Matthew Chapter 12 Discussion Page 9

In John 16 8 Jesus says that when the Holy Spirit comes He will convict the world concerning sin righteousness and judgment So we know that the Holy Spirit has indeed come therefore the world KNOWS there is sin they know that Jesus is the Righteous One and that they are under judgment yet many deny the truth What can not be forgiven is unbelief No one will stand before God and plead that they did not know I believe the more convicted a person is yet refusing to believe the more they lash out at GOD Christ and all things Christian I don t know if I am right but that is what I think

Re Minister Vern - Yeah after much thought on my part I've come to yhe concluslion that it is Fri Sat Sun that is being spoken of and not 72 hours.
It was your comments which opened my eyes to this viz - part of a day is counted as a day.
Destroy this temple and I will raise it up in 3 days - should therefore be translated as - on the THIRD DAY.

Re Minister Vern - Yeah after much thought on my part I've come to yhe concluslion that it is Fri Sat Sun that is being spoken of and not 72 hours.
It was your comments which opened my eyes to this viz - part of a day is counted as a day.
Destroy this temple and I will raise it up in 3 days - should therefore be translated as - on the THIRD DAY.

Karl Marx, once wrote that, the goal of the Communists was to quote,. “enter into men’s minds and cast God down from his throne.”

Matthew 12:31Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.

In reply to Dave, if you can show me where the Father or the Messiah just do something at random then it might not make any difference to when the resurrection happened. Look at all the prophecies concerning the flood, or Israel going into captivity, or concerning the birth, or the return of the Messiah. I don't believe they just took place at any random point in time, but fall at specific points in time as appointed by the Father or the Son.
Vern, I believe we should go back to the foundation of the statement which is found in Jonah 1:17.
Can someone answer me this, why is it when you celebrate your birthday, anniversary, or a holiday like Christmas, one year its on a Mon. then the next year it will be on a Tues. and continue to change year after year. Why doesn't Easter do the same thing? Shouldn't the same logic apply?

King james is nice.

Whoever does not work for the kingdom of the light is working for the kingdom of darkness.

re pat & dennis Does it really matter which days it happened on? Does that change your beliefs in the resurrection, I would hope not. But the calendar we use today is not the same as the ones used in the time Jesus was in the flesh, the only thing that matters is do you believe with all you heart that it happened, I do, and because he did these things I will live with him in glory for eternity, and so will any one else who truely believes

Re Dennis - Thank you for the information. I can see that you have put a lot of time and thought into this. I know that it is hard for you to hear this, and it is hard for me to tell you - but unfortunately the truth is, I am still left wondering about this matter.

Replying to Pat, in researching this what is the foundation of verse 40? You would have to go back to Jonah 1:17 where it says he was in the belly of the fish 3 days & 3 nights. So if we doubt that Christ & Jonah were in the grave & fish for 3 days & 3 nights, can we also have reason to doubt the creation and that God created everything in 6 days & nights and rested on the seventh, or did it really rain for 40 days & 40 nights at the time of the flood. As for me I believe what the Word of God says.
Next in Ex. 12:3-6 where it talks about the Passover lamb (which I believe represents the Messiah) and that it should be brought in on the 10th day and examined 4 days before it is sacrificed on the 14th day. And as verse 5 states without blemish (just like the Messiah). I relate this with Christ riding into Jerusalem on the donkey in Matt 11:1-11. Would this not be what we know as Psalm Sunday? So my next question is if Christ entered into Jerusalem on Sun. and was examined for 4 days as spoken of in Ex. would not that mean Christ was crucified on Wed. and rose at the end of the Sabbath and not Fri. or else we have to move Psalm Sunday to Tues. for the 4 day examination to work and get a Fri. crucifixion and a Mon resurrection if you apply the 3 day and 3 nights.
I pray Pat that you will research this more and decide one way or the other and be fully convinced in your heart and your mind. God bless.

re my previous comment.
Please don't get me wrong. I am not knocking the Bible etc it is not wrong. I know that it is my understanding of it which is wrong and I would appreciate any help in understanding this point.
Thank you

re Dennis Meyer I find the 3 days and 3 nights confusing and would welcome some research. As far as I can see Fri night and Sat night are two nights - he was up on Sunday morning. Early.

