Luke Chapter 5 Discussion Page 2

Dividing and conquering takes time. Satan is allowed only enough of it according to mans faithfulness! If man is faithful and true toward God, He is faithful and just to forgive! Seeking signs is a sin! Why God gave us revelation is what will be the end of man and His sin. We will never know that day, neither do the angels in heaven!

I literally believe what is written in the Book of Revelation. To put a 2021 spin on it, is misleading to people. There's much to read in chapters 13-16. God gives a blessing every time a person reads Revelation.

Revelation 19:20

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, AND THEM that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

Revelation 13:17

And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Revelation 14:9

And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

Revelation 14:11

And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

Revelation 16:2

And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.

Revelation 20:4

And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Mishael: I asked the Holy Spirit if people can ACCIDENTALLY get the Mark of the Beast? He said NO. People will get it willingly, in order to eat, live & take care of their families.

The Marked person has no more chance to recant and be saved. Chopping off the hand will not remove the death sentence of getting the Mark.

This is now. Roman history is not helpful really.

Gloria Rhine on Luke 5

How do I know not to fall into the mark of the beast 666, how and what do I look for so I don't take it?

Revelation 3:10 (KJV) 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

What is this great trial that is coming on the world? Jesus is saying, I will keep you that you shall not collapse under the trials which will prove a severe temptation to many when they will take the mark of the beast. When the beast and false prophet show up, most will worship the dragon which will be the hour of temptation and most will take the mark. This fleshly body is not what we are to save, because it is mortal, and "it is appointed unto men once to die".

The mark of the beast is said to be diverse things, a literal mark, a computer chip, symbols, and more. It may be like the Decian persecution in 250 AD. The decree ordered that sacrifices be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate, it was a signed and witnessed certificate, issued to that effect, except for Jews, who were exempted. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods and the well-being of the Emperor. Nevertheless, a great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies, and others went into hiding.

This picture language appears to identify those who had given either mental assent or extended the right hand of fellowship to this evil conglomerate power. These compromisers thus were able to prosper economically. By way of contrast, those who received not the mark were unable to buy or sell, hence suffered hardship, illustrated in the form of economic deprivation.

Clear all the preconceived ideas before you study Pray and let the Holy Spirit guide you. Hope this helps, Ron

Gloria Rhine on Luke 5

How do I know not to fall into the mark of the beast 666, how and what do I look for so I don't take it?

Revelation 3:10 (KJV) 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth.

What is this great trial that is coming on the world? Jesus is saying, I will keep you that you shall not collapse under the trials which will prove a severe temptation to many when they will take the mark of the beast. When the beast and false prophet show up, most will worship the dragon which will be the hour of temptation and most will take the mark. This fleshly body is not what we are to save, because it is mortal, and "it is appointed unto men once to die".

The mark of the beast is said to be diverse things, a literal mark, a computer chip, symbols, and more. It may be like the Decian persecution in 250 AD. The decree ordered that sacrifices be performed in the presence of a Roman magistrate, it was a signed and witnessed certificate, issued to that effect, except for Jews, who were exempted. People had to perform a sacrifice to the Roman gods and the well-being of the Emperor. Nevertheless, a great number of Christians were put to death for refusing to perform the sacrifices, many others apostatized (falling away) and performed the ceremonies, and others went into hiding.

This picture language appears to identify those who had given either mental assent or extended the right hand of fellowship to this evil conglomerate power. These compromisers thus were able to prosper economically. By way of contrast, those who received not the mark were unable to buy or sell, hence suffered hardship, illustrated in the form of economic deprivation.

Clear all the preconceived ideas before you study Pray and let the Holy Spirit guide you. Hope this helps, Ron

Use the search box where you first enter this website. Type in the box, the words you want to look up or read at length by yourself.

Like: Mark of the Beast, Antichrist, False Prophet, end of days, Last days,Falling Away. If your Bible has center of each page references to other passages, you can expand your study reading those too. Matthew 24 has many references to the End Times, and what will be happening on our planet.

