Jesus sent his twelve disciples in Matt.10 Twelve refers to the Gospel (of Christ) where as Luke is referring to the end times Seventy 'other disciples' which is preached from mid-heaven. (There is a difference to make the point would require another post) "And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,"(Re.14:6) In the Bible we have so many instances where the Spirit refers to a specific even and it telescopes into the end times. Refer the verse where God appears to King Solomon second time. (1 Ki.9:3) " I have hallowed this house, which thou hast built, to put my name there for ever; and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually." It is referring to the House of Prayer for all nations.
Now in the Luke version we have a similar construction from vv.17-18 "And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name./And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Jesus as the Word become flesh is referring to what the scriptures indicate. "For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me,"( Luke 22:37) Luke's Gospel gives another insight of the Son while the Jewish sensibilities of Matthew gives us yet another.
Seventy (7x10) number is another cue. 7 is the command number which is used for referring completeness. Where 10 indicates man's life. Thus Jesus fasting forty days and nights or he was seen after he was risen." he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days"(Ac.1:3) God gave 70 elders the spirit that was upon Moses (Nu.11:25)
Discussion on Matthew 10: Near term and far reaching prophetic implications.
When we see Matthew 10 and compare it with Luke 10 we see some differences. Those in Matthew 10 were told only to go the lost sheep of the house of Israel ( Matthew 10:6). Such was NOT the case with the 72 in Luke's account. We see there is no return mentioned of the Disciples as was with the 72 in Luke 10:17. The same cities were rebuked in Matthew 11:17 as they are in Luke 10:13-15. (incidentally these cities were rebuked BEFORE the Disciples retuned which also signifies their lack of belief in the miracles of Christ Himself if not implying their lack of response to the Gospel and miracles the Disciples and 72 performed in both Gospel accounts).
When we look at Matthew 10 we see far implications; persecutions; being hated by all nations for His Name's sake; going to trial with kings and rulers and finally verses in verse 22:23. "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." This is a clear indication of the Tribulation as indeed this refers to the Second Coming. It is notable today that one cannot be a citizen of Israel if declaring themselves to be a Christian. The only other option here is to somehow imply the Lord came already as a Full Preterist viewpoint which says somehow Christ already returned in AD 70. The implications here are not only for the Disciples but all those who are going to suffer persecution for His Name's sake; perhaps particularly but not only related to the cities of Israel. Also the 144,000 and 2 Prophets would also be something bringing the climax and greatest challenge for Israel ever seen in the time of "Jacob's Trouble". ( Jeremiah 30:7). God promises deliverance eventually; by death or Rapture or Resurrection.
**The Latter Day RAINS** (Zachariah 10:1) to come & wash our minds from what we think & our hearts from what we desire, that The MESSIAH may bless our minds to dwell on what The HE thinks & fill our hearts with what
*HE desires* to be done. For the good works of men are filthy rags & *The MESSIAH's Works* *endure For-Ever* & never a lack to their IN-crease. Who do you want to work for?
Pray for
*The POWER* of
The MESSIAH in
*The might of HIS strength* (Ephesians6:10 -17). And all 6 qualities mentioned of HIS great ARMOR. If we seek them out with all our heart&put on the 1st- 6 gifts, is it not his will to show us the *7th greater gift.
Pray without ceasing(meaning morning&evening) that we may
*be filled* with
*the full knowledge* of
*HIS will* for us in
*all wisdom* &
*spiritual understanding* (Colossians1:9).
Pray like the mighty & receive like the mighty, HE is not a respecter of mankind what HE has done for one, HE will do for another !!
That we may go forth girded up in HIS Truth, in HIS Power uncovering the great deceit in the last days & expose it with HIS Truth, silencing the scoffers in love & leading many to HIS magnificent Truth.
Pray for YAHSHUA to send HIS Word that The SPIRIT of YAHWEH may bring IT to our remembrance, teaching us how our prayers may come in before HIM w/the fibrant prayer(the knocking) of the righteous(is it not written,James&Paul knew). That HE may open HE's gates w/Thanksgiving & enter into HIS courts w/praise, that HE may hear our prayers as sweet incense & act upon them(king David & John the Revelator knew). Because we pray according to The SPIRIT of Truth bringing to our remembrance The LivingWORD of The Magnificent SON, The MOUTHPIECE of The FATHER YAHWEH unto all the creation !!
