Mark Chapter 2 Discussion Page 3

Hi Mishael, just noticed your reply about Genesis 6 giants/Nephilim. If you don't think they're from angels and humans, then what do you think that verse means?

No....and no. Humans in heaven will be like the angels. There will be no marriage, dating or anything like that.

If you opt to stay on earth....it's going to be burned with fire (as in cleansed).

Our Christian walk is step by step - day by day.

There are many good comments by some folks here, so I won't say too much as it would probably be redundant.

I would like to suggest reading Psalm 73 with regards to our worldly enemies who we perceive as getting away with their sins.

"Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end." Psalms 73:17

Their end is eternal damnation.

Can angles and humans have children?

Are these children the giants of Genesis 6:2-4?

Sabboth is Saturday.

Praise and worship are key in Old Testament wars. Read over in Chronicles about King David. That's how we do it. The Holy Spirit is ready to bestow His gifts, for ministry. You have to pray, ask, And receive. Then study what that gift is for. Again.. read your Bible. Get a Strongs Concordance. It's faster.

This is living Church outside the walls guys; gals. Our government is going to try to distract us by removing our statues (to demoralize us.) They are going to persecute the church for being resistant to gay agendas, abortion agendas, racial agendas, co-Ed school agendas: they have all these strategies to divide us and keep us in little boxes.

These days are truly the last days. Our target is to pray to the Lord of the Harvest to send Workers into that Harvest, to COMPEL the unsaved to come to Jesus now. Before it's to late. This door of opportunity will be closed by the Rapture (caught up into the clouds). Don't get hung up on rapture not being a Bible word.

1 Thessalonians 4:17 Is the correct name to Google. 2 Peter 3:12, BE LOOKING FOR JESUS. Stop arguing about this, ok?

If you aren't looking up for Jesus, then you my friend are a Sadducee. They didn't believe in the Resurrection so they are "sad you see"... awaiting hell.

Read the Gospels and memorize how Jesus taught his disciples. Google the stories of people that are evangelizing in beautiful orderly crowds; witnessing to people they meet.

Be encouraged. You are truly seeing God do something new. If you don't sense that trumpet call in your spirit? Maybe turn off the tv and really start seeking Jesus's direction for you. If your mind feels kinda cloudy when you read the Bible, it may be hindering and harassing demons spirits. Bind them and cast them into outer darkness, in Jesus name. Keep it up till they give up and move on to something easier.

We win! Jesus is with us. He will protect us with angelic protection. Don't focus on anything other than JESUS.

Mishael

Everyone read up on Jesus's last week before the Cross. That's where we are.

The "Religious" scribes, Pharisees, Sadducees, and leftover Zealots were intent on wiping out Jesus's teachings, he Himself, and protecting "their" fine Temple with all its wealth and artifacts, etc. intolerant of anything Jesus said about it being torn down. We're the same spirit. We argue continually about deep doctrinal issues that don't tell others a reason to be born again and follow Jesus.

We are looking at a massive move into APOSTASY at this very moment. People need to be born again and Delivered from demons that hold them back from understanding how to live born again until Jesus returns! Does anyone in here know how to sniff out demon Fruits and cast them out in Jesus name and send them into outer darkness? Ephesians 6. Demons are invisible; only their fruits give them up.

Have you ever gone to church and sat in on a Deliverance Service? Where people pray for the oppressed of demons, to be set gloriously free??

There's MAINTENANCE to be taught on how to keep yourself free from demonic reappearances. If they don't furnish the fleshly body that Houses the spiritual man inside, demons will try to get their old house back. People have to be so full of Bible that no demon will stick a claw back into that place. Maintain! Every time a swear word flies out of your mouth or you watch sensual themes on tv, that's a demon trying to reclaim you! Turn it off and read your Bible.



If you want to know what Satan's next strategy is against the Body of Christ, turn on the news!!

Where's the Watchmen? Where's the Gap Standers? The intercessor prayer teams? People with the gift of prophesy from the Holy Spirit who is our captain on earth? Where are those with the gift of a Word of Wisdom? We need all of the Holy Spirits gifts working together right now in the Body of Christ Jesus. We need our Praise and Worship teams in their Places!

