The last verses, 58-62, all I can say is, Wow! Sad, that these others were so caught up in their comfort zones, enough, to even keep them, from being used by the Master.
Obviously, Peter, James and John see the kingdom coming at the Mt of Transfiguration. John especially, the Book of Revelation.
Compare all 3 passages of Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:1-9 and Luke 9:26-36.
Remember, Moses had died and God had buried him. Michael the archangel goes to get his body Jude 1:9
Elias (Elijah) was picked up by a chariot of fire 2 Kings 2:11-12.
They are returned by and re-enter a "cloud" where the voice of the Father is heard, Luke 9:34-35. Note the Father must have been in that cloud / chariot.
The clouds and chariots connection is found in Psalm 104:3 The clouds typify the chariots of the LORD which number 20,000 Psalm 68:17.. notice they are "as in Sinai", Moses time in Exodus. Of course the Cloud in Exodus performed as an aircraft / spacecraft as it came down from heaven and then did many aerial maneuvers.
When the second coming happens it is referred to many times as a "day of clouds" and in Isaiah 66:15 it involves "his chariots",
which is a fleet of at least 20,000 - Psalms 68:17.
Moses and Elias represent the Law and the Prophets, which is what Jesus came to fulfill - Luke 24:44 and they "spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem" - Luke 9:31
So then, Jesus makes the statement that there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God... refers to the event of The Mt of Transfiguration event.
The verse has to do with what Jesus was talking about. Lets see what he was saying :
Luke 9:23-27
23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
25nFor what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Jesus was talking about those who wanted to follow Him. He warned them that one has to deny everything, even his own life, and suffer persecutions to be able to follow Him.
The reward for those that believe in Him and follow him all the way through all harsh circumstances met in life is been accepted in the Kingdom of God. So He said there are people standing there that either
1) will not die the (spiritual) death untill this Kingdom arrives on earth .He talks about tthe litteral Kindom of God arriving at the very end of this world
or 2) He may have implied that there were people standing there that will not die the physical death untill His Kingdom arrives (He means His ressurection when the saved ones were transferred from Ades to Heaven.
But since Jesus talks about coming with glory and angels the former explanation seems to the right one, though the latter may not be wrong either.
The previous verse gives the period of time in which this takes place. Luke 9:26. For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, WHEN HE SHALL COME IN HIS OWN GLORY, AND IN HIS FATHER'S, AND OF THE HOLY ANGELS.
In the preceding verses
Luke 9:28-35. we see a GLIMPSE of Christ in his glory that is mentioned. Also Peter makes mention of this event in 2 Peter 1:16-18. For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
I believe this takes place at his second coming. Look at Matthew's account.
Matthew 16:27. For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; AND THEN HE SHALL REWARD EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS.
Revelation 22:12. And, behold, I come quickly; AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME, TO GIVE EVERY MAN ACCORDING AS HIS WORK SHALL BE.
Hiya Dora GBU....Yes I can explain that easily....When the Kingdom comes folks are gona be doing the works Jesus did and GREATER and the world is gonna see this and be DRAWN to Christs Kingdom wanting to forsake all and follow him...I WILL DRAW ALL MEN unto Me..meaning they are gona taste of DEATH impling selling everything and forsaking even their families....Remember Peter said we have forsaken all to follow you...Even the early Church sold everything and followed Jesus...And divided all their goods to everybody and anybody which is Death to their carnal minds that loves materialistic things and This life and wife and Children...The H.G. is gonna Regenerate himself in humanity...causing folks to DIE to the things of this world...Scripture says the slain of the Lord will be many....Outta of his mouth goes a Sharp Sword and he will smite the nations.
.....Jesus said he that loveth wife or Children more then me is not worthy of me....or MY kingdom...We will ALL taste of death and enjoy it...The manchild is the H.G. The Kingdom that is gonna be born in everybody and rule all this world... Joel 2 :28 I will pour out of my Spirit on ALL flesh...Your sons and daughterS are gonna prophesy....Even our Children are gona be DRAWN UNTO HIM...The whole family is gona be saved....If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...Thus all men will gladly taste of death for his KINGDOM.
