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We are supposed to be examples of Christ, and letting the Light shine through us,because people are watching our actions in our everyday living.

Verse 10 let not the wife depart from the husband COMMAND of the Lord .

Verse 11 remains unmarried or reconciled to the husband .

Verse 15 if the unbeliever depart let them depart , brother or sister is not under bondage in such cases ...

What is the bondage in such cases ?

Impossible to be the marriage law , so it is the COMMAND of the Lord verses 10 and 11

If you say it's the marriage law , why do we even have laws ?

You can not break the laws with out sinning . So it's the Lords command to stay together , you can not force the unbelievers to obey the Lords commands . But you must remain single or break the law and become adulterous.

God bless you sister Rachel

It is a harsh thing to go through, but the truth is the truth. As long as your husband lives you can not marry again. If you do that, you will be living as an adulterous woman.

It is not nice to have to write about it. It is not nice to have to think about it. It is not nice to have to accept it. But it is the truth.

We are freed from sin, but still responsible. If you as a Christian steal something, you have to go and give it back. If you as a Christian have a living partner, you cannot marry someone else.

Peace & Love in Christ

yes you can remarry.

If the unbelieving depart, let them depart.

That was a mighty testimony to read, Marisa. I can see that in spite of the fall out of your failed marriage & your rebellion against the Lord, your turning back to Him in great conviction & resolve to follow Him & remain obedient to His Word, is what is uppermost in your heart & the joy of your spirit.

The Lord will bless you & strengthen your spirit & be the Companion you need as you walk hand-in-hand with Him in your earthly journey. Never look back but look forward to the delights that await you from the Throne of God & that you are His cherished possession & made truly fit for the Master's use, anywhere & at anytime. Keep looking "unto Him alone, Who is the Author & Perfecter of your faith".

In today's world things can be very confusing the world says one thing but God's word is unchanging its the same yesterday today and tomorrow and he gave us his word to bring us into a place of truth and understanding for all scripture is useful for teaching training and admonishing in righteousness he does not give us a spirit of confusion but of power love and a sound mind. We need to stay close to his WORD and he'll reveal his truth to our very specific individual circumstances.Do not follow after the pattern of this world. Remember Satan's position is, he is a liar and a thief and he has come to steal and destroy. Remember you have a real enemy out there, and it is not your spouse, because it's not against flesh and blood that we fight.

My own personal testimony , I walked in rebellion for 10 years I separated from my husband legally but I lived the lifestyle that was completely about everything that was about this world. I was in complete rebellion against God and his word and his ways. I came to the end of myself I was like the prodigal son. I had to come to the end of myself I thank God ,my Lord that he brought me to the end of myself With a lot of pain a lot of rejection a lot of separation from people that I loved.

The word of the Lord says confess your sins to one another, as you can approach the throne of God freely without judgement. And so I did just that, I was a very broken woman.

For God will not always hide himself from us or hold his anger against us as we deserve.

He is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins. After 10 years I searched my heart and found myself not having any affections for my husband. So instead we stayed friends. And I made my choice to remain single. Not divorcing because God hates devorce. And I keep myself to do Gods work and not look to the flesh. It was very hard at first because of loneliness but The Lord has given me the strength. And although I feel temptations, his Spirit has kept me strong.

Galatians 5 . 14 - 21



If we are led by the Spirit we are not under the law verse 18

If we are doing the works of the flesh verses 19 , 20, 21

The grace of God is a free gift given , not our works of any kind even if they fulfill the law like the rich young ruler that refused to follow Jesus .

You can not earn grace it's a gift . But Grace never breaks the laws . We cannot do as we please . If we are led by the spirit of God we do no sin .

Breaking of the law is sin .

As men we can sin by being led into error , or temptation and there is forgiveness, to be found Jesus is now in heaven and is faithful to foregive us our sins if we confess them !

Some may say we don't live by the law but by grace , that's partly true .

Romsns 8 .2

The law of the spirit ....

The spirit of God NEVER breaks the laws , but rather fulfills them or goes above them , but never contrary to them by doing what they forbid .

God said He would put His spirit within us so we could keep the laws , the flesh is weak and cannot keep the laws in general .

If someone advises you you are free to remarry, they have no understanding of what law is , laws can not be broken , without being a law breaker and guilty of and deserving the consequences.