Mishael

It helps me to hear you say this. I miss Billy too. I still encourage myself on his sermons on youtube. Friday I saw a story on the news; how the young Christians in Portland were taking evangelism out into the streets. They see that Jesus is the answer for the violence and frustration.

They're not protesting. They're lifting up Jesus. We have to intercede for them. Jesus is doing something new.

I would love to see that happening in here too. Pastors need to see the real hunger for living the Church out in the streets.

They have questions that require useful answers. Not miles upon miles of church history. Not Splitting hairs on which way is the right way, the right Bible, the right spin on doctrine. They are crying out to just know the real Jesus and what he did and taught for 3 years!!

This is the final push. We're living the last days of Jesus's life on earth.

Our government=the Pharisees and Sadducees are closing our churches, forbidding us to sing; planning to take away our tax exempt status away. Churches in Europe are being Closed and sold off to become restaurants or play lands.

I thought it was evil exploding. I cried out, why is this happening?!? And then, maybe it was a light....God is in on this. He's closing our hideaways and refuges of wood and stone. We will see something new every day! Satan is taking it to the streets; and God is urging us to do also but to do it with praise, worship, witnessing His Love right on a public sidewalk. Lifting up Jesus. I do not think we need to go near to what the rioting, burning, vandalizing crowds are doing!!

I see this move of the Lord beginning in the highways and byways, smaller towns, and moving ever closer to the cities that are taken over by 'zealots' who are using BLM's banner to perpetuate their real agendas. Destruction, Hatred and chaos ARE ALWAYS THE FRUIT OF SATAN.

We cannot be a part of that!! Lift up Jesus and He will draw people to Himself. This is like Jericho sorta.

The first words to simon and Andrew were to follow me and I will make you fishers of men! Fishermen of men! This is the message that indeed, as you say is not being spoken. Christ is the way . Why are repeating Christs words so difficult? Why is the church not inviting people to be baptised and saved, no more alter calls. Not unlike Pastor Billy Graham! Baptism should be like when John Baptised Jesus in the Jordan river. People should be called like never before! Pastors ,deacons, elders, young and old should be shouting out the name of Jesus! Jesus always said, never be afraid! Preach the gospel, in and out of season, always! The marriage is ready! call everyone from the hi ways and byways. Indeed his kingdom is at hand,Jesus wants all men to be saved. The marriage is ready! The church today is stuck! Stuck with their idea that perhaps there is another way of salvation, a salvation based on works! Perhaps it thinks its vial doesn't need to be full, that it can share its oil with another mans idea, and still be ready when Christ arrives? Based on an idea that there is something else that needs to be done! We need to exalt Christ, our redeemer from sin and eternal death. There is salvation in none other ,but the blood of Jesus Christ!

The Sabbath day was the day that God designated as the day that the Israelites would not be doing anything else but praying and worshipping Him. With respect with Israel time The sabbath was from 6pm Saturday to 6pm Sunday so sometime it is believed by some that the Sabbath was on Saturday while others believed it was Sunday.

Jesus Christ fulfilled the Sabbath day, He is the Master of the Sabbath.

Matthew chapter 12

For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

And when he was departed thence, he went into their synagogue (Church)

And, behold, there was a man which had his hand withered. And they asked him (Jesus) saying, Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath days? that they might accuse him.

And he said unto them, What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the sabbath day, will he not lay hold on it, and lift it out?

How much then is a man better than a sheep? Wherefore it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

Then saith he to the man, Stretch forth thine hand. And he stretched it forth; and it was restored whole, like as the other.

Then the Pharisees (Religious people) went out, and held a council against him, how they might destroy him.

Sabbath is a Jewish word that describes the day everyone goes to Church. And he is showing that it can be on any day of the week if necessary.

A Christian church is when everyone comes to pray for salvations and healings; everyone agreeing together and praying for someone to experience the power of the Holy Spirit

Sabbath or Church is for the people...not only the priest or the pastor.

I've been to some churches where half the service is dance-a-thon and not a lot of study. If you aren't learning anything, you might need to google some churches and see what their Tenets Of Faith are. What are their beliefs.

We need BIBLE TEACHING! Not psychology, not marriage restoration; not services that are 50% entertainment where people just sit and watch. Do you catch what I'm saying? It's the people that are the engines that drive some church services. A Pastor that doesn't feed his sheep; produces skinny, unhealthy sheep. They fall into ditches, fall into sin.