.....Jesus said if a man forsake not all that he has he cannot be my disciple which is death to our carnal minds that loves materialistic things this life and family...homes etc...Money in the bank etc...Remember what Paul said I have suffered the LOSS OF ALL THINGS AND COUNT THEM BUT DUNG THAT I MIGHT WIN CHRIST ETC...Paul had died to the Flesh
.....Don't worry whats impossible with mans is possible with God.
Good day, Jesus after this event gave a glimpse of the future and the kingdom to John before he died which is the book of Revelation. There exists also the apocalypse of Peter which is not part of the 66 books, nor the Apocrypha.
Also to note the following verses have Jesus taking Peter, 1/2 brother James, and John on a sojourn to pray where they SAW Moses and Elijah and Heard a voice from heaven as our Lord was transfigured.
There be some standing here , those words are key , Jesus was talking about some one who was stood nearby listening to him . When you read the book of Acts and the account is Stephens death , you will see that this incident exactly fits with what Jesus says . This is why it's important to read the whole Bible , Old and New , any questions you have , the answers will be in there some where , you have to be patient and persistent in your reading and read the words carefully . Often the simplest answer is the correct one , enjoy it as it all unfolds for you , much love in Christ .
Hi Dora , I believe that this verse refers to Stephen in the book of Acts . Read the account of his death and you will see why I think that . Every question that the Bible poses it answers , you just have to keep reading .
Good question. I can offer an opinion on this topic.
I think it means that when Jesus returns or otherwise at the end of the world those who are alive will not taste death, because they're still alive and haven't died yet, and then the Christ followers will see the kingdom of God.
The phrase some standing here could mean people in the future may be standing in that same spot when Jesus returns. I saw that the basic English Bible interprets it as some who were standing there with Jesus (back then) wouldn't die before they see the kingdom of God. I think the former interpretation makes more sense.
There's a similar verse 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 that refers to the dead as those asleep. It says the dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are alive will then be caught up in the air with Jesus. Some call this event a rapture.
Matthew 24:36-42 is another passage describing these end time events. God bless...
Please read them again He didn't tell them not to follow Him. This was after John the Baptist was killed, they were already trying to kill Jesus. Time was upon them & it wasn't with fine accommodations. Luke 9:22, Luke 9:51-53,
Luke 9:57-58,
Luke 9:59,60,
Luke 9:61-62,
Look in Luke 10, Luke 10:2, He said the labourers are few, two guys had excuses, one guy Jesus gave him facts of hardship. It's interesting that after that Jesus said the labourers are few.
Being in the Presence of God - In Reply on Luke 9 - 2 years ago
Luke 9:29
And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
1 Chronicles 29:2
Now I have prepared with all my might for the house of my God the gold for things to be made of gold, and the silver for things of silver, and the brass for things of brass, the iron for things of iron, and wood for things of wood; onyx stones, and stones to be set, glistering stones, and of divers colours, and all manner of precious stones, and marble stones in abundance.
Comment: It wasn't a good moment for the disciples to go into "building program mode".
If Jesus, Elijah, Moses, and the Father are together; it's a good time to be on your face worshipping.
Dear "Dwight" yes really, In the preface to Luke we learn: Explained to me today that Luke is a disciple of Paul. Until now, I have believed and perceived Luke as Jesus' disciple. Gonna tell you things become obvious in their time! Good luck with the reading, and notice that the Words stay in you. God bless you and yours. Stay in the Word and the Word stays in you, Jesus loves you. Be blessed in His Holy Name, love you in Christ. Chapter 1 Luke
Hello Brenda. In this passage, three different men approach Jesus, no doubt they have been hearing His Words in past encounters with Jesus & sensing that they would like to be a part of His Ministry. My understanding of this is:
The first man (described as a scribe in Matthew 8:19) wanted to be a part of Jesus' team. But as was Jesus' Knowledge of people & the workings of their hearts, He spoke to the man that the life of discipleship can come with hardship & uncertainty. This ought to have been no problem to a faithful follower of Jesus, knowing that no hardship was too great to prevent service to the Master. But this man, as supposed, approached Jesus with a wrong heart, hoping for riches & recognition in Jesus' Kingdom. Jesus gave him a simple example that discipleship could mean not even an assurance of a roof over his head, let alone any other comfort or gain. The man turned away, maybe dejected that this life with Jesus was not what he expected.
