Psalms Chapter 22 Discussion

To add to the discussion on Psalm 22; the sufferings of Christ; His one time separation from the Father so that He could be the atonement for our sins and utter rejection by His own should be considered carefully. There are plenty of scientific journals which talk of the incredible suffering with the brutality of a crucifixion. We need to remember that while we were yet ENEMIES Christ died for us. (see Romans 5:8; Ephesians 2:3 and many other scriptures). He experienced what we under the blood will never have to experience when taking on our sin and trading it for His righteousness through the sacrifice on the cross. There is more to see here as we get to Psalm 24 on that subject.

As for now; we remember that He will always have the nail scarred hands and feet on His resurrected body. ( Luke 24:39). He conquered death itself; which also is a theme discussed in the next study on Psalm 23 often used to assure those on their hour of need or to those facing death. Our only hope is in Christ; as are the blessings so we need to carefully examine our hearts to see if we are right with the Lord NOW. (See Hebrews 9:27).

Agape.

This Psalm is widely known as a prophetic one about the crucifixion of Christ. There are many cross references here which can be cited but I feel it is more fitting to leave it to the reader to examine the scriptures for themselves what appears between Genesis 3 and Micah. This would be the main scripture that should speak to Jews along with the often avoided Psalm 53 on the sufferings of Messiah.

Verses 26 and on signify the future reign of Christ on earth; as to my eschatological bend; I would say the Millennial period is in focus here; notwithstanding all eternity afterwards. This is much like Luke 4:18 which quotes the first part of the statement beginning Isaiah 61 (verse 1) without verse 2 which states; once again His rule after the second coming. In general; however we feel about the Millennial period taking verses as anything but literal makes no sense when all those who are Post Millennial; for instance seem to take the prophetic verses of His first coming quite literally. This multilayered view is more common than not in the prophetic. It is clear in many of these Psalms that David when speaking through the inspiration of the Spirit spoke of Christ's sufferings and in that sense also suffered as we are today ( 1 Peter 5:10). In this Psalm; however it seems that everything is about Christ rather than David. No wonder God said that he was a "man after His own heart." ( 1 Sam. 13:14).

Psalm 22 is a Psalm of King David & is also understood as a Messianic Psalm, i.e. prophetically looking ahead to Christ & His sufferings prior to & upon the Cross.

When we consider the Psalm, we see David's allusions to various animals, viz. the strong bulls of Bashan (v12); a ravening, roaring lion (vv13, 21); & dogs (vv16,20). All these animals appeared to David as representative of people (his enemies) & probably the evil spirit behind them, that sought to take his life. So the imagery given to us in 'dogs', is that of a pack of wild dogs with baring teeth, seeking to pierce him (v16) & maul & devour him (v20: by their ruthless power over man).

And "my soul" & "my darling" speaks about his enemies' focussed thrust against him, and it appeared to David, as directed only against him - to rob him not only of his life, but all that that life was purposed to accomplish for God's Purposes. He earnestly sought the Lord, the One Who gave him life, nurturing him & bringing him to this point of being Israel's king (vv9,10). Thus his cry for deliverance from evil men that they should not gain victory over his life & he would be a living testimony of God's Power & Goodness to his people (vv22 ff).

for dogs have compassed me;

the assembly of the wicked have

enclosed; me they pierced my hands and

my feet. verse 16 the dog here is referring

to the enemy of Gods people.

also chapter 22 is a prophecy of

Christ, psalm 35:17 the enemy referred

to as a lion.

What is the meaning of

The power of the dog

Powerful. Blessed Be God, The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit. Amen.

You answered Your own question within your question.

October 22, 2020, my granddaughter, Naomi Grace Haywood, turns 15 years old today. We have a tradition of reading one's "birthday Psalm" as part of our birthday celebrations and I wonder: Lord, why have you chosen this for Naomi's birthday? That the Lord's return for us is near is evident: may He make us, especially those we love, ready that we may endure whatever is coming upon us. Bless you Lord Jesus and blessed be your Holy Name!

Yesterday in Bible study I mentioned the rejection of Christ as he spoke in ancient Israel.Today I read this psalm and see,if in only some small part,the depth of hurt to him,in the midst of agonizing physical pain.And since this psalm predates his time here on Earth,he already knew,if only in word,what he would face,yet he gave himself for our souls.A love beyond degree.I thank God to be of the seed and tell forth what he has done.

As i sit in the Blessed Sacrament Chapel and read psalm 22, God's word becomes so real and The Presence manifests. Glory Lord JESUS!!! I LOVE JESUS.

This was the first line of Psalm 22 and any Jews at the cross would have known this. It is a messianic psalm. He was saying He is the Messiah.

V-1 My God, My God, WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME? YAHUSHUA SAID THIS BEFORE HE DIED ON THE CROSS. THEN HE DIED FOR US. I LOVE YAHUSHUA WITH ALL MY HEART AND SOUL. Please Forgive me of all my Sins.