A lot of people (especially the older crowd) who scorn Oral Roberts; have never listened to his teaching of the Book of Revelation on YouTube.

We as Christians should never disparage on a Brother (or sister), in Christ. His teaching is just that: teaching. I highly recommend it. I pray it will kindle your interest in understanding what is happening now. He teaches Matthew 24 also.

The Mark of the Beast, is done to the forehead or the hand. It's a conscious decision.

Flu shots, immunizations or vaccines are Not given in the hand or head. When you get a shot, ask God to bless it, sanctify it and make it Holy for you to receive. Amen.

Mishael

How do I know not to fall into the mark of the beast 666, how and what do I look for so I don't take it?

In verse 3 when Jesus sat down and taught, what did he teach about?

Dorothy, I'm thinking about your question...and thousands of years ago medicine was super simple. You can look up what are the humors of medicine. It's four colors of fluid that told what a person had. That's how they identified disease. So, no microscopes or labwork. If, you go back and read the Old Testament, about leprosy and how a person was to leave the camp and then be inspected by the Priest, it seems to be that medicine and faith and sin were all together. So, like barbers that cut our hair now, a hundred or so years ago, they were the dentist and did a whole multitude of services. In JOB, when he's stricken, his friends visit and ask what sins did he commit. He kept saying none. But, they said why else would he be stricken with the sufferings he did. In the New Testament, the man that was born blind, and was healed, the disciples asked who had sinned, him or his parents. Jesus said neither, he was born blind so God could be glorified. He was born blind so Jesus would be able to so his healing ability. Like that was the blind man's purpose. So, I'm suggesting, that in the Old Testament if a person was sick, it was believed they had sinned. So, they had to leave the camp for a week until they were clean again. Or, in some cases be unclean till evening, depending on what was done. The Priest was the healer by directing the different sacrifices. If, you were a non-believer you were kicked out of the temple. Which you see examples of in the New Testament. Jesus, had to teach and show a whole new way of thought. That's what is meant by new cloth and old cloth and new wine into old wine bottles. The Leviathan and Behemoth in JOB explained by God, tells how things (sickensses) happen, it's not because of sin as the Jewish Priest seem to teach. Non-believers were kicked out of camp, or killed. Like when Moses came down from Mt Sinai and the people had the golden calf and were worshipping that.

No. One or two unbeliever doctors doesn't condemn the whole profession.

I like 700 club when I have coffee in the morning. (I don't have cable or streaming)

I've seen many brave doctors get on there and testify that after a patient was prayed for in the room, before surgery, they had great success! Some had tumors that just weren't there anymore!

I would probably tell them not to mind the angels in the corner watching over my operation :D I'm most inclined to do serious warfare for aches and pains my doc says: it's just part of aging. Grrrr.

Everybody lose 10 lbs and walk 30 minutes after eating your oatmeal at breakfast. It will make your cholesterol normal. I just walk and pray...remind myself that Jesus walked everywhere. :). I don't know why, but when I sing, bringing in the sheaves, it makes me think of tamales.

is there anywhere n the bible speak that the doctors are for non believers or people of less faith

Isaiah 53:5

"But he was wounded for our transgressions, he was bruised for our iniquities: the chastisement of our peace was upon him; and with his stripes we are healed.". ...." Tattoos yea some more than others"

Tattoo's Leviticus 19:28 Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.

what dose the bible say about tattoo's and body art?

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But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts? You don't have to say anything, He know your thoughts.

Jesus saw the faith of the men who brought the paralyzed man right in front of Him. They're true believers of Jesus as they overcome all obstacles just to bring their friend to Him. A person who truly believes in Jesus will bring his friends, family, or anyone right in front of Him. It takes a genuine faith of a true believer for others to be saved, to be forgiven, to be healed. Jesus knew exactly how to deal the case of the paralyzed man. Sin is the real cause of any kind of sickness and disease. The real miracle is having a restored relationship with God.

old testament, new testament.

