Matthew Chapter 3 Discussion Page 11

Sorry, part of the text was missing in my previous letter; Please, reply me on this one;

I'm not native in English language, but still have a great desire to be able to understand each word, that belongs to Jesus Christ;
My question would be:
1 Corinthians 4:12 sentence ends like that ,,being persecuted, we suffer it"
In this case, ,,suffer it" means - "to bear" right?

I know, that "suffer" also means - "allow someone to do something" but, I think, "bear it to be so now" might be proper, also.

Please, help me understand. .

I'm not native in English language, but still have a great desire to be able to understand each word, that belongs to Jesus Christ;
My question would be:
1 Corinthians 4:12 sentence ends like that ,,being persecuted, we suffer it"
In this case, suffer it means - to bear right?

I know, that also means - but, I think, might be proper, also.

Please, help me understand. .

...repentance first then baptism sign of obedience to God's command

The problem is, each gospel that mentions this says all. Peter tells them in Acts 2 repent and be baptized everyone of you for the remission of sins, this salvation that is being required is a national salvation for Israel, that would have facilitated the immediate step into the tribulation period, and finally Jesus the Messiahs return to Israel as king. See Mark 1:5, and Acts 2:38, We cannot pass over Matthew 10:23; But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come. vs 22 sets post ascension period.

@Erika,
I can see how the Word of God can be a little confusing sometimes. That's why we must study. God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit are one. John 1:1: "In the beginning was the Word, (meaning Jesus), and the Word was with God (Jesus was with God in the beginning), and the Word was God (meaning Jesus is God). How do we know that the Word we are referencing is Jesus; one might ask. Let's look at John 1:14, "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth. We can say that Jesus is the fleshly part of God. There's so much to this, so you will have to read and grasp the full meaning of His word. Also Jesus is at the Father's right hand in heaven. Sorry I can't expound more because I too must study. I hope this helps.

John was a famous teacher of his day, an ascetic monk who people wondered if he is the one who should come to save Israel. But he deferred to his cousin, Jesus, whom he knew as a child growing up. Then Jesus began his career along the coasts of Zabulon and Naphtali saying, "Repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. I believe that this is your born again moment. To learn what repentance looks like, read Psalms 51.

The first example in the gospels where God tells us directly that he and his son are NOT the same person! Not only does he say that Jesus is his "dearly loved" son, but we hear this from a voice from heaven. Jesus is not up there anymore, so who is that supposed to be!

Remember that the baptism of John the Baptist is a baptism of introduction of the lord Jesus Christ as he is about to fulfill all righteousness as prophet, priest, and king. It was the custom of the Jews to baptize in coming kings and for the father of the king to state this is my son who I am well pleased.

Verse 12: Whose fan is in his hand,.. The fan is the word of GOD BECAUSE IT DISCERNS THE THOUGHTS AND INTENTS OF MEN ( HEBREWS 4:2)AND JUDGES MEN'S EVIL WAYS ( Revelation 20:13). ...PURGE HIS FLOOR, -THE FLOOR IS THE EARTH AND ALL ITS CREATION, IN THIS CASE THE HUMAN BEINGS. IF THE FLOOR MENTIONED HERE IS THE CHURCH, THEN WHAT ABOUT UNBELIEVERS, SINCE THEY ARE GOING TO BE JUDGED TOO AND THEY ARE NOT PART OF THE CHURCH? THE WHEAT IS THE CHRISTIANS AND THE CHAFF STANDS FOR UNBELIVERS ( ROMANS 10:16). THE GARNER IS HEAVEN AND THE UNQUENCHABLE FIRE IS THE LAKE OF FIRE MADE FOR SATAN.

I thank God for verse 11 that says I indeed baptize you with water unto repentant but he that cometh after me is mightier than I whose shoes I am not worthy to bear, he shall baptize you with the holy ghost and fire. There is big difference between water and holy ghost and fire, and John knew it, that’s why he was so hungry for that of baptism of Jesus.

John was a humble man that did not think so highly of him self. Even though he baptized others. But when ask by Jesus he did not think he was worthy enough to baptize him. But he let us know that there was one that cometh after him that would baptize you not with water but with the Holy Ghost and it would cleanes you from all your sins. Also when Jesus came to John to be baptized, he to did not think so highly of him self that he could not be baptized by John. Instead he let him know you are the one I choose to baptize me.