Being the last time, that spirit of antichrist is in many: but the godly run not nor advise such. It is written, The fear of the wicked, it shall come upon him: but the desire of the righteous shall be granted. In God I will praise his word, in God I have put my trust; I will not fear what flesh can do unto me. The fear of the Lord drives away sins: and where it is present, it turns away wrath.

You See the Abomination of Desolation Spoken of by Daniel The Prophet Stand in The Holy Place. Run.(Matthew24:15-16)Abomination is The Antichrist Standing in The Temple. Immediately After The Tribulation of those Days---The Lord Will Send His Angel's to Gather His Elect( Matthew 24:29-31) The Temple is Built Before The Rapture/Tribulation is:Satan Attacking Believers(Wrath of God Revelation 16:1

I think the third temple will be built after the Rapture of the Church. The anti- Christ will defile it by sacrificing the wrong kind of meat.

Vanessa Statement is a Little Ambiguous. Will The 3rd be Built Before or after The Lord's Return? The Lord Himself Will build it? Is it physical or spiritual?

Bruce, since Vanessa seems to have disappeared, I will answer. She must be referring to the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem (The 2nd was destroyed by the romans in the year 70) This is a little strange, since Christians don't believe that animal sacrifice will return, whereas the Jewish people certainly do. If you have any more questions about the Jewish viewpoint I will be happy to try and answer

Vanessa: Which Temple are You Referring to?

Bill when the Lord comes again he will build the new temple, in Israel, you have to understand the wording of the Bible, the fire is the Holy spirit, not to consume one but to change ones heart, David here has "faith" in the Father. to deliver him from his enemies as i say God never sleeps, and trust in him , after all he sent his only son to be crucified for us sinners, is there any greater love

Verse 22~We want to praise God all of the time, but especially in the midst of the congregation.

Alex,True righteousness is imputed here and now upon our belief in the finished work of ChristRom4:11Physical death removes believers from their sinful flesh1Corinthians15:42-53.The Kingdom of God will be physically here on Earth for 1000yrs.Humanity fails always.The work of Christ is not a down payment,leaving people to finish payment for salvation.

Mild Bill Death does not take away our evil Adamic sin nature,iIts being bornagain of incorruptible seed which are the words of the new covenant. The living words of the book of life.True righteousness has to come via his seed which are the words of God.and its nothin short of his kingdom that is gonna be within us.While we are yet living this corruptible will put on incorruptiion AND IMMORTALITY

Wild Bill i love ya but you seem to imply we will attain no TRUE righteousness till we die and leave this world, 2 nd coming is gonna make us kings and Priest Christ is gonna be born in us while we are yet alive,The mystery of the kingdom of God is Christ in you, HERE ON THIS EARTH, JOHN SAYS THE KINGDOMS OF THIS WORLD HAVE BECOME The kingdom of our lord and his Christ,Humanity is gonna travail.

Alex,2Peter3:7,literal fire,Matthew13:40,literal fire,Matthew13:42,literal fire,Jude1:23,saving from literal fire,Matthew25:41,sending people to literal fire,2Peter3:13,literal fire,Matthew3:11,Holy Ghost AND fire not the one and the same,Jude1:7,literal fire on earth and eternal beyond the grave.Your"say so"is not PROOF. Sinful nature of believers is destroyed upon death to this world.Rom.7:24 25

Bill Jesus never wanted to call fire down from heaven and destroy anybody,The N.T.is much different then the old,When James and John wanted to call fire down from heaven and destroy the Samaritians Jesus rebuked them saying th son of man came not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives. But he said he came to bring fire on the earth which is a spritual fire ,his baptism of the H.G. N FIRE GBU.

Alex,"And Elijah answered and said unto them,If I be a man of God,let fire come down from heaven,and consume thee and thy fifty.And the fire of God came down from heaven,and consumed him and his fifty."2Kings1:12 Literally not spiritually,your quote does not prove a spiritual meaning to fire.The nature all of us obtain from Adam is destroyed,only for believers,when we leave this life in the flesh.

When James and John wanted to call LITERAL FIRE down from heaven and destroy the samaritians JESUS REBUKED them saying the son of man came not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives, which proves his FIRE is not LITERAL but a Spritual fire which is the H.G. BAPTISM, CONSUMING mens evil Adamic nature. God is spirit but God is also LOVE and also a consuming fire to destroy our satanic nature.

Death is the great separation.First we die to this world,the second death is being cast into the lake of fire,separated from God forever.The sacrificial death of Jesus,the innocent of sin,was accepted by God the Father,as payment for sinners."There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus,who walk not after the flesh,but after the Spirit."He has done this,his love for you

And now shall mine head be lifted up above mine enemies round about me: therefore will I offer in his tabernacle sacrifices of joy I will sing, yea, I will sing praises unto the LORD. The LORD is my strength and my shield my heart trusted in him, and I am helped: therefore my heart greatly rejoiceth and with my song will I praise him.

Bill; Why do you attack Dan? And what are you talking about, "Jesus attributes this saying