Let us pray to be among them, that ar jump higher &shouting louder, great thanksgiving & praise, crying out look what YAHSHUA can do with a lowly one like me!
Hi Barry. In Luke chapter 15, Jesus shares three parables with those who came to listen to him. And these folk were both the Jewish religious leaders as well as the despised publicans & others burdened with sin. The religious leaders saw this Man Jesus as a low class careless person, given to receiving & fellowshipping with like-minded people. Knowing their thoughts, Jesus then proceeded to give them these parables that should have removed their objections, if they used their ears & hearts to receive God's
Message.
And the simple structure of each of those parables was: the responsible shepherd searching for even one lost sheep; the diligent woman searching for that one lost piece of silver coin; and the loving Father who waited for & longed for his one beloved son, deemed to be lost & possibly dead, to once again return back to his family. And in all three parables, there was much rejoicing that the once lost was now found. And what should have hit home to those Jewish leaders, was what Jesus stated in Luke 15:7: "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."
I'm sure Jesus riveted His Eyes on them when He emphasized that all of Heaven rejoices when that one lost sinner has repented & is found, unlike those who considered themselves righteous & without sin looking down upon the spiritually destitute. Instead of leading lost perishing souls to God (through Jesus their Messiah), the leaders determined to cast judgement against them & rejected them as the filth of the world. Rather, their own hearts lay bare before their Wise Judge & they would have done well to heed Jesus' Message to them & first look inwardly rather than finding fault in others.
Even those who inadvertently stray away, or lose their direction in life, even as the prodigal son who made a deliberate unwise choice to leave, still have a patient God in Heaven longing for their return.
The Pastor is WRONG, and the Bible does support the death of the soul,,,it's called the second death, at the Great White Throne Judgement if thou hath not repented and come to the Lord, thou shall perish.
They are cast into the lake of fire, for God IS that lake of fire
DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)
PSALMS 37:13 But the lawless shall perish, And the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
What happens to the fat when it drips onto the coals in a BBQ?
DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)
20 And the beast was arrested, and with him the false prophet that did the signs before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone
The Son of Perdition means liable to Die, He's the only one sentenced to DEATH thus far, but many follow him into the lake, whereby they die.
As I see this verse, It says not to be fearful of anyone who can kill our bodies where they do die. But to fear the One who can destroy body and soul in hell. I believe, since kill is not used in to second scenario, that Jesus is talking about eternal destruction, eternal punishment, and eternal condemnation, not the death of our soul. I believe that our soul will live immortally as will our bodies at the resurrection, either in heaven or hell. As far as at death when our bodies are dead, is our soul also dead? I don't think it ceases to exist during this time. What does it do during the time of our mortal death and our resurrection?
I would hope to get some well thought out and well explained replies this. This discussion has been on this site before in recent weeks, but not concerning this verse, as far as I can recall.
I agree with your pastor. Matthew 10:28 says, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
That word able is the key. This to me says that God is able to destroy both soul and body in hell, meaning He has the capacity and ability to do so, but no place in scripture supports the idea that He has or will destroy anyone's soul in Hell.
In fact, the bible seems to teach that the soul, when it departs our physical body at death (And death literally means separation), but the soul lives throughout eternity in either Heaven or Hell. Matthew 25:46 is one place that would support the eternal existence of the soul. It says, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." There are several other places in scripture that also support the same eternal existence of the soul.
Now if the soul is destroyed in Hell, how could it be everlasting punishment? Some do teach that the soul will be destroyed, meaning that it will cease to exist. They call it annihilation. But the bible does not support that teaching. But I would have to agree with your pastor. As person will either spend eternity with Christ, or they will go off to everlasting (Same as eternity) punishment, completely separated from Christ throughout eternity.
Is there any other place/s in scripture other than Matthew 10:28 that would cause you to believe that the soul is not eternal?
matthew10:28 be afraid of him that can kill the soul in hell [GOD] last Sunday our Pastor said the soul never dies. I believe the soul does die in hell... what say you??
