Matthew Chapter 7 Discussion Page 3

As with my brothers Spencer and Chris I am confused with your post.

Writing "He that says he loves Christ, yet says he shall die a bodily death, he IS a hypocrite, a liar, a devil, a serpent, a viper, a deceiver and an antichrist." Bodily meaning something to do with, or concerning, the "body". Our physical body. Our physical body is temporal. Unless something like a "rapture" happens at some time, for some people, along with the only two people in history ever to be known of that did not experience physical death. Everyone is going to "die" physically. As in Ecclesiastes:

7:1 A good name is better than precious ointment; and the day of death than the day of one's birth.

12:7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.

Please explain your definition of "bodily". Thank you.

Do you feel comfortable addressing yourself Holyspirit and state something so contuary to scripture? That's scary!!!

PLEASE Explain your comment, this is very confusing

You write: "IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH". What are you suggesting here? That we don't die physically? Or do you mean something else? Isn't bodily death a result of sin, rather than the cause of it? Your thoughts are perplexing.

IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH. For Jesus Christ IS come in his own flesh (with GOD, having made the whole world to know that Jesus Christ IS come in the flesh, even raised from the dead.) So, IT IS SINFUL TO DIE A BODILY DEATH. He that says he loves Christ, yet says he shall die a bodily death, he IS a hypocrite, a liar, a devil, a serpent, a viper, a deceiver and an antichrist. Any (who are not of the few remaining souls of Israel, being eight,) saying he or she must die a bodily death, IS as the chaff AFTER the harvest, yea, clouds without water; scribes and Pharisees foaming out THEIR OWN shame which is all unrighteousness, without faith, BEING DEAD, walking in darkness while speaking corruption. For VERILY I say unto YOU: IT IS WRITTEN IN THE HOLY SCRIPTURES, and SPOKEN, of GOD: Follow me; and let THE DEAD BURY THEIR DEAD. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him SHOULD NOT PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE. This is the will of him that sent me, that every one which sees the Son, and BELIEVES on him, may have EVERLASTING LIFE: and I will raise him up at the last day. GOD IS not the GOD of the dead, but of the LIVING. For the living know that they (they, being interpreted, are the wicked, being dead while preaching death,) shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. Except those days should be shortened, there should no FLESH be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened. THIS mortal MUST put on immortality. Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leads to destruction, and MANY THERE BE which go in thereat: Because strait IS the gate, and narrow IS the way, which leads unto life, and FEW there BE that find it.

I'm just a bible reader I love it everyday and wont and will live the nairew gate

Matt 7:21-29

Keep in mind that God only cares about what's truly and sincerely in our hearts. He doesn't care about what words we say. There is no "magic phrase". We can say "Lord Jesus, Lord Jesus" all day long - If we don't believe in our heart, God doesn't care about it. He doesn't hear it.

Today status and serving seems to be the biggest focus amongst most church goers, now before we proceed, i go to church and love it, and i serve. but so do people in cult religions, we tend to try to teach discipleship, disciple means to follow some ones teachings, we are supposed to follow Jesus teachings, you cant do that with out the holy spirit which equipts us with the fruit of the spirit. Jesus apostles commanded to go out and preach to the world but to WAIT on the HOLY SPIRIT! we are identified as his disciples by the love we show one another read john 13:34-35. study all of john ch 13, you see the washing of the, you see a lesson in restoring and humility. the Jews religion was services which was a outwardly action, Christ in you is an inwardly action reflecting outwardly, look what Jesus tells the Pharisees in Mathews 23:25-26.. Woe unto you Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. today we compromise the truth, neglect the spirit, separate ourselves by pride, try to grow the church in volume apart from the gathering of the Holyspirit. the opposite of the way the church started in Acts 2:46-47. Lets pray we LOVE ONEANOTHER.

The love of many shall wax cold. and to suffer so many worldly traits to creep in the church, like pride, hautyness, no love for the brothern. taking on the world affairs and draging them in to the church. loving the nation more than the brothern. we supposed to be a light for the world not its ally.

For those interested in how all the animals were brought to the region of the Ark:

You can study the weighty subject/science of Continental Drift theory or Pangea. See the maps, etc.

Or like me you can simply have faith that when the Godhead speaks; necessary changes happen.

My evangelist heart always wonders what does this have to do with us being born again into Jesus Christ?

Not only are we going with Jesus to heaven, but we now have The Mind of Christ: to understand mysteries of heaven and earth.

BUT first we must be born again and receive the Holy Spirits Baptism. He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ: the Word of God. He Teaches Us about Jesus; He opens up the mysteries as we are able to receive it. The more you know about Him, the more you will be able to understand His purpose and His work in the Believers.

