Philippians Chapter 2 Discussion Page 2

Revelations 12 I believe confirms what Rick is saying, I hope this helps

Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nation

Revelation Chapter 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

Because the word of god said He was before he changed.

The name Lucifer is only mentioned once in the Bible ( Isaiah 14:12). And if the time is take to examine and study this entire chapter one would discover that the context that this reference is made in regard to the King of Babylon.

The different names in Gods word for the devil or satan or the detroyer or the tempter or the serpent and their are others, lucifer at one time was Gods right hand angel and decided usurp Gods authority but these are all descriptions of his different functions, ie father of lies, angel of light. Keep in mind not all angels are good, the meaning of angel is messenger so in regards to that the source must be determined.

I have always thought the same thing and I would also like a answer. Thanks!

Hello my brother Adam,

I guess I just wanted to write you my opinion. As you have your beliefs on this and that's fine of coarse. I believe animals do have a soul but not a spirit as Ricky stated. If animals didn't have souls they would be like robots with no personalities. As of coarse something like a fish is so small and simple you really can't tell one from another. Although as with dogs, cats, birds, horses, etc you can very much tell that there is differences in personalities one to another. They are alive naturally from God. They see, hear, smell, eat, drink, and make decisions.

God Bless you my brothers and sisters.

Adam I'm not here to agree or disagree with what people think but what the word says living creatures breath oxygen which is breath life which has nothing to do with spiritual life man was a 3 part being originally. Gen. 1:27 spirit and Gen. 2:7 body and soul.

Food for thought many times in Gods Word man is described like beast of the field I.E. Goats because like stubborn animals He chooses not to follow God and acts like an animal. I.E. survival instincts which is not believing for God to supply his need.

After Adam and Eve, disobeyed the word . Because of their innocence ,an animal had to die for the sole purpose of clothing these two, and of course those who would follow. This was because of their disobedience! We know God is love, and he loved his animals. They are his creation! So then comes the institution of animal sacrifice, that they may remember their sin, while receiving reconciliation , once again killing that which God made! Many would wonder how and why this way! Killing a beast could not be easy, when done accordingly. The judgment upon man, the process is nothing more than temporary, until the next sacrifice! That is why it could never take away sins! Only Christ could that! Many think we are good! Many think we do not need a savior! I would suggest to those great minds, do you not remember Cain and Abel? There is nothing good in man, his natural state is evil even from his youth. You can deny the truth, and you may in the end be judged according to the law. Or you can walk in this life forgiven through his OWN shed blood receiving eternal life.

Hello, you wrote "Yes animals have a soul." Most people don't agree with that, whether a Bible believer or not.

ps never said animals had or have spirit so chill pill

Why such an attitude as a Christian I never said God sent His son to deliver animals by the way in your line of thought the spirit is soul and the soul is spirit not possible. The spirit when we are born again is given by God we are not born with it which is why God's word says we are born dead in trespasses and sins without God and without hope. When you for the body from dust thou are and to dust thou a shalt return also the spirit we were given God's back to God who have it by the way when Chrsit was on the Cross he says to God into your hands O commend my spirit then he took his last breath and died. Three days later he was raised from the dead body did not corrupt. What does that have to do with animals!

An animal will not make a choice, even after they are taught they have one!

Hello, animals don't have souls. They don't make moral decisions about right and wrong, they don't sin, and Jesus didn't die to save ticks, flies, amoebas, corona virus, and rattlesnakes. We are more valuable than animals: Matthew 6:26. We were made in God's image: Genesis 1:27. Scorpions and hammerhead sharks weren't made in God's image. Those who claim otherwise are not reading the Bible first to understand what it means. Instead they are believing what they WANT to believe then cherrypicking certain verses, distorting and twisting them to try to match as close to what they want to believe as they can.

Yes animals have a soul the soul is breath life Genesis 2:7 thats what God gave man also animals what he didnt give animals is spirit when either man or beast takes his last breath he dies.

The Bible and the word of God is laid out in the form of the tabernacle or a cross. ( Ex 25).The shadow and figure of the Stature of Jesus Christ is unveiled in the detailed blueprint of the Old Testament Tabernacle, known as Moses' Tabernacle. This was the first Tabernacle, and it was a picture of the Second Tabernacle, the LORD Jesus Christ; therefore, we can find all Spiritual Principles of Wisdom, Understanding, and Knowledge hidden within it. There are 7 pieces of furniture in the tabernacle. The first is the Brazen Altar where the sacrifices took place. It is picture of Christ sanctifying blood sacrifice on the cross. Next in the courtyard is the laver (wash basin)or (baptism). This is God's beginning principle of growth. Every believer or nation must experience the blood, fire and water (baptism) which together makes up the foundational part of the cross. Next is the Holy place wherein is the altar of incense(prayer) , the candlesticks (knowledge, understanding, wisdom), and the table of showbread (Christ's governmental strength). then in the Holy of Holies is the ark of the covenant and the mercy seat. This is God's throne room where HE promises to commune and meet with us. SO when you read anything in the bible the word will fit on the cross(tabernacle) and teach us something specific. The old testament had a natural tabernacle but Jesus is a picture of a more perfect tabernacle.( Heb 9:2-11) We can learn how to grow by studying the meaning behind the furniture in Moses' tabernacle and what it represents. (Tim 3:16,17)