Jesus has begun giving instructions about what He wants His twelve hand-picked apostles to do when He sends them out on their own ( Matthew 10:1-4). He began by defining where they should not go: to any Gentile areas or Samaritan towns ( Matthew 10:5). Instead, Jesus now says, He is sending His representatives to the "lost sheep of Israel."
At the end of the previous chapter, Matthew described Jesus as feeling compassion for the people as He looked out over the crowds. Jesus saw that they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Those are the "lost sheep" Jesus is sending His disciples to reach with the good news of the Messiah and the kingdom of heaven.
In saying this, Jesus was directing the good news to all the people of Israel, not just some. God's plan was that the good news of Jesus would first be preached to Israel and then later to the rest of the nations ( Romans 1:16).
Context Summary
Matthew 10:5-15 contains Jesus' instructions for His twelve apostles, for their missionary trip to the towns of Galilee, in northern Israel. Their mission will be to preach His message that the kingdom of heaven is near, while also healing people and casting out demons. The apostles must not take with them extra money or clothes. Instead, they will stay with those who are worthy in each town they visit. If nobody in a town believes their message, the disciples are to shake the dust of that town from their feet. Jesus will follow these instructions with a series of warnings and encouragements.
I just read up on this by googling "wise as serpents, gentle as doves meaning. The site "Got Questions" has a good write up on this scripture from Jesus. I refer you to that site, which explains it better than I could.
Dear "Yvonne Haynes", Here you have found a question. :) Which probably has more views on it than i have. I will try to show you. A snake: Crawls, eels, bites, is poisonous, is cunning, hides, waits for the right moment.
A pigeon: Alert, stays at a distance, flies away easily, sensitive, notices everything, wants a quiet environment, peacefull.
In the kingdom of God for and saved souls, all this can be used for that cause and much more. These are opportunities we can use forever, and be a servant of Jesus Christ. So it is not a small option. This makes me think of all the possibilities. But we must be aware of and end up in the salad once in a while as well. :)
Good luck and here are some words from Jesus Himself:
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
I would like to share with you my perspective from a biblical Greek study on this word hate. In Luke 14:26, it says " If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
First of all let me tell you what the word hate means. This word is MISEO. It is not the word for hostile or hatred as we know it in English. It is a word of comparison. When MISEO is used with any of the words that have to do with love, it is showing comparison.
In other words, Jesus is saying you must love me so much that the comparison between me and anybody else, or anything else, it makes it look like you hate them. You really don't, but that's what it looks like. It can't even be close!
Jesus is not talking about walking away from our families. He's talking about cutting the emotional ties, not cutting the relationship. We need to understand that. In our society, there's a big play on the social interaction with friends and relatives. Jesus didn't say you couldn't have family. Jesus didn't say that you have to stop your relationship with family members. That is not what He is saying.
He is saying that when it comes to choice and service, and what to do with your life, basically it's a no-brainer. It is Jesus. Family members that don't know Jesus aren't going to understand that. But do you know what they are going to understand? They are going to see and understand that Jesus means more to you than anything or anybody else in the world.
So this is the teaching of Jesus, you must hate. That is, love everybody much less then you love me. It can't even be close. No question about it. You love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself, and that's a Hebraism for you are going to love your neighbor according to how you love the Lord.
I believe it is like the nature of them. A serpent hides for conflict & watches it's opponent, yet instead of striking HE says be harmless as doves, doves are gentle don't peck or bite, they do however defend family & territory, I've also heard some will hide their nest & lead people & other creatures away from it.
So, I believe it means when Jesus was directing HIS first disciple; He knew the dangers they would encounter as they went. Matthew 10:16-18, He knew they needed directions. Matthew 10,
Example : I, by nature can be rather bold, knowing GOD has amazing power in all circumstance. That was before I faced severely dangerous situations for myself & family. When we were in a hostile area, unfamiliar territory overtaken with much crime & lawlessness, the LORD reminded me of these scriptures. It is wise in dangerous, unfamiliar area to be wise, observant, 'out of the spotlight', meek. It kept us safer, yet because we were different it also gave testimony. The scriptures also said "for the testimony against them" .