The second man was a distant disciple of Jesus (i.e. not of the twelve disciples - Matthew 8:21). Jesus urged him to join them in their travels but he seemed to be happy to be a casual disciple without a commitment. So he excused himself by saying that he would follow Jesus after his father died & his responsibilities to him ceased. Jesus said that the message of the Kingdom was far more important, to leave his father & eventual burial arrangements to those who don't believe in Jesus or committed to Him.
And the third man gave a similar response to Jesus: that he wanted to follow Him but needed to say his farewells first. Again Jesus saw this man's heart & character; that he would be persuaded to remain at home for a longer time or even be persuaded not to be foolish & pursue such a life with no certainties. One who is committed to serve as a follower/believer ("putting the hand to the plough"), & then looks back (or, has second thoughts or easily distracted by others), is unfit for Kingdom life & service.
61 and 62, I have never understood this before, until now, If you say I will be a Christian for a while and return from where I went you are only following out of curiosity. But if you give your heart permanently and do not go back you are a believer. Jesus wants us to be a true believer forever. We must put God first above all things and all people. If we put God first then we include everyone else with us.
Hi Eric The vision seen by peter james and john was Elijah and moses, they were not physically there because they were dead jesus told the disciples to tell no one. It is the same type of vision given to peter in the book of acts by the spirit Acts 10:17. A vision is revealed knowledge to give direction by God to do or understand what he wants known or done. The church Epistles Given to Paul concerning the Church of God in the age of grace is this kind of knowledge known as revelation or revealed by the spirit.
Hi Eric. Elias (the Latin/Greek word) is just another name for Elijah (the Hebrew spelling in English is, Eliyahu). And this name means, 'Yahweh is my God'.
Some thing I cannot stress enough through experience and the Wisdom of the word of God .
ALWAYS give Jesus the last word on any matter . If any other contradicts What Jesus says they are wrong .
Jesus said in Luke 21 and Matthew 24 " beware lest any man deceive you " . If you stick with Jesus words you will be the minority, but on the right road . May God bless those that will not settle for anything less than the truth !
This healer, this one who will move you without a word, has His disciples awe struck! He reminds them that the night in the garden is coming when man is coming for Him. Settle these things now in your minds! The prophecy from the beginning must be filled up, complete! The church, His church , will be everlasting, not temporary, everlasting! Created in the heaven and earth! Having these things first always in your heart and mind. You will see, even as they walk him away from us! Let these sayings sink down into your ears.
Jesus is called "the son of man" to emphasize the fact that he was truly human. There were some in the first century who did not teach this truth.
1 John 4:2-3 "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
Jesus is "the son of man". The Hebrew word "Adam" means, in fact, "man". Thus, Jesus is "the son of man (Adam). He is a descendant of Adam. He had a human mother, Mary, that made that possible.
Galatians 4:4 "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, MADE (BORN) OF A WOMAN, made under the law,"
Romans 1:3-4 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh (THE SON OF MAN); And declared to be THE SON OF GOD with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Matthew 16:13 "When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I THE SON OF MAN am?"
Matthew 16:16 "And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD."
John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am THE SON OF GOD?"
So, Jesus Christ is thus referred to as both "the son of man" and "the son of God".
Jesus uses the phrase "Son of Man" to acknowledge His humanity. He is both God and man. He is the the perfect High Priest in that He is a man that can understand our weaknesses and struggles and He is the Son of God who is the only one that knows the thoughts of God. Also, He had to be a man to carry our sins on the cross of Calvary. His humanity is very important.
Compare all 3 passages of Matthew 17:1-9, Mark 9:1-9 and Luke 9:26-36.
Remember, Moses had died and God had buried him. Michael the archangel goes to get his body Jude 1:9
Elias (Elijah) was picked up by a chariot of fire 2 Kings 2:11-12.
They are returned by and re-enter a "cloud" where the voice of the Father is heard, Luke 9:34-35. Note the Father must have been in that cloud / chariot.
The clouds and chariots connection is found in Psalm 104:3 The clouds typify the chariots of the LORD which number 20,000 Psalm 68:17.. notice they are "as in Sinai", Moses time in Exodus. Of course the Cloud in Exodus performed as an aircraft / spacecraft as it came down from heaven and then did many aerial maneuvers.
