Mark Chapter 4 Discussion Page 3

18 And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word,19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful. (education, more education, laziness, money, more money, careers, cars, cloths, anger, meanness, can easily be thorn(s) in our life if allowed; these will choke the word

Whats the difference in the 'kingdom of God' and the 'kingtom of Heaven'?

Verse 9~Jesus did not just want people to hear his words, but he wanted people to act on them.

Verse 27~The man has no control over spiritual growth. Spiritual growth can't be forced or sped up.

I think vs 24, to be one of most precious verses in the N.T. It seems to set forth an important spiritual truth...

You will get out of reading, hearing and studying God's Word, what it is you put into it. "For with what measure you mete, it shall be measured to you again..."

This is a powerful admonition for us to study and to hear His Word. Romans 10:17...

The storm at sea doesn't let up as Jesus resides in heaven and we on earth have "little faith". We must fend for ourselves, the blind leading the blind. The word has been sown. The sun came up and the earth germinated not the seed for the ground was hard. Thorns and thisles choked the Word for there was lies and corruption. But some shall hear and faint not in their pursuit of the truth, few.

We should not let the cares of this world affect us

We need grow in our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ

Verses 18 and 19: The anxieties of life and wanting material things can cause one's love for God and for God's Word to be choked out and die.

There is not a storm big enough god can not handle in a blink of an eye

Verse 24 reminds me of the principle that you get out of something how much you put into something.

Eze. 8:12 "..Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery?.." When we come before the Lord to hear His word, we have to know WHO it is, that we come before; and with Him who sees into our innermost selves, and shines light upon all our thoughts and intents; we must examine ourselves in truth to set in order before Him.

To Felicia - AMEN Felicia; Acts 2:38

Let us wake Jesus up in our storms by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving and He will speak the only three words Peace, be still. His creation is subject to His voice. This should help increase our faith and remember that Jesus is with us whether in the boat or in the fire He is inside of us who believe. Just call upon His name and His presence will appear. Lord, you are good to me Thanks!

Anthony: Joe, you can be sure he is not talking about possessions. He's talking about true treasures received by reading studying the word with prayer telling others, helping them in their walk. The more you do these things the more you receive. V-23,24,25 go together. Your spiritual ears are opened when you do the above

Jesus calms the storm what a great phrase its like the storms that he calms in our lives.

to BSP Mark 4:22
Pray things are brought to light soon, strange times we are living in.

Mark 4:22 shows that nothing done in secret will remain a secret forever. Eventually all things are brought into the light sooner or later. If someone thinks they are getting away with something then it's good to know that things will be brought forward and dealt with eventually because God sees everything and nothing is hidden from His sight.

If you are in christ, you will over come any type of storm that may comes your way. You will not fall so long as Jesus is in your boart.

I believe that Jesus is teaching us that we must be willing to give God and people our best so that God and people will give us their best in return.

Anthony - I'm not sure vs 25 means material things. What about: To he that hath faith, more will be given him and he that hath not faith, from him shall be taken ... One could also change the word faith to understanding. Now I am not trying to add words to the scripture, but I do wonder about the intended meaning of this verse

Verse 12 - People are shown the truth of the future of mankind with parables of past events.
Convert = cause to change in form, character, function. If people do not understand the parables and teach falsely, they will change the lessons taught and forgive themselves the lies they teach as being truth.

Mark 4 is a chapter of direction and instruction if we would follow the instructions and directions of Christ our lives would be much different

Great words

The deep things of God are not for everyone. Though Jehovah God is good towards all, he reserves special rights for those who love him whole souled. He reveals insight into the future events ahead of us to, those who would appreciate. It is as Jesus said, do not throw your pearls before swine.

Remember, the disciples were already in the boat with Christ which should have been enough to secure their hearts on safety, the same applies to Christians who fear unnecessarily today however bleak the outlook at the time because satan is as a roaring lion ready and eager to pounce at any moment. The world 's tide will always be contrary to saints, hence the need for strong faith whatever attack the enemy levels at us. It is rarely noticed that there were other boats following them on that same rough sea who were without the assurance of Christ as an anchor to rely on. It is the same today for all Saints who are in the safe keeping of having The Saviour with them. What ever happened to those other boats only God knows, they had heard The Word and seen the miracles but how many were lost because they did not partake of the true Bread of life even when they had watched and even share in eating the miracle food from the hand of the Lord himself. Time is short, beware the satanicly inspire doubts from an already sentenced prince of darkness.

About having faith and believe on God 's word as I read it, and when I hear it preached. You have to believe in it with your heart when it it received, study more of it, then tell others about it. It takes time to fully understand most of it as some of the word is in parables. There is no rushing with it, and if we do not understand it well enough, we might confuse others. Most people get choke when trials if these world present themselves. Also, we must guard the word, and receive it with our hearts, not just gladly in front of others, but must retain it deep in our hearts. Just like the mustard seed, sooner or later we will become fruitful. Every seed has a different time to bare fruit. Some seeds can be attack by satan, some do not get any attack at all. Thanking God for his word again.

I believe there is nothing wrong with the seed the word . Besides, we first hear the word before receiving it. There after there word germinates and later becomes fruitful. At every point the hearer must do his due deligence in making sure the word is not troden upon, taken away or choked by the cares and passion of the world.

My Understanding of this chapter is once the true word of God is reveal in you, then Satan will immediately come in your mind to bring doubt and fear. As soon as Jesus taught this parable immediately the storm came to bring doubt and fear into the disciples. Satan will Always come Immediately just after we received the word and start to believe in our hearts. he Satan will choke the word twist the words in your mind to cause disbelief. It started in the garden with Eve and he is a master of this trick today.

He is telling that if u dont have faith in what u know and hear them u have no faith in me and what i can do, that is why ilove it cause he letting them to have faith and watch him work it out for u but ur faith have to be strong enough.