A person that brakes a law can be forgiven in true repentance. But they can not continue in the sin because they are forgiven, that's just crazy , but some people's understanding of law is crazy too .

If he is not a Christian (and his fruit as a child of God stinks);

You are free to remarry.

The marriage chapters.

1 Corinthians 7, Matthew 5

Stay faithful , you have done it so far , don't give in to temptation.

Only death frees a person from a marriage, read Romans ch 7 .

There is so much misinformation on divorces theses days .

God will judge adulterers.

I met a couple years ago they both where married previous and decided to marry again and started a new marriage that they regretted later .

They felt they rushed into it and had bad counsel . They broke up the second marriage confessing the sin of it .

my husband divorced me and got married to once of the women he slept with. Can i remarry? i never cheated on him. he divorced me 13 years ago and till this day i never remarried.

1 John 5:14-16: "And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us. And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him. If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it."

Not knowing the details of what you've shared, if it is at all possible to talk with that person about his lifestyle in light of what God requires of us. The fact that he has asked for prayer indicates a God-consciousness or a desperation for some answer or relief. So I would think that he would be open to listening to you about what sin is & how he must not continue in it.

If he is convicted by God's Word & desires to seek the Lord, you have a great opportunity to pray with him & for him. If he's not interested & just asking for prayer, I would tell him that I will pray but will also ask God to first speak to his heart in respect of his lifestyle as well as his need. The important thing here is that a right relationship to God is first needed. If he wants to have sin & also God's help with his matter, then you need to sense in your spirit whether such a prayer is appropriate.

As the Scripture says: God hears our prayers if we ask according to His Will - I believe the pressing prayer you could offer is for God's Spirit to convict him of his sin & lifestyle. You can tell him that you'll pray, if you feel you ought to, but that his heart's condition & lifestyle are more important than his other needs.

Alexander, I'm unsure what aspect(s) of Psalm 99:6-9 you are wanting discussion on, but will write on a couple of verses.

Verse 7: God spoke to the children of Israel while on their journey out of Egypt into the land of Canaan in many ways & specifically the verse mentions "in the cloudy pillar". This 'cloudy pillar' of course was the means that God used to guide Israel on their journey in the daytime (the pillar of fire at night). But when Israel stopped to camp, the pillar remained at the Tabernacle door ( Exodus 33:10). This then is the reference made in the Psalm that "God spake to them in the cloudy pillar" as God communicated His Word to Moses & Aaron via the cloudy pillar that stood there.

Verse 8: The word, "Them" refers is to the children of Israel, not to Moses & Aaron (though Aaron & Miriam were also guilty, with Miriam turning leprous). The Psalmist says that God was a God who forgave them (their sins), but also a God Who took vengeance on their inventions. The Hebrew word for 'inventions' speaks of the 'deeds' of Israel during their march, particularly their evil deeds & shameful actions. We know how they wanted a molten calf to represent God ( Ex 32:4), their complaints about food & water, no meat when God gave them manna, against Moses, etc. And God was displeased with them for their complaining & obstinacy (read Psalm 78 to get a fuller picture of these events).

Discussion on PSALMS chapter 99 verses 6 to 9

I agree. Self-control and self-discipline are being taught against in some denominations.

Actually grace doesn't prevent you from sinning, but God's grace may forgive you for your sins you choose to commit. It's your own choice whether you sin or not. Your own choice whether you choose good or evil. God doesn't force you to be one or the other. God will never allow you to be tempted beyond what you can bear. God has not taken away anyone's freewill whether Christian or not. People often pretend like they have no self control and make up excuses to justify sins they enjoy. Jesus commanded us to sin no more so we should not. Even satan an angel had freewill to sin in heaven and will suffer the consequences.

You have voiced legitimate concerns, yet the law cannot keep us from sinning; the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ is necessary for that.