When the second coming happens it is referred to many times as a "day of clouds" and in Isaiah 66:15 it involves "his chariots",
which is a fleet of at least 20,000 - Psalms 68:17.
Moses and Elias represent the Law and the Prophets, which is what Jesus came to fulfill - Luke 24:44 and they "spake of his decease which he should accomplish at Jerusalem" - Luke 9:31
So then, Jesus makes the statement that there be some standing here which shall not taste of death till they see the kingdom of God... refers to the event of The Mt of Transfiguration event.
The verse has to do with what Jesus was talking about. Lets see what he was saying :
Luke 9:23-27
23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
24 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: but whosoever will lose his life for my sake, the same shall save it.
25nFor what is a man advantaged, if he gain the whole world, and lose himself, or be cast away?
26 For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he shall come in his own glory, and in his Father's, and of the holy angels.
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Jesus was talking about those who wanted to follow Him. He warned them that one has to deny everything, even his own life, and suffer persecutions to be able to follow Him.
The reward for those that believe in Him and follow him all the way through all harsh circumstances met in life is been accepted in the Kingdom of God. So He said there are people standing there that either
1) will not die the (spiritual) death untill this Kingdom arrives on earth .He talks about tthe litteral Kindom of God arriving at the very end of this world
or 2) He may have implied that there were people standing there that will not die the physical death untill His Kingdom arrives (He means His ressurection when the saved ones were transferred from Ades to Heaven.
But since Jesus talks about coming with glory and angels the former explanation seems to the right one, though the latter may not be wrong either.
GBU
On Luke 9:27.
The previous verse gives the period of time in which this takes place. Luke 9:26. For whosoever shall be ashamed of me and of my words, of him shall the Son of man be ashamed, WHEN HE SHALL COME IN HIS OWN GLORY, AND IN HIS FATHER'S, AND OF THE HOLY ANGELS.
In the preceding verses
Luke 9:28-35. we see a GLIMPSE of Christ in his glory that is mentioned. Also Peter makes mention of this event in 2 Peter 1:16-18. For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.
For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.
And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
I believe this takes place at his second coming. Look at Matthew's account.
Matthew 16:27. For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; AND THEN HE SHALL REWARD EVERY MAN ACCORDING TO HIS WORKS.
Revelation 22:12. And, behold, I come quickly; AND MY REWARD IS WITH ME, TO GIVE EVERY MAN ACCORDING AS HIS WORK SHALL BE.
I hope this helps,
God bless.
.....Jesus said he that loveth wife or Children more then me is not worthy of me....or MY kingdom...We will ALL taste of death and enjoy it...The manchild is the H.G. The Kingdom that is gonna be born in everybody and rule all this world... Joel 2 :28 I will pour out of my Spirit on ALL flesh...Your sons and daughterS are gonna prophesy....Even our Children are gona be DRAWN UNTO HIM...The whole family is gona be saved....If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...Thus all men will gladly taste of death for his KINGDOM.
.....Jesus said if a man forsake not all that he has he cannot be my disciple which is death to our carnal minds that loves materialistic things this life and family...homes etc...Money in the bank etc...Remember what Paul said I have suffered the LOSS OF ALL THINGS AND COUNT THEM BUT DUNG THAT I MIGHT WIN CHRIST ETC...Paul had died to the Flesh
.....Don't worry whats impossible with mans is possible with God.
Also to note the following verses have Jesus taking Peter, 1/2 brother James, and John on a sojourn to pray where they SAW Moses and Elijah and Heard a voice from heaven as our Lord was transfigured.
Respectfully,
Good question. I can offer an opinion on this topic.
I think it means that when Jesus returns or otherwise at the end of the world those who are alive will not taste death, because they're still alive and haven't died yet, and then the Christ followers will see the kingdom of God.
The phrase some standing here could mean people in the future may be standing in that same spot when Jesus returns. I saw that the basic English Bible interprets it as some who were standing there with Jesus (back then) wouldn't die before they see the kingdom of God. I think the former interpretation makes more sense.
There's a similar verse 1 Thessalonians 4:14-17 that refers to the dead as those asleep. It says the dead in Christ will rise first, then those who are alive will then be caught up in the air with Jesus. Some call this event a rapture.
Matthew 24:36-42 is another passage describing these end time events. God bless...
27 But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God.
Can you explain/expound please?