Deuteronomy 24:1-4 - When a man hath taken a wife and married her, and it comes to pass that she find no favor in his eyes because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. The bible does say that in Christ
you quoted:
matthew 10:23 .... ye (those 12 disciples) shall not have gone over the cities of israel, til the son of man be come.
christ came the second time when god raised him from the dead, we became joint-heirs, we are the body of christ.
christ came; the second time, in the clouds of heaven, the new creation.
colossians 1:27 .... this mystery ...... christ in you .......
john 17:22 and the glory that thou has give me, i have given them, that they may be one, as we are one.
the gospel is believing what god has done for man.
psalms 107:8 o that man would praise the god of his goodness, and for his wonderful works to the children of man.
god bless you!
Now in the Luke version we have a similar construction from vv.17-18 "And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name./And he said unto them, I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Jesus as the Word become flesh is referring to what the scriptures indicate. "For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me,"( Luke 22:37) Luke's Gospel gives another insight of the Son while the Jewish sensibilities of Matthew gives us yet another.
Seventy (7x10) number is another cue. 7 is the command number which is used for referring completeness. Where 10 indicates man's life. Thus Jesus fasting forty days and nights or he was seen after he was risen." he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days"(Ac.1:3) God gave 70 elders the spirit that was upon Moses (Nu.11:25)
When we see Matthew 10 and compare it with Luke 10 we see some differences. Those in Matthew 10 were told only to go the lost sheep of the house of Israel ( Matthew 10:6). Such was NOT the case with the 72 in Luke's account. We see there is no return mentioned of the Disciples as was with the 72 in Luke 10:17. The same cities were rebuked in Matthew 11:17 as they are in Luke 10:13-15. (incidentally these cities were rebuked BEFORE the Disciples retuned which also signifies their lack of belief in the miracles of Christ Himself if not implying their lack of response to the Gospel and miracles the Disciples and 72 performed in both Gospel accounts).
When we look at Matthew 10 we see far implications; persecutions; being hated by all nations for His Name's sake; going to trial with kings and rulers and finally verses in verse 22:23. "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come." This is a clear indication of the Tribulation as indeed this refers to the Second Coming. It is notable today that one cannot be a citizen of Israel if declaring themselves to be a Christian. The only other option here is to somehow imply the Lord came already as a Full Preterist viewpoint which says somehow Christ already returned in AD 70. The implications here are not only for the Disciples but all those who are going to suffer persecution for His Name's sake; perhaps particularly but not only related to the cities of Israel. Also the 144,000 and 2 Prophets would also be something bringing the climax and greatest challenge for Israel ever seen in the time of "Jacob's Trouble". ( Jeremiah 30:7). God promises deliverance eventually; by death or Rapture or Resurrection.
Agape.
**The Latter Day RAINS** (Zachariah 10:1) to come & wash our minds from what we think & our hearts from what we desire, that The MESSIAH may bless our minds to dwell on what The HE thinks & fill our hearts with what
*HE desires* to be done. For the good works of men are filthy rags & *The MESSIAH's Works* *endure For-Ever* & never a lack to their IN-crease. Who do you want to work for?
Pray for
*The POWER* of
The MESSIAH in
*The might of HIS strength* (Ephesians6:10 -17). And all 6 qualities mentioned of HIS great ARMOR. If we seek them out with all our heart&put on the 1st- 6 gifts, is it not his will to show us the *7th greater gift.
Pray without ceasing(meaning morning&evening) that we may
*be filled* with
*the full knowledge* of
*HIS will* for us in
*all wisdom* &
*spiritual understanding* (Colossians1:9).
Pray like the mighty & receive like the mighty, HE is not a respecter of mankind what HE has done for one, HE will do for another !!
That we may go forth girded up in HIS Truth, in HIS Power uncovering the great deceit in the last days & expose it with HIS Truth, silencing the scoffers in love & leading many to HIS magnificent Truth.
