Matthew Chapter 17 Discussion Page 2

Why did the Holy Spirit stop Paul from going east when he was about to depart and forbid him from taking the message of Christ to them as he was doing elsewhere. As Jesus wanted His words taken to every human being,,this begs my question.

I'm sure they were terrified!

I need to see Matthew 17:17 in various Bible Translations, e.g., KJV, NIV, ESV, etc.?

In need of your sermon always.

That's a great point...I know I sure could use a lengthy media fast. Thanks for the reply.

Sometimes fasting means turning off all of the media. Read scripture. Just sit and wait on the Lords response. I got rid of cable years ago because of the noise, aggravation and cost. I enjoy the quiet.

The opposite of Faith is unbelief. Unbelief dishonors God and blocks his ability to respond to our prayers and our requests for him to act on our behalf. Here, Jesus is telling his disciples their problem was unbelief and the need for much more prayer and fasting. Obviously, Christ is suggesting to them and us as well that, further prayer and fasting is what removes the unbelief that stagnates and blocks the Lords ability to respond to our requests. A "little" faith is all that the Lord needs to respond to our prayers but "unbelief" that the Lord will actually do what we are requesting thwarts the whole process. This verse tells me that the enemies of Christ are well versed in the spiritual laws and implications of shallow faith and ineffective prayers. They are under the authority of Christ and not the authority of man and will respond accordingly. It also tells me that I need to be ever closer to my heavenly Father in prayer and fasting if I'm to have any chance of waging battle in the spiritual arena.

Matthew 17 v 5

Another witness of God the father of Who Jesus is , His Son .

So is Jesus God the son ? Never mention in scriptures, not even by Jesus or God himself .

Jesus called God father , and God says by Witness that Jesus is his Son . This is the record do you believe Gods witness ? Or men's doctrines on who Jesus is ?

For me it's a closed case .

Jesus is the Son of God .

No. But a good thought. I don't know who did it but I think it is a good thing to do.

Maybe Jesus words were written in RED is because of the blood that was shed for all us sinners and GODS isn't is because he is invisible

Jesus's blood is so Holy that no demon EVER opposed Him during His ministry. They left at a high rate of speed or asked to go into some pigs which promptly ran off the side of a cliff and died.

The subjects here are: spiritual warfare and the Authority of the Believers in Jesus, that are born again, Holy Spirit Baptized and protected through the shed Blood of Jesus.

Gospels show that when Satan tempted Jesus (after he had fasted 40 days), he first tempted Jesus with food.

Jesus countered Satan with the SCRIPTURES.

In the Lords Prayer, one verse says: "deliver us from evil." In Greek I think it translates as: deliver us from the evil.

Jesus has given us every means, including the Armor, in Ephesians 6; to scatter demons off ourselves, and others. Your prayers can be launched from one hemisphere to the other. We all have a personal responsibility to get in scripture and build up our ARSENAL against the Devil.

If you don't know what Authority of the Believer is, then listen to some Charles Capps videos on YouTube.

Be careful what is in your house, or what other house members bring into it. For example: if your teenager has a pentagram on the wall and blares "Tool" music through the walls. That's Satan taking advantage of you through someone you love. You have a right as owner of the home to remove offensive things. Be sweet but Tell the kid they can decorate THEIR apartment when they move out; and use headphones or you'll confiscate their tunes too. They'll be mad a while, but they like eating more. Be strong but be Christ-like when you interact.

Go in there and pray scripture when they go out with their friends. Sing some gospel songs. Ask the Lord to dispatch an angel to keep everything evil out of the house. Evil is invisible, but total chaos from a kid is a sign that a "doorway" is open somewhere. You will know what to do. Hug often.

Pass this info on to other struggling parents!

Read Acts 19:19. Mishael

What do they mean when someone says they plead the blood of Jesus or they cover something or someone with the blood.

I thought that Jesus blood was shed for sins only. The lamb of God that came to take away the sins of the world

"21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting." This kind of unbelief ... Does not go out but by prayer and fasting.

The words of Jesus, not God the father, are presented in red. This is a common to help readers know more easily which quotes are Jesus speaking. You can also read the KJV without it if you don't prefer red, or it will appear different shades depending on your device or monitor settings.

The writers of the bible only put Jesus words in red text, not Gods.

if you be willing to read on in Matthew 7,8,9 you will see that the LOrd instruct them not to tell the VISION to no-one So jesus also touched them to wake them up and said do not be afraid... it was a vision not the presence...

3 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him. How can Moses and Elias which was dead be talking to Jesus? They were resurrected and brought down from heaven for this purpose.

He had to do it in order to fulfill all righteousness, you know every jot, and tittle.

The red text was added by the writers that translated the bible so that we know when Jesus is speaking. not God or the angels that also speak to us . I don't think it was wrong that the writers did it. They didn't change any words.

I agree with your point. There are many instances where God spoke and the words are not in red. Take for instance the Genesis account where God spoke words which were so powerful that they created things, yet, none of those words was highlighted. Please remember that the bible was compiled by humans who have their individual interpretations and preferences.

It's common to have Jesus' words in red among many Bibles throughout the world. To make an assumption that any quote not in red is somehow less important is a false conclusion. All the words of the Bible are important.

notice how jesus words are in red, but not the text of the voice in the clouds "this is my son in whom I am well pleased..." my inner voice is telling me that maybe it's not that important..probably more like "coffee talk"

ch. 17: Clearly the disciples still did not recognize Jesus as Messiah. Neither did they understand that he had to press on to Jerusalem and suffer and die so that he could rise again. Their unbelief hindered their ability to do the "works" and regarding the tribute money, Peter wanted to answer correctly, to the collectors, but Jesus showed him the way tho they didn't have to pay!

25 He saith, Yes, and when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him, saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers? (I get it,I get it, this earth is not my home, so I am a stranger in a foreign-land, thereby I must pay them taxes.)

Verse 5~Jehovah God made it known that he expects us to listen to his son. We can listen to Jesus by examining his teachings in the Bible and then working hard to apply them.

The complexities of the words help the masses to know the Lord's will. I think it's the best way of speaking out on God's grace. And these words are life if they are applied in a forthright fashion. The grace, mercy,peace and benevolence of our Lord and saviour be with you all. So I end with may God bless you keep you make his shine upon you and give his peace. And the Lord remains sovereign king.

7 And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. (once again we are reminded of another deadly-enemy named fear; this 'fear' is a professional in rendering us ineffective in the work of Jehovah /GOD and our personal daily tasks;

7:And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. (be not afraid is brought to our attention many, many, times in the bible by Jehovah / GOD because being in a state of fear causes us to be very ineffective each day of life plus release unbelief into our life, causing us to ineffective to/for our self and the work of GOD.

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Notwithstanding, lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them for me and thee.
I like to fish. Every time I catch a fish I look into his mouth to see if theres any coins in there. Maybe one day they will be.

No way to Make it up to God, ever. The Only Way to be Right with Him is to be Cleansed by The Blood of The Lamb blood. When The Father Calls Ask Forgiveness. John6:44 /The Lamb Will Wash Us in His Blood. Revelation1:5 /He will Baptize You with The Holy Ghost. Mark 1:8 / If Any Man be in Christ, He is a New Creature--- All Things Will Become New. 2Corinthians 5:17 / You will Know, Impossible not to