The new wine is the Gospel that Christ has brought to us. The wine skins are the forms of his parables that contain the wine. The old wine skins are the forms of Judaism and the wine it contains is old and well matured. Judaism cannot contain the new wine of the Gospel. But Jesus is not about to disparage Judaism so he says most connoisseurs of wine like the old wine best.

The whole 2nd half of this chapter is on being clean and how when you choose to follow Christ you should not evil in your life, like sinful strongholds. Verse 38 explains that new things need to be in a new container. Same for your life, when you commit to following Jesus you need to give up the corruption and sinful habits and be fully renewed and committed to Jesus. Some people may need to give up certain friends, jobs, or other temptations. Matthew 5:30

Jesus wants ALL OF HIS CHILDREN to obey and trust Him. Jesus knows everything and nothing catches Him by surprise. They fished all night and caught nothing but when Jesus spoke things changed. In HIS presence we all can expect things to change for our good. Just obey HIS WORDS.

Im concerned about verses 36 and 37 , Im struggling with what it means can some explain it to me please.

And he spake also a parable unto them No man putteth a piece of a new garment upon an old if otherwise, then both the new maketh a rent, and the piece that was taken out of the new agreeth not with the old. Jesus is saying that you can t mix the laws of Moses with the new teaching from him. I only view the Old Testament as a history lesson. I don t mix it with the New.

We can forgive offenses, only God redeems man from his sin nature. No priest, pastor, or preacher can do it either. Sin is eternal separation from God, make sure you are forgiven by Him only but strive to live in harmony with everyone...

Peter launching out, advise of Jesus. Caught his biggest draught. Only to be told by Jesus, that he will be catching Men instead. Peter just hit the Jackpot, and now he has to change Carreers. Thank God for his obedience to the commands of Jesus. Obedience is better than Sacrifice. When you think of Pentecost. Three thousand Souls were saved. Jesus knew what He could accomplish through Peter.

Our Lord came to fulfill the prophecy of the book of Esaias. The Jewish leaders were full of hypocrisy because of their own traditions. They refused the Messiah, therefore the Lord went and invited others like the gentiles to be saved. He walked among his own yet he was ignored. The parable of the old cloth and wine bottles makes reference of this, Luke 5, Vs36-38. He says preach to all nations.

Verse 13~Jesus had such great compassion that he touched the leper and let him know that he wanted to heal him. Jesus did not have to touch the leper but he wanted to show how much he cared.

"When Simon Peter saw it, he fell down at Jesus' knees, saying, Depart from me; for I am a sinful man, O Lord. For he was astonished, and all that were with him, at the draught (the load or quantity drawn) of the fishes which they had taken:" At first Peter thought he was a nice guy and open to Jesus; willing to do what he himself thought looked useless. But Jesus shows him something from GOD!

The garment in this parable represents the teaching of Moses and the Prophets, as of how we are clothed in heaven with our righteous acts and knowledge of the Torah. Jesus, the Messiah is meant to repair the threadbare parts but he knows the disputes that lie ahead from the leaders of the Temple. They will be threatened and rouse the people against the Christ. Jesus stay on earth was short.

"And he said to them also a likeness; For no man takes a piece from a new cloth, and puts it into an old clothing; else both he breaks the new, and the piece of the new accords not to the old." (Wycliffe Bible) We cannot "accept" Jesus into our old falling apart sin-worn lives. We must be Born From Above, Born Anew, through the Water of Life of the Word, and the Baptism in the Spirit and in Fire.

Bud, Tresspass=sin, offense, immorality, wickedness, abuse, err, unlawful act, slander, etc; whatever the case may be if we do not forgive them for the transgression, iniquity, the Lord will not forgive us. God will have the final say at the judgment seat, so we had better take care of it, before we get there. . Matthew 6:15, Matt. 18:21 "brother sin against me."

LU2677; Thanks for the reply but to me there is a difference. Sin; transgression of divine law.
Trespass; in unlawful act causing injury to person, property or rights of another. In Math: he stated forgiveness against a person not GOD.