Pray for YAHSHUA to send HIS Word that The SPIRIT of YAHWEH may bring IT to our remembrance, teaching us how our prayers may come in before HIM w/the fibrant prayer(the knocking) of the righteous(is it not written,James&Paul knew). That HE may open HE's gates w/Thanksgiving & enter into HIS courts w/praise, that HE may hear our prayers as sweet incense & act upon them(king David & John the Revelator knew). Because we pray according to The SPIRIT of Truth bringing to our remembrance The LivingWORD of The Magnificent SON, The MOUTHPIECE of The FATHER YAHWEH unto all the creation !!
Let us pray to be among them, that ar jump higher &shouting louder, great thanksgiving & praise, crying out look what YAHSHUA can do with a lowly one like me!
Message.
And the simple structure of each of those parables was: the responsible shepherd searching for even one lost sheep; the diligent woman searching for that one lost piece of silver coin; and the loving Father who waited for & longed for his one beloved son, deemed to be lost & possibly dead, to once again return back to his family. And in all three parables, there was much rejoicing that the once lost was now found. And what should have hit home to those Jewish leaders, was what Jesus stated in Luke 15:7: "I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety and nine just persons, which need no repentance."
I'm sure Jesus riveted His Eyes on them when He emphasized that all of Heaven rejoices when that one lost sinner has repented & is found, unlike those who considered themselves righteous & without sin looking down upon the spiritually destitute. Instead of leading lost perishing souls to God (through Jesus their Messiah), the leaders determined to cast judgement against them & rejected them as the filth of the world. Rather, their own hearts lay bare before their Wise Judge & they would have done well to heed Jesus' Message to them & first look inwardly rather than finding fault in others.
Even those who inadvertently stray away, or lose their direction in life, even as the prodigal son who made a deliberate unwise choice to leave, still have a patient God in Heaven longing for their return.
They are cast into the lake of fire, for God IS that lake of fire
DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)
PSALMS 37:13 But the lawless shall perish, And the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
What happens to the fat when it drips onto the coals in a BBQ?
DEUTERONOMY 4:24 (For the LORD thy God is a consuming fire, even a jealous God.)
20 And the beast was arrested, and with him the false prophet that did the signs before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into the lake of fire burning with brimstone
The Son of Perdition means liable to Die, He's the only one sentenced to DEATH thus far, but many follow him into the lake, whereby they die.
As I see this verse, It says not to be fearful of anyone who can kill our bodies where they do die. But to fear the One who can destroy body and soul in hell. I believe, since kill is not used in to second scenario, that Jesus is talking about eternal destruction, eternal punishment, and eternal condemnation, not the death of our soul. I believe that our soul will live immortally as will our bodies at the resurrection, either in heaven or hell. As far as at death when our bodies are dead, is our soul also dead? I don't think it ceases to exist during this time. What does it do during the time of our mortal death and our resurrection?
I would hope to get some well thought out and well explained replies this. This discussion has been on this site before in recent weeks, but not concerning this verse, as far as I can recall.
I agree with your pastor. Matthew 10:28 says, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell."
That word able is the key. This to me says that God is able to destroy both soul and body in hell, meaning He has the capacity and ability to do so, but no place in scripture supports the idea that He has or will destroy anyone's soul in Hell.
In fact, the bible seems to teach that the soul, when it departs our physical body at death (And death literally means separation), but the soul lives throughout eternity in either Heaven or Hell. Matthew 25:46 is one place that would support the eternal existence of the soul. It says, "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal." There are several other places in scripture that also support the same eternal existence of the soul.
Now if the soul is destroyed in Hell, how could it be everlasting punishment? Some do teach that the soul will be destroyed, meaning that it will cease to exist. They call it annihilation. But the bible does not support that teaching. But I would have to agree with your pastor. As person will either spend eternity with Christ, or they will go off to everlasting (Same as eternity) punishment, completely separated from Christ throughout eternity.
Is there any other place/s in scripture other than Matthew 10:28 that would cause you to believe that the soul is not eternal?
At the end of the previous chapter, Matthew described Jesus as feeling compassion for the people as He looked out over the crowds. Jesus saw that they were harassed and helpless, like sheep without a shepherd. Those are the "lost sheep" Jesus is sending His disciples to reach with the good news of the Messiah and the kingdom of heaven.
In saying this, Jesus was directing the good news to all the people of Israel, not just some. God's plan was that the good news of Jesus would first be preached to Israel and then later to the rest of the nations ( Romans 1:16).