This isn't the 80's,90's, 2000-2019. It's 2020. Signs are starting to happen. Jesus is returning SOON. People need to know what's coming on the earth SOON!

what is sabbath

In reference to the confusion as to the identity of Jesus' followers, I offer John 7:5 as evidence that states,"even his brother did not believe in Him". James and Jude, his half brothers by Mary, did not become believers until after the resurrection; therefore, they were not among the 12 apostles and followers of Jesus during his ministry.

No where does it say Joseph, the husband of Mary died. And if he did, No where does it say that Mary the mother of Jesus remarried. I think you all are getting your Mary's mixed up. The wedding? It does not say who is getting married. You people are changing the words of God. I'll pray for you.

Joe-There are 2 Mary s Mary and Mary called Magdalene, or Madeline. Mary was the wife of Cleophas and Mary Magdalene was Mary s sister. Mark 15:40, 15:47 tells the identity of the 2 Mary s.

Ann - I read John 19:25 by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. as being 3 women Jesus's mother named Mary, his mother's sister also named Mary, and Mary Magdalena. The wife of Cleophas is Jesus's aunt not Jesus's mother.

New wine bursts wine skins.That doesn't happen with bottles. What happened to the original wine skins.

Randall... The point... Jesus chose his brothers to be his apostles. Cleophas and Alphaeus are the same person: Mary the wife of Cleophas or Alphaeus, was the mother of James, Simon and Thaddeus, and Joseph. Matthew 13:55 ... and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?

It's possible because there can be more than one person named Judas or Thadeus. Do you not know many people named George? There is also another person in the Bible named Jesus. Look it up. Just because there is one instance of a person named Judas doesn't mean every person named Judas is the same person.

Joe ... The Word of God does not come out and say who these people are. Matthew, James and Judas Lebbaeus Thaddaeus are the sons of Alphaeus. Mark 2:14, Matthew 10:3 James and Judas are also The Lord s brothers. How can this be? These can only be both Jesus brothers and the sons of Alphaeus IF Mary married Alphaeus, who is Cleophas, which Mary DID! John 19:25

You may be correct, BUT please provide chapter and verse to support your points. Unless you can show me the scripture: I can only believe the scripture - nothing else.

James and John, Zebedee s sons, are always mentioned together. Mary and Jesus brothers sisters travel with Jesus. NO Joseph. John 2:12, Mark 3:31, Mark 6:3. Mary is the wife of Cleophas. John 19:25 Now there stood by the cross of Jesus his mother, and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Cleophas, and Mary Magdalene. Cleopas KNEW all about Jesus because he married Mary. Luke 24:18, 22, 24, 31

Two different James. James son of Alphaeus and James the son of Zebedee and his brother was John. Tell me where it said that Alphaeus married Mary? There are also two Judas that the bible speaks of. Lots of names the same. Its hard to keep them apart some times. But as far as Mary marring Alphaeus, I can't find it. I can't also find where Joseph Mary's husband died.

Question It states that Levi Matthew is the son of Alphaeus. But in chapter 3, it states James is the son of Alphaeus. Can someone please clear this up? Answer Matthew Levi , James, The Lord s brother, and Judas Thaddeus are ALL the sons of Alphaeus. Mary married Alphaeus Joseph s brother after Joseph died. Jesus half-brothers are the sons of Alphaeus, Matthew, James, and Judas.

Ann: HUH? No where does it say anything that you are saying.

James, the Lord s brother, and his brother Judas, and Matthew are all the sons of Alphaeus. Mary, Jesus mother, remarried after Joseph died to Joseph s brother, Alphaeus, according to Leviate marriage when a brother died without a son, it was the brother s duty to marry his brother s wife to provide his brother a heir. The marriage at Cana was the marriage of Mary to Alphaeus Cleopas .

There are two possibilities either Levi

Tonya Clapp, Andrew, and Philip, and Bartholomew, and Matthew, and Thomas, and James the sons of Alphaeus. The way I see this, All of this men were brothers and there father was Alphaeus. You will notice that the word son in Mark 3 chapter is in italics should read sons not son.

Tonya, most scholars believe they were not brothers , but their fathers had the same name, I don't think anyone is really sure

Most importantly read the whole Book and let the word of God lead your heart God Bless Amen!