John the Baptist; what a marvellous example of a witness for God to lay a straight path for Jesus
Christ. To choose John as a prime example to preach,teach, and to spread the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ. Then Jesus being baptized and fulling scripture was the on the cake and sealed the deal. As Esaias prophecy in Is40:3; if you would read verses 4,5. it is a similitude of what
you heart goes through. Every valley shall be exalted, and mountain be made low: what seems impossible for you God will help you. AS the bible reads in Matt6:33 Seek first the God and his kingdon and all these thing you pray for according his will it shall be done. We must seek God every day to guide you. As read in Rom5:14,20
nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses. But
not as the offense,so also is the free gift. The gift of life eternal through Jesus Christ washes us from our sins. As read in Is4:4 when the Lord shall have washed away the filth of the daughters of Zion. If you allow Jesus to work his miracles. The results of it will be tremendous. As it reads in Matt3:17 The Lord will be well pleased in you.

by reading mathew chapter three i realized that God plan for salvation had to fulfiled and we too has to repent our sins so that we can stand a chance to be called God's children

Thank you for your words of Wisdom. I believe we have a natural body and that "i" am my soul. I allow my soul to be cloathed with one of two spirits, the spirit of God or the other spirit. At any time in my life i am therefore serving one of the two spirits in everything that i do. However baptising with water (The word) is not as good as a righteouss deed, and the deed done within the body of Christ (The Church) is what i need to do in the hope of salvation. (Show deeds worthy of repentance - we are not already saved and can therefore live as we want - we need to work for others. God the Father = The Word, Jesus Christ = GOD the Father, GOD the son, GOD the holy ghost. (Ice water and steam all have the chemical formula H20) God The Father = The creator who brings "light" understanding,God the Son = when that word is put into a deed, and God the Holy Ghost the attitude, victory that is the result of the two ie Love, giving someone a present makes you feel Good we therefore say we are in good spirits.Thank you and may God Bless you.

Matthew 3:5 Then went out to him Jerusalem, and all Judaea, and all the region round about Jordan,
3:6 And were baptized of him in Jordan, confessing their sins.
QUESTION: What makes all Jews from Judaea and its environment to go to John to confess their sins and to baptize. I must notice that those people were already baptized and most of them lived according to the law. In what trouble they were. Thank you in advance and GOD BLESS YOU.

I wonder what the "righteous law of God" means. I am going to study that scripture more.

Mt 40.3 "For this is he that was spoken of by the prophet Esaias, saying, The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
Matthew 3:1-4 Is speaking about John the Baptist, and it is calling the prophecy by the reference on Is 40:3
In the Bible I am reading the verse from the Gospel is identical but Is 40:3 goes like this:"The voice of the one crying: in the desert prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight."
As you can see the notch is before "in the desert" and not after. This little thing makes a total difference in the meaning of the picture one can get of Joh the Baptist, and confuse the careful reader.
For the record just because of this I made some research, and discovered that text from the Bible I am reading is right.
I know the people who read the bible their whole life (the same Bible as I do) and this means nothing to them. When I read it for the first time I was confused because I saw the disagreement between the verse from the Gospel and its reference from Isaiah.
If somebody judges me for this I forgive him.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL
P.S. MIKE if you are reading this you can see how I function and what struggle I fight with myself.

"And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him, And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased." ( Matthew 3:16-17) Here we see God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit; three, and yet, one God.

Everything on this Earth is not by the will of God, though God have mercy to take care of every cell being created on this planet, yet..God have to decide in the judgment time those true in Him will lay upin Heavens.

In verse 11, I see it happening this way: John looks to the people waiting to be baptized and says,"He shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost", then looks angrily at the Pharisees and Sadducees gathered to find fault with what John was doing and to them shouts, "and with FIRE!". Going to the lake of fire in Hell is a baptism of fire indeed! The baptism of fire was the self-chosen destiny of those who did NOT accept Jesus.

God, Jesus and holy spirit are one, just how we are as well. for example my body, my spirit and my soul. Three in one.