Our total reliance on Him, determines how much Rhema he opens up to us.

We have to submit to being milk fed babies in the Word as our Faith and Obedience to the Word causes a deep inner hunger for the MEAT of the Word. God uses "food" to grow us up. We are to be Followers of Jesus in our walk with God.

The Holy Spirits ministry is to oversee our growth as Christians. HE IS OUR TEACHER.

You're going to have to talk to Him, and then listen for his reply. If your home life is noisy and filled with interferences, your ability to hear the Holy Spirit is diminished. You have to work that part out.

Eating the Meat of the Word will change you! It is full of wonder. Your spirit is enlarged to receive more. Desire the pure milk, but study and let your prayer life (communication) to and from God, grow. Your faith will be huge.

Our model to pattern by should always be Jesus. His mercy and grace towards people teaches us how to dial down our personalities somewhat; and dial UP our faith in Him. If we eat the fruit and throw away the seeds in the trash; how can anyone be saved? The seed is the scripture you store in your heart

Mishael

The Democrats have made it illegal to sing in church.

Illegal to have a full church.

Illegal to be caught without a face mask in church. Huge fines on that.

If people can't go to church when they want to, it will cause a falling away.

There is church on FM radio 24 hours a day, plus some AM stations; Church on YouTube, Christian based movies on YouTube.

Drop Netflix and pick up PUREFLIX: all Christian based movies and documentaries; plus children's programs.

Stop paying high prices for satans networks.

As the Christian group, Stryper, once sang: TO HELL WITH THE DEVIL. I like that song so sue me.

Find one that rhymes with corrupted Democrats. In Albuquerque they made a drive to work song off the music of the Bangles; from their walk like an Egyptian song. It was called, "Drive Like An Albuquerquian". It was hilarious. Figure out how to mock the Democrats that want to tax us into debtors prison....in America?!?

I'm not loving it at all.

People click on that link out on the red link page and follow How To Become A Christian.

Everything you need to know is on that link.

The most important things.

Ask to receive the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. Be brave and ask the Holy Spirit to take over your education in the most important things of God! Who is Jesus in your new life? How to pray to God? How to have faith he hears your prayer?

How to forgive people whose guts you hate? How to forgive ourselves? Time is running out to get our business straight with God.

Let's grow up in Jesus. He is greater and mightier than anything we did with the devil.

New day! New man/woman of God. Brand new life that is now hid in Christ Jesus for eternity. Encourage yourself with the power of the Holy Spirit.

Be back later, Mishael

Judgment is forbidden we are the Temple of GOD. the Temple of truth sacrificial suffering mat.5:10 peacemaking ch.5:9 inward purity ch.5:8 mercifulness ch.5:7 spiritual hunger ch.5:6 meeknessch.5:5 penitence ch.5:4 Hummility ch.5:3

I was thinking about this just before I

Read your response ,

The modern age of science is contrary often to faith , yet has no answers to the big issues unless you believe a theory .

It's says that many will say where is the promise of his coming and turn away from truth .seems all religions will pave the way for Antichrist and not be able to resist his outrageous claims . Also the Antichrist will exalt himself above all that is called God and not find much resistance enough to over throw him , but the Lord will do that himself ! :)

I believe you're correct in saying, "it (falling away) seems to be accelerating". As we move closer to the end of days & of the revelation of the Anti-Christ, what always inflicted the Church in its beginnings will continue & become more evident & rampant towards the end. There is much syncretism going on at present, with religions trying their utmost to find common ground & common faith, even to the disregarding of vital & precious doctrines, & diluting the power of the Cross.

So I believe that 'falling away' is not just an individual matter about a person turning aside from Christ, that it is, rather that the Church (if indeed they ever held onto the Truth), has wilfully lost its focus & beliefs for the cause of being accepted by all & to have peace & unity with all religions & peoples. Jesus said, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." ( Matthew 10:34). If that were to happen within one's household as Jesus said, how much more shall the sword of Truth be wielded upon those who despise the Truth & make the Cross of no effect & a lie. The Gospel will always cut to the heart & expose wickedness. If it were ever to be used to join all men together in harmony, then it would have been given out in error & in the end, both the 'preacher of this nonsense' & the hearer of those 'gracious words', will both be damned.

With your explanation it would tend me to believe this falling away happened over a very long period of time , perversion of the truth . I can see that happening . So then there would be virtually no true Christians left , with the exception of a few , as in Noah's time only 8 people and that was just 1 family actually was faithful in Gods eyes . Noah found grace .