Hi Kevin. If you are referring to "let us make an in our image" then God was talking to JESUS and the Holy Spirit. In the Godhead you have the Father, Word and the Holy Spirit an these three are one. So God is 3 but operates as one as all 3 agrees when something is done. In vs 28 he says to Adam male and female to take care of all living things (animals and plants) as we know them today. So Adam male and female was the first humans created on this earth. If you wondering about Gen 2vs7 then God is just restating how Adam was formed in Gen 1:26. At this stage Eve was still not visible to Adam. Eve was later formed out of Adam's rib and revealed to him but she was part of him up till then. You could say that Adam was both male and female when God created him. Be careful to keep it in context. This might give creedance to the LGBTQ community stance though.

Music does indeed provide much comfort & help especially in times of anxiety. Of course, with good music coupled with truthful encouraging words, then the song can truly be uplifting to one's soul & of praise to God by one's spirit.

Music, as many things we partake in life, is dependent on the person's understanding & appreciation of it. What I like to listen to may not necessarily be another's preference. And that's fine, as good music can minister in its own special way to different people. And so to with a band: various types of music is heard & it becomes one's preference to listen to them or not. I'm not sure whether you're referring to secular bands or Christian. You need to judge whether the words & music conform to your liking & what is proper & wholesome in God's Sight. The best music I find are those that truly cause me to thank & worship God for Who He is & all He has done for me. Hymns do that for me but may not for another who has never been inclined towards them.

There is no such thing as just entertainment. There's always a message behind the entertainment. When we choose to be entertained, we choose to receive the message that is there behind the entertainment. Research your music groups. What is their message?

I love all music, it speaks to me and comforts me. Is it wrong to listen to songs by any band.

Thats a good question Sarah! "If we're going through the tribulation does the other books of the Bible matters " all the examples in the Bible of saints being spared from God's wrath would seem like fairy tales wouldn't it. Doesn't make sense does It. sort of reasonable to think we want go through it right? Amen

Do you know how old the universe is? Neither do I. These things only God knows. His ways are past finding out! In all your ways acknowledge Him and he will guide your path! You may ask him to comfort you, with the faith to keep you strong, until that time comes. Have a great day!

Hello ,

I was curious if we are going to experience the trials and tribulations or if the rapture comes first?

If we do experience the trials and tribulations will the other books in the Bible still apply to our lives? Or will we just be trying to survive?

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God bless

Genesis 1 26 -28 I need some help to understand this , If I take this as I do that everything in the Bible is TRUE . Then Adam and Eve were not the first people God made , because why would he say that they have dominion over all the beast , and be fruitful and multiply , God did not state that till Adam and Eve was sent out of Eden . Just need a little help cause I was always told Adam and Eve were FIRST. Would explain were Cain's wife came from , help please

We should be as Christ. Loving one another , without covetousness, not looking unto others things .Doing things out of love not for vain glory !We are to be as Christ. Always humble, looking unto him. that we worship as the son of God. So, how can we do these things if we are not like one another. We should always except one another as Christ excepts us . We as brother and sisters should always remember what He has done for all of us!

We start out as a child , we except the word for what it is! As we mature and live our life we carry his word with us. I carried a bible most of my life. I still have a very short memory, and have difficulty remembering chapters and verses. So., what I do is try to apply certain things that happen in life to his words. There is nothing that will happen to you, that is uncommon to man. You will soon find out that Satan does not like anyone excepting Christ. This world is his place , this to you will find out. The 3 words I always, always remember, is when He says " Do Not Be Afraid"

That was good testimony, thank you!

R

This was the name I looked for , my last born of 7.Mishael! Fantastic testimony. You nailed it.

You should find the "Become A Christian" link on this website and compare your experiences with what it says on the total link.

John 3, where Jesus is speaking to the Pharisee, Nicodemas: Jesus tells him he must be born again. When we are born again, we ask for the baptism of the Holy Spirit. He is the Spirit of Jesus Christ. He is available to be your personal Teacher. He opens up the Bible to you. As you are able, He explains your questions.

It involves daily study of your Bible. Works best if you turn off media and listen for the Holy Spirits voice. It is not audible. He reveals Jesus to your born again spirit. With much practice, you will become more in tune to the Holy Spirits presence.

It's more beneficial to begin in the New Testament, learning just who Jesus is. Once that foundation is secure; you'll understand the Old Testament in your study travels.

Attend a Church that is teaching Bible Scripture. Some of them teach "works" or put more emphasis on counseling and relationships. You grow faster if you are learning scripture and how to enter into Gods Presence with praise and worship.

Let us know how it's going, and if we can help more. Explore all the links out on the red links page. It's all good things to read.

Mishael