Context Summary
Matthew 10:5-15 contains Jesus' instructions for His twelve apostles, for their missionary trip to the towns of Galilee, in northern Israel. Their mission will be to preach His message that the kingdom of heaven is near, while also healing people and casting out demons. The apostles must not take with them extra money or clothes. Instead, they will stay with those who are worthy in each town they visit. If nobody in a town believes their message, the disciples are to shake the dust of that town from their feet. Jesus will follow these instructions with a series of warnings and encouragements.
I just read up on this by googling "wise as serpents, gentle as doves meaning. The site "Got Questions" has a good write up on this scripture from Jesus. I refer you to that site, which explains it better than I could.
A pigeon: Alert, stays at a distance, flies away easily, sensitive, notices everything, wants a quiet environment, peacefull.
In the kingdom of God for and saved souls, all this can be used for that cause and much more. These are opportunities we can use forever, and be a servant of Jesus Christ. So it is not a small option. This makes me think of all the possibilities. But we must be aware of and end up in the salad once in a while as well. :)
Good luck and here are some words from Jesus Himself:
Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
difference unless I'm reading wrong. God Bless
change devotion to what you consider now important, its not that I hate people who don't know or
don't believe its just that our commitment is to God first and foremost. We cannot serve God and mammon.
They may hate us but we walk in love of God towards them. That is the witness the change that what we
got captivated to at one time means nothing compared to our commitment to Christ. P.S. In addition to
what was already shared. God Bless
I would like to share with you my perspective from a biblical Greek study on this word hate. In Luke 14:26, it says " If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple."
First of all let me tell you what the word hate means. This word is MISEO. It is not the word for hostile or hatred as we know it in English. It is a word of comparison. When MISEO is used with any of the words that have to do with love, it is showing comparison.
In other words, Jesus is saying you must love me so much that the comparison between me and anybody else, or anything else, it makes it look like you hate them. You really don't, but that's what it looks like. It can't even be close!
Jesus is not talking about walking away from our families. He's talking about cutting the emotional ties, not cutting the relationship. We need to understand that. In our society, there's a big play on the social interaction with friends and relatives. Jesus didn't say you couldn't have family. Jesus didn't say that you have to stop your relationship with family members. That is not what He is saying.
He is saying that when it comes to choice and service, and what to do with your life, basically it's a no-brainer. It is Jesus. Family members that don't know Jesus aren't going to understand that. But do you know what they are going to understand? They are going to see and understand that Jesus means more to you than anything or anybody else in the world.
So this is the teaching of Jesus, you must hate. That is, love everybody much less then you love me. It can't even be close. No question about it. You love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself, and that's a Hebraism for you are going to love your neighbor according to how you love the Lord.
members who don't believe and pretty negative towards you because of your belief in Christ. Thar's why he said
mother against daughter father against son and so on. Some personally experience this and some don't. If you
choose to follow Christ and you were hindu they, although you haven't died they literally have a funeral service
for you and will not talk to you again because to them your dead.
So, I believe it means when Jesus was directing HIS first disciple; He knew the dangers they would encounter as they went. Matthew 10:16-18, He knew they needed directions. Matthew 10,
Example : I, by nature can be rather bold, knowing GOD has amazing power in all circumstance. That was before I faced severely dangerous situations for myself & family. When we were in a hostile area, unfamiliar territory overtaken with much crime & lawlessness, the LORD reminded me of these scriptures. It is wise in dangerous, unfamiliar area to be wise, observant, 'out of the spotlight', meek. It kept us safer, yet because we were different it also gave testimony. The scriptures also said "for the testimony against them" .
all sins are forgiven except for blasfem
After he died, and God raised Him from the dead, and He now sits at the right hand of the father- do these rules not apply to "Christians"?
It seems to me that all these rules were for the 12 disciples only, at that point in time.
Not for every "believer" since then, for all time.
Example:
19 But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
20 For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
Is this why "Christians" who are being persecuted keep their mouths shut??
Is this why those "christians" that were beheaded by Islamics kept their mouths shut? Were they waiting for God to speak through them??
People say "bad Christian," while I think no true Christian CAN act badly!