Jesus fulfilled the law and Christians who follow Jesus are subject to grace. Those who don't follow Jesus or are lukewarm and only trying to pretend to be a Christian to abuse grace to enjoy committing sin will not be saved and should be afraid of going to hell, in my opinion. Jesus did not abolish the law and if people love Jesus then they are to try hard to avoid sin. God hates sin. Just because someone has grace does not mean a Christian should enjoy committing evil and not worry about avoiding sin. Look at Paul's struggle. Look at Jesus's many many teachings to Christians to avoid sin. Some people are spreading lies claiming sin doesn't even exist. Some are saying its even ok for Christians to kill, commit adultery, fornication, blaphemy, lust, and all kinds of evil, with intention to enjoy it, and no intention to avoid it. The Bible already said that's untrue and sin the the devils temptations and lies we need to put our armor and stay strong to avoid. Romans 6:1. John 14:15

Jesus fulfilled the law in his sinless life and obedience unto his sacrificial death on the cross as substitute for sinners, being then raised from the dead for our justification:

Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous. ( Romans 5:18-19)

I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain. ( Galatians 2:21)

For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace. ( Romans 6:14)

Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God. For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death. But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter. ( Romans 7:4-6)

Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the law? For it is written, that Abraham had two sons, the one by a bondmaid, the other by a freewoman. But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an allegory: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar. For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all. ( Galatians 4:21-26)

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. ( Galatians 5:1)

Also, please read Romans 8.

Sister Kathryn,

Happy Sabbath!

Yes, I believe with all my heart we are to keep God's 10 commandments.

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

1 John 2:4

"He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him."

Revelation 22:14

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

God Bless.

Love the way God uses nature to exalt Himself. I have always liked it when the teacher uses examples when they teach! How interesting , you explain a good example of being born again, only without the womb of a Mother. This time being buried in Christs death and risen again through the baptism of His life! A true metamorphosis, converting spiritual death into eternal life found in Christ!

Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.

2By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.

3For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

4For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.

5Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?

6This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.

7For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.

8And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

9If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

10He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

11And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

13These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.

14And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:

15And if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

16If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin no

17Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

A. What law is he referring to ? I have always supposed he meant the Mosaic Law - the commandments God gave directly to Moses for the Isreal People. Am I wrong?

B. He clearly states that " until heaven and earth pass, not one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the LAW, till all be fullfilled. Therefore I am to believe that the law will stand as given until the earth and heavens are destroyed. So the idea that we are no longer bound by the LAW because Jesus death and resurrection fullfilled those requirements falls short because heaven and earth are still here. We are still required to keep the LAW, yes?

C. " who ever shall break the least of the commandments ..." If we are referring only to the 10 Commandments...which would be the least? If the Mosaic Law commandments...no doubt there would be a least among them, given their broad range and scope, unlike the 10 commandments each of which seems mighty in it's own right. None taking the place of " least."

So, my question is - what does Jesus mean when he speaks of coming to fullfill the law, that the law will not pass until heaven and earth pass and that there is among the laws some that are less important than others? Given the 10 commandments don't seem to offer a " least " commandment, I'm leaning toward accepting the LAW to which he refers is the Mosaic Law and that even now, despite Jesus fullfilling the LAW and the PROPHETS, we are to keep the law as we practice our Christian faith until heaven and earth pass away.

There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

2For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.

3For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

4That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.

5For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.

6For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.

7Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.

8So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

9But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

10And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.

11But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

12Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh.

13For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live.

14For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:

17And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glo

Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met him: but Mary sat still in the house.

21Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had not died.

22But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will give it thee.

23Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

24Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

25Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

Then cometh he to a city of Samaria, which is called Sychar, near to the parcel of ground that Jacob gave to his son Joseph.

6Now Jacob's well was there. Jesus therefore, being wearied with his journey, sat thus on the well: and it was about the sixth hour.

7There cometh a woman of Samaria to draw water: Jesus saith unto her, Give me to drink.

8(For his disciples were gone away unto the city to buy meat.)

9Then saith the woman of Samaria unto him, How is it that thou, being a Jew, askest drink of me, which am a woman of Samaria? for the Jews have no dealings with the Samaritans.

10Jesus answered and said unto her, If thou knewest the gift of God, and who it is that saith to thee, Give me to drink; thou wouldest have asked of him, and he would have given thee living water.

11The woman saith unto him, Sir, thou hast nothing to draw with, and the well is deep: from whence then hast thou that living water?

12Art thou greater than our father Jacob, which gave us the well, and drank thereof himself, and his children, and his cattle?

13Jesus answered and said unto her, Whosoever drinketh of this water shall thirst again:

14But whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall be in him a well of water springing up into everlasting life.