Obadiah Chapter 1 Discussion Page 2

My great grandmother was full blooded American Indian. What does that make me? 1/4, 1/16th? Black, white, yellow, red, olive. We are all sons of God. We are all brothers in Christ. He don't look on our color, He looks on our heart. Love one another, as Christ loves you.

If God said it was good it is good. If you think He's so bad & wrong I can't help you I won't even try.

i feel you have misinterpreted those scriptures. white means purity of heart not skin color.

if all are so good then why this?
Zephaniah 2:5 Woe unto the inhabitants of the sea coast, the nation of the
Cherethites! the word of the LORD is against you; O Canaan, the land of the
Philistines, I will even destroy thee, that there shall be no inhabitant.

Obadiah 1:18 - And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a
flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour
them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath
spoken it.

But I might add--in Genesis God made the 6th day creation (ALL RACES) and looked and said it was very good. (white-brown-black-etc, for His pleasure).

Bible book Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE white and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.

Bible book Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies, their polishing was of sapphire:

Revelation 1:14 - His Jesus head and his hairs were WHITE white like wool, as WHITE white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire; 15 And his feet like unto fine brass, ...

In short this applies to the false Ashkenazi Jews who are the actual Edomite s possessing the land of Israel right now. Revelation 2:9 says this about them I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan . Only God will destroy these people. The second coming of Jesus will uncover a lot of truths that Christians have never addressed and fear to tackle. The true Jews will be in the land of their captivity when Christ comes and it is only he who will gather them back. These Jews are the Africans that are heavily despised by the whole world and who have suffered shame and h

esau is not the arabs its caucasions. so called white people are not white they are red

There are Only 2 Groups 1 On The Left, 1 On The Right. Sheeps Or Goats. Jew Or Gentile. Whosoever was Not Found Written in The Book of Life was Cast into The Lake of Fire( Revelation 20:15) 1 With The Savior / 1 in The Lake of Fire..Forever/ Choose Who You Will Serve. We will Hear The Trumpet Very Soon.

Again, Jehovah / GOD pronounce judgement on a nation / people and GOD explain why HE has ruled ruled the way HE did; plus GOD reassured the remnant of another nation / people ( whom HE chastised ) HE shall restore them again. GOD,s wrath and faithfulness / LOVE is again shown in the above. WOW! WOW! WOW!

Restoration and age enduring prosperity is been received.Holiness will be their life style.

You say in your comment, " The latter glories of the church " Obadiah has nothing to do with the church which was unknown to Old Testament writers and was a revelation to the Apostle Paul only. Obadiah the second part is about the future glory of the nation Gods chosen people.

Absolutely cant be the arabs because they don't use they don't exault themselves using the eagle, they haven't stolen from every nation. It also can't be the arabs because they are descendants from Ishmael... This prophecy has not yet happened, hence "the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau;"

How many times has God sent a warning to America? We call this nation great, but this nation like the Edomites turned away from God. The people turned away, because they refuse to read and study God word, and depend on the leaders in the church, which many are false and perverters of the gospel. We are all responsible to have a personal relationship with the lord, built on our faith, in Jesus.

I believe its the end of the nations of Esau's during the end times. The wickedness of Esau's has reached our heavenly Father and Obadiah has made it clear. The bible says the earth is given in the hands of the wicked, who's the ruler of the earth? Obadiah talks about Jacob being the flame, meaning the ruler of the next kingdom. Israel is my first born!! Esau's are not Arabs

Helene; In the Original Text, the word you are writing about is Hebrew 'shemuwah' meaning something heard, i.e. an announcement - bruit, doctrine, fame, mentioned, news, report, rumor, tidings. Additionally, the King James English also has to be understood the way it was in the 17th Century, not by today's. The archaic or first meaning of rumour is din or clamour. Modern English has lost a lot!

Rumor...is a statement that has not been validated yet, but something that may take place in the future...so because Edom was not brought down yet, it was considered a rumor

In a nutshell Esau, the Edomites or the modern day Arabs will not rule again. If u look at the old biblical maps and compare them to modern day maps, you will see that Edom is in Saudi Arabia which is pretty much Mecca. Also Teman is n Saudi Arabia which proves my point. Esau watched and helped his brothers and sisters of Jacob go into captivity. Esau will be cutoff when Yah returns.

"WE", as the people, "HEARD", as some people listen, "RUMOR", as some people talk about, "From The Lord!, as some people are revealed Wisdom! "an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle." - Now, Who Are The Heathen on Earth?

God was making a point. He was sort of questioning the Edomites belief in him. He went into talking about how stubborn and selfish they were if you read on. Almost like the Edomites did not really believe God was who he said he was.

Mark (cont.) In addition to learning the original meanings of words, and understanding within the context of all that is being said; it is important to NOT rely on our modern-day usage of language, as it is greatly lacking in many cases because we simply do not understand nor use many words in the same way as in earlier times, and knowledge has been lost due to man's pursuit of ignorance of God.

Hi Mark; The Hebrew word translated into our English King James Bible as, rumour, is more accurately, something heard; as an announcement, news, report, etc. Another example is found in the place where it talks about the "fame" of Jesus spreading... the word in Greek is better, "the hearing of Him" was spreading... Compare Obadiah 1 with Daniel 4:13

Mark Verrell, I am no scalar of the word, but read verse 3. I get it in my understanding that the rumor is really from what Satan said when he tried to take over the set of GOD. I’m interested in the reply’s of others.

I am confused in the 1st verse of Obadiah" we have heard a rumor from the.LORD " I don't understand the LORD DOES NOT SPEAK IN RUMORS WHAT DOES THIS MEAN ARE THEY CONFUSED AND NOT SURE OF WHAT THE LORD IS SAYING??

WHO IS OBADIAH

I thank god for keeping his promise to the chosen people jacob

Verse 10: Esau and his offspring showed a violent spirit toward his brother Jacob and his offspring. For this unjust treatment, they would have to face the consequences.

The LORD IS AT HAND....If we are reading this chapter GOD is talking to you ,telling us he's coming someday only GOD knows, but he is coming, so LOVE ONE ANOTHER and FORGIVE ONE ANOTHER..LOVE YOU MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS..MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY AND UR ENEMIES

Hey
Debbie, I think you are absolutely right! We should have respect towards God. Just look in the first book in the Bible, all that he made was for us. :) I am grateful that we have a loving God.

Please all that leave comments, capitalize "God" when you are referring to the most High Lord of lords and King of kings. Obadiah gave this respect for Him and who are we that cannot or will not?