Luke 9:57-58,
Luke 9:59,60,
Luke 9:61-62,
Look in Luke 10, Luke 10:2, He said the labourers are few, two guys had excuses, one guy Jesus gave him facts of hardship. It's interesting that after that Jesus said the labourers are few.
It doesn't say they didn't follow Him.
Hopefully this is helpful
And as he prayed, the fashion of his countenance was altered, and his raiment was white and glistering.
1 Chronicles 29:2
Now I have prepared with all my might for the house of my God the gold for things to be made of gold, and the silver for things of silver, and the brass for things of brass, the iron for things of iron, and wood for things of wood; onyx stones, and stones to be set, glistering stones, and of divers colours, and all manner of precious stones, and marble stones in abundance.
Comment: It wasn't a good moment for the disciples to go into "building program mode".
If Jesus, Elijah, Moses, and the Father are together; it's a good time to be on your face worshipping.
Stii, Jesus didn't scold them.
Mishael
The first man (described as a scribe in Matthew 8:19) wanted to be a part of Jesus' team. But as was Jesus' Knowledge of people & the workings of their hearts, He spoke to the man that the life of discipleship can come with hardship & uncertainty. This ought to have been no problem to a faithful follower of Jesus, knowing that no hardship was too great to prevent service to the Master. But this man, as supposed, approached Jesus with a wrong heart, hoping for riches & recognition in Jesus' Kingdom. Jesus gave him a simple example that discipleship could mean not even an assurance of a roof over his head, let alone any other comfort or gain. The man turned away, maybe dejected that this life with Jesus was not what he expected.
The second man was a distant disciple of Jesus (i.e. not of the twelve disciples - Matthew 8:21). Jesus urged him to join them in their travels but he seemed to be happy to be a casual disciple without a commitment. So he excused himself by saying that he would follow Jesus after his father died & his responsibilities to him ceased. Jesus said that the message of the Kingdom was far more important, to leave his father & eventual burial arrangements to those who don't believe in Jesus or committed to Him.
And the third man gave a similar response to Jesus: that he wanted to follow Him but needed to say his farewells first. Again Jesus saw this man's heart & character; that he would be persuaded to remain at home for a longer time or even be persuaded not to be foolish & pursue such a life with no certainties. One who is committed to serve as a follower/believer ("putting the hand to the plough"), & then looks back (or, has second thoughts or easily distracted by others), is unfit for Kingdom life & service.
That voice from heaven must be God speaking about Jesus ! No ? or Yes ? thanks a million
ALWAYS give Jesus the last word on any matter . If any other contradicts What Jesus says they are wrong .
Jesus said in Luke 21 and Matthew 24 " beware lest any man deceive you " . If you stick with Jesus words you will be the minority, but on the right road . May God bless those that will not settle for anything less than the truth !
I guess that's not helpful with those of the gender reassignment culture. Good News on that, is, Jesus died for all of mankind.
God "so loved the world" that He gave His one and only son; so that whosoever will call on Him, may be saved.
There's still a chance, so preach the Truth in LOVE, and allow the Holy Spirit to do His Work.
Mishael
Jesus is called "the son of man" to emphasize the fact that he was truly human. There were some in the first century who did not teach this truth.
1 John 4:2-3 "Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come IN THE FLESH is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world."
Jesus is "the son of man". The Hebrew word "Adam" means, in fact, "man". Thus, Jesus is "the son of man (Adam). He is a descendant of Adam. He had a human mother, Mary, that made that possible.
Galatians 4:4 "But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, MADE (BORN) OF A WOMAN, made under the law,"
Romans 1:3-4 "Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh (THE SON OF MAN); And declared to be THE SON OF GOD with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:
Matthew 16:13 "When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I THE SON OF MAN am?"
Matthew 16:16 "And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD."
John 10:36 "Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am THE SON OF GOD?"
So, Jesus Christ is thus referred to as both "the son of man" and "the son of God".
With kind regards.
Jesus uses the phrase "Son of Man" to acknowledge His humanity. He is both God and man. He is the the perfect High Priest in that He is a man that can understand our weaknesses and struggles and He is the Son of God who is the only one that knows the thoughts of God. Also, He had to be a man to carry our sins on the cross of Calvary. His humanity is very important.
I hope this helps.