JESUS SAID I AM THE WAY THE TRUTH AND THE LIFE. AT THE TIME WHEN JESUS CAME DOWN TO EARTH IT WAS ONLY THE TIME WHEN THE GOSPEL OF GOD UNTO SALVATION WAS TAUGHT. THROUGH JESUS SALVATION WAS MADE SIMPLIER UNLIKE TO THOSE INTRODUCED BY BRILLIANT AND HIGHLY EDUCATED PASTORS MAY BE NOT ALL MINISTERS PRIESTS AND BIBLE SCHOOLARS WHICH THEY OBVIOUSLY STUDED EXACTLY THE SAME BIBLE YET THEY DO NOT AGREE INTO ONE UNDERSTANDING BUT INSTEAD GRAMBLING IDEAS AND INTERPRETATIONS WAS MET UNTIL DEBATES AND COMPLICATIONS IS NOW AT HAND. SO MANY RELIGIONS EMERGING AND STILL GROWING IN NUMBERS. AND EACH CLAIM THAT ITS NOT IN RELIGION THAT WE CAN BE SAVED. ITS VERY CONFUSING. SOME WERE PERSUADED BY POPULARITY SOME IN HUGE NUMBERS SOME BY GROUPS OF RICH PEOPLE IN CONTRAST TO TO WHAT THE LORD JESUS CHRIST DID. ARE WE NOT DECEIVED? KNOWING GOD ITSELF SEEMINGLY SO VERY CLOUDY. ARE WE NOT DECEIVED AS WHAT THE BIBLE TELLS US ???

It is truly pointless to argue the personhood of God, because He is beyond human comprehension. Why is there God the Father, Jesus the Son and the Holy Spirit, three unique personhoods of God? Don't know. That is a "wait and see question". There are some things that we will not know here. But the personhood of the Trinity is plainly shown throughout the Bible, God has three distint parts just as mas has a body, soul and spirit.

Doris lenda and, The Trinity was made up by the Catholi Church in the 4th century along with the other laws like Christmas which was orginally a festival and is NOT the day Jesus was born. The Trinity is NOT the same person yet three DIFFERNENT people, there is GOD the FATHER, Jesus the SON, AND the HOLY SPIRIT. The Trinity is a PEGAN BELIEF. Constantine, the founder of the Catholic Church, was a Mithra (the sun God) worshiper before he "converted" to christianity.

DORIS, I LOVEYOUR COMMENT. THE TRINTY IS PROVEN ALL THROUGH OUT THE BIBLE. THIS IS A GRREAT EXAMPLE GOD BLESS YOU ALL AND MARRY CHRIST MAS

When Jesus (God in the flesh) came straight up out of the water after being immersed by John the baptist...we see the holy spirit in a symbol of a dove lighting on him, the voice comes out of heaven saying this is my beloved SON in whom I AM well pleased. The three the trinity in 1.

Notice how when John is talking to these kenites the generation of the serpent off spring,vipers, he tells them in so many words that if they repent they to, even they can be saved if they repent and turned to God and then he speaks of cutting down the tree, yea, the tree of good and evil that old serpent the devil. He is telling them a lot if they would only listen. G

God watches them that love Him. Keeps track, I think we could say. Always read His letter to us and talk with Him just as we talk with our parents,with love and respect. Reach deep inside yourself with the Word and realize He is with you and bring your level of faith up with everything you do or happens. Plan your day, everyday with Him, what your going to do and who you will see and if they have anything to do with your plan always asked Father for His will to be done and explain to Him what your trying to do and to touch the minds of them that will be making discession to help you on your way. Everyday when you wake ask Him for His protection and for an angel to be with you. He created our emotions and they are just like His. No matter what anyone says about the word of God it was protected by Him and is exactly How He wanted it to get to you. When you reach the fullness of the WORD you will understand. Will we ever know the complete fullness? But them that love the LORD, He shows Himself. You will know the LORD is GOD and no one will ever make you believe different. And this is His Letter to us. G

I don't see lightning I see lighting upon him showing that God Is bestowing his spirit upon him as he is pleased at his obedience even though he is without sin

Ruth, A comment on things she has missed in the Bible in the past. You are not alone in this comment. I have,as we all do, have missed things before. I believe that The LORD shows us things when we need them most. If we don't read The BIBLE, HE can't show us can he?