Or the falling away could be a dramatic event or series of them in a short time to cause a notable falling away . One thing that seems obvious to me is it seems to be accelerating , but also many are noticing it as well . i personally think the Antichrist and his arrival are not all that soon , but I can see things developing, I read in Daniel that when sin reaches its full then he appears , so the falling away will be very much complete. We have lots to be thankful for still .

God is faithful to all generations.

"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition", 2 Thessalonians 2:3.

The answer might sound somewhat glib, but it is all to do with Satan, the enemy of our souls & hater of God & all goodness. The Apostle Paul's reference to it specifically refers to a noticeable period of time where, from within the Church, there will be those (maybe, many) who either turn their backs to Christ & His Gospel of Salvation or introduce false teaching that dilutes the truth & power of God's Word.

Such apostasy from the teachings of Christ was evident from the early Church as Satan intruded into her midst, with those coming in having special wisdom, but actually were proponents of heresy, lies & deceit, bringing many into spiritual disrepair. Satan's tool was (& is) to give the Christian a sense of his own worth, his own knowledge & wisdom, his own power to control, that ultimately removes the believers' understanding of his position in Christ & utter dependency upon Him. Generally, such 'new' thoughts are commonly referred to as 'Gnostiscm' with its branch, 'Docetism', which has played havoc with the Church then as it does now. This is a huge subject, which you might be better served to study online, which essentially denies or dilutes everything that Christ & the apostles have taught, placing man on a higher plane than should be afforded him.

The Apostle John dealt with this in his First Epistle & so this letter becomes particularly meaningful to the reader, if one understands the devilish teaching of the Gnostics. And of course, we have the many 'Christian' religious offshoots, cults, sects, etc. that also introduce teaching foreign to the proper understanding of God's Word, bending it to suit their belief system.

Before that day of Christ's Return, we are warned to be aware of this increasing corruption in the Church & revelation of the Anti-Christ.

What causes the falling away before the anti christ ?

I know it's a speculative question, but maybe someone has some insight granted but God .

"If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema Maranatha," 1 Corinthians 16:22 . Why these two words, one Greek and the other Syriac, were not translated, is not obvious. They are the words with which the Jews began their greater excommunication, whereby they not only excluded sinners from their society, but delivered them up to the divine cherem, or anathema, that is, to misery in this life, and perdition in the life to come. "Let him be Anathema" is, "Let him be accursed." Maranatha signifies, "The Lord cometh," or, "will come;" that is, to take vengeance. See ACCURSED .

I believe you can put that in Google: type teaching after it

You'll see what the teachers say. Just pick Jesus following teachers.

PRAY AT YOUR CHURCH offices with someone, to receive the Holy Spirit; in a corporate kind of setting. Call & make an appointment.

The Holy Spirit HELPS us to understand spiritual truth. A deaf and dumb spirit (demon) or a hindering demon may be afflicting you. They come in through "doors" we ignore.

If anything occult in nature or questionable reside within your possessions, it gives them permission. Ask the Holy Spirit to Go through all your possessions with you. If He cringes, destroy it and get rid of it. Any books on ungodly supernatural phenomena, destroy utterly. zodiac jewelry too. Do not pawn or sell.

Matthew 12

43 When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest, and findeth none.

44 Then he saith, I will return into my house (you) from whence I came out; and when he is come, he findeth it (you) empty, swept, and garnished.

45 Then goeth he, and taketh with himself seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter in and dwell there: and the last [state] of that man/woman/child, is worse than the first. Even so shall it be also unto this wicked generation.

GARNISHED means actively, regularly, being filled up with the Word of God: the Bible. Maintaining close, daily contact with The Holy Spirit, through prayer and praise. Empty means you need to fill up on more scripture. Swept, means there may be dust curls of forgotten idols? Go thru kids things too.

Demons produce "fruit" that reveals their names: depression, fear, torments, unclean, religious. They cannot cross the Blood of Jesus. Plead the Blood and ask God to send angels to guard the 4 corners of your home. Thank Him. You will soon be aware of peace in your home. Again, garnish your spirit. Fill it up on the power of Jesus and his Bible.

Demons are brain damaged and keep hoping for different results. Remind them they are going to hell.

Mishael

I Believe in God,I really do. But I still question will I get in Heaven. I try to read and understand the bible but I cant quote anything to help lead a lost sole " my children" to the Lord, I am a backside and did not bring them up in church like I was brought up. I Failed them Horribly.

And again, Luke 10:16 "He that HEARETH YOU HEARETH ME; and HE THAT DESPISETH YOU DESPISETH ME; and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me."

What about witnessing to our family members? Family are perhaps the hardest people to preach to. Because they know us. "Oh that's just Joshua, I've known him since I was a kid. He used to pull my hair! What does he know?"