Lord, please guide us so that we do as you wish

If Jesus himself said in verse 40 that he would be in the grave for 3 days & 3 nights, why does the church world not abide by that? And by us not doing so, do we call Christ a liar? Do we need to research this more?

don't understand what is not forgiven. aren't all sins forgiven if you repent and are truly sorry? aren't the father and the son and the holy spirit one in the same?

Accounding to eatting n doing good what the pharies called bad i jst what to asure every born again christain that jesus christ son of God never come to abolish the law but to perfect it so we are free to do anything on sunday coz everything was perfected by christ halleluya

Notice that Jesus doesn't call Mary his sister or his brother, He calls Mary his Mother. Now if the Son of God is speaking as the Son of God and says all these people are of God not because they are related to Him but because they do Gods will. We also see from that that if Jesus had seen Mary as only a 'willing vessel' He would not have specifically called His mother mother, He would have called her a sister. He reserves that title for her and only her.

This verse shows that one can not take a neutral position. There are only 2 sides to take. The choice is still there of which side a person decides to take, but either way the person will have to deal with the consequences of that choice.

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God please forgive our ignorance!

A house divided against itself cannot stand. Wether it be a family or a nation even a religion. The democrats and the republicans are deeply divided. That house will fall. Catholics and Protestants. That house will fall. The Muslim house is divided. Believers and unbelievers. There are are so many divisions in this world because the devil rules by division. However God will bring all into agreement and unity. Conflicts will become a thing of the past. All will be united in the kingdom of God.

Since we have entered into the millennium sabbath all works that we do is out of line. But God himself is coming down to work for the whole thousand years. We worship not the sun. We only worship in spirit and truth which means the power of the spirit is with us.

We re call for evangelism,I believe the first soul to convert is Me,what will emulate people is my culture,either positive or negative.

Praise the Lord he has taken all those ritual days away now we can rest on any day because church is every day with Jesus its not about the what you eat or were, its about the heart condition now its all spiritual and they that worship our Father must worship him in spirit and in truth. When were born again we receive the Holy Spirit into our hearts and now he needs feeding the word so that we can start to live a righteous life so who cares what day we rest so long as its in the word. I pray that who ever reads this has eyes to see ears to hear and a heart to receive. One last thing my theory why we go to churh on Sunday because most people work frim Mondsy yo Saturday and can only come together on Sunday?God Bless

i agree wit ur analisis. Dis is not d first tim d mother nd brethren would be doing dis, even wen JESUS was at d temple teaching as a child dey came 4 HIM so He was already used 2 it. And He kept on reminding dem dat HE must do HIS fathers bussines.

This words just came to me. when everyday I pray and ask God where shall I run. I am tired of pretending and I want to live among my community the truth Christian

what ever you have stored up or held on to in your heart is what is going to come out of you whether it be good or bad in word or deed. You need to love so that love will be in your heart and come out of you. God bless you.

When I was a teenager I committed a sin for which I've since repented and asked forgiveness for; a sin for which I've always wondered and feared may not have been forgiven. I find comfort in verse 31, and my mind and heart have been put to ease. I weep tears of joy as I type this. I thank the Lord Jesus Christ for leading me to this verse.

It says that the 7th day of the week, Saturday, is the Lord's Day; not Sunday which is the first day of the week. People err in referring to Sunday as the Lord's Day. It is not biblical. Also, there is no biblical evidence that the Sabbath was ever "transferred" to the first day of the week.

@JAY ,
Please do a little research if you will; in those days, a day consisted of only 12 hours. Also refer back to old Jewish calendar.