-denial and trial of His soul under the devil's temptations. We should learn from Him in all things, and seek the same Spirit of wisdom, and a character that responds and behaves with honor, steadfastness and virtue. When we have set ourselves to seek God and humble ourselves, we must endure faithful and true.

Genesis 3:14
And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

King James Version (KJV)

To Bruce - something I forgot - No, satan has no power over GOD'S people, i.e. Job, Paul etc.; He has been given power in this earthly life over sinners - before they are saved. Yes, he is the god of this world.

You should read that part of job and you'll see he never asked. nobody said anything about the power of God. you're in denial of Satan's power! he destroys lives with his power! That's why you need the armor of God. if he have no power we wouldn't need armor! We would be living in the Garden of Eden.

To Bruce - I can see you WANT satan to have his own power; Jesus is bigger than that, Bruce; Jesus is God and He is ALL powerful; if God created satan - you know God is ALL power - and satan as none. It's just - common sense. "Come, let us reason together ..............."; God wants us to use our common He gave us. And - why do you think satan was there before God that day? To ASK ...........

Irene: Satan never asked for permission he never even mentioned Job. God mentioned to him consider Job. God told Job go ahead do what you want. He can play with the weather, he can play with the minds of people to hurt others! He's taken moreto hell then that are going to heaven I think thats power! He is called ruler,king,prince of the air. Put on all the armor to stand against his power!

To Bruce on satan - he doesn't have power. Job 1:6-12. He has to present himself before God and ask permission. God allows him to grieve us to test our love and faith for Him. Greater is He that is in you than he that is in the world.

Michael C: Satan has power and authority to give power and authority, Revelations 13. Destroyer of life 1Peter 5:8. ) Giver of life Romans 10:13

We don't listen to, or answer the devil's talk, about his power; he is a liar from the beginning, and the father of lies. His name literally means, Slanderer." Read the divine account in Genesis 3, and we see nothing said to the serpent about power and glory being given him! Where then did he get that perverted idea? He made it up, just like everything he thinks and says; all perversion and lies!

The Prince of the power of the air. V.6. All the power and the glory of the world has been given to satan. And he gives them to whomsoever he will. Understanding that, we can see how evil is being given out in the world today. To gov. officials, media, etc. Satan is free to distribute the power he has been given.

Verse 18 shows that Jesus had God's spirit and his authority to preach came from the highest authority.