It's as Jesus said, "No prophet is accepted in his own country." Or by their own family! God tells us this: "And of some HAVE COMPASSION, MAKING A DISTINCTION: And others SAVE WITH FEAR, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." Jude 22-23

But God even gave us the example of our own wives/husbands if they reject and leave us BECAUSE of the Gospel:

1 Corinthians 7:15 'But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. 16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?'

If an unbelieving husband or wife leaves us, we are not under bondage to go after them. If we are not REQUIRED to go after our own spouses, why would we go after the dogs/swine? Recall again Matthew 7:6.

Our duty as Jesus Christ's servants is to preach His Gospel. Can we make judgments about anyone BEFORE we tell them the Gospel? I don't think so. However, once we have preached to someone, and they react to the news of Christ as a dog/swine(they reject it, mock it, insult it etc), their blood is on their own head. We are clean.

Acts 18:6 'And when they opposed themselves, and blasphemed, he shook his raiment, and said unto them, YOUR BLOOD BE UPON YOUR OWN HEADS; I AM CLEAN'

And again, Acts 20:26-27 "Wherefore I take you to record this day, that I am pure from the blood of ALL MEN. For I HAVE NOT SHUNNED TO DECLARE UNTO YOU ALL the counsel of God."

And again, Mark 6:11 "whosoever shall not receive you, NOR HEAR YOU, when ye depart thence, SHAKE OFF THE DUST UNDER YOUR FEET for a testimony AGAINST THEM. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city."

And again, Matthew "whosoever shall not receive you, NOR HEAR YOUR WORDS, when ye depart out of that house or city, SHAKE OFF THE DUST OF YOUR FEET."

Perhaps seeds were planted/watered by us and later that person will come to their senses, but the Bible tells us our duty is fulfilled. We depart from them and warn others.

Matthew 7:6 'GIVE NOT that which is holy UNTO THE DOGS, neither cast ye your pearls BEFORE SWINE, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.'

We see here, Christ Jesus never required us to babysit or go after the dogs or swine. Rather, he warns us to beware them.

Philippians 3:2 "BEWARE OF DOGS, beware of evil workers" Dogs are people who reject the Gospel of Christ. God compares them to evil workers.

And again, in Titus 3:10-11 "A man that is an heretick AFTER the first and second admonition REJECT; Knowing that HE THAT IS SUCH IS SUBVERTED, and SINNETH, BEING CONDEMNED OF HIMSELF.

There are two aspects to consider. First, due to the fallen nature of mankind brought on us by Adam's sin, people have desires for many things that are outside God's will for our lives. We all have what we call a carnal sin nature, or the flesh. Different people have different fleshly desires. Simply to be tempted in our weakness is not sin.

And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you. Therefore, brethren, we are debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye shall die: but if ye through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God. ( Romans 8:10-14)

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death. Do not err, my beloved brethren. ( James 1:12-16)

Our second consideration is the act itself:

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination. ( Leviticus 18:22)

This means the LORD finds it repulsive and those who engage in it have rejected God.

Is being homosexual a sin

The serpent fell before man.

Matthew 7:6: "Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you."

This verse is part of the message that Jesus gave to his disciples & those who wanted to listen to Him (message starting from chapter 5). So in 7:6, Jesus spoke about those who were undeserving to receive God's Truth (Jesus referred to them as 'dogs & swine'). In those days, both animals were looked down upon & were 'unclean', especially swine, so Jesus' use of these words would have given a lot of meaning to His message. And Jesus spoke about "that which is holy" and of "pearls": again the Jews knew about holiness, both attributed to God's Words in the Old Testament & to how one should live before God.

So Jesus is saying that if there are those that don't just refuse the Truth, but actually become violent & disgusting when hearing it, these people should be avoided - you should not persist in helping them to know about Heavenly matters. Those people would only treat the message as filth, trample upon it & could even turn upon the disciples. And this would be useful for the disciples to know, as Jesus even spoke about the time when people would reject their message & they were to turn away from that city & shake off the dust off their sandals ( Mark 6:11).

Today, we have a wonderful Gospel message to give to all people that will save them from Hell. But most will reject it & some even turn violent against it & us. Jesus says in Mt 7:6, that we should never force His Message, & even turn away from them if you can see that their hatred for God & His Son are evident. Don't fight them - turn away & leave them as those Hell-bound. Maybe at some future time, they will have their hearts touched & changed to receive God's Message.

Yes for Generations he promised as long as we turn from our sin.

In Matthew 7:6 in plan English what does that mean?

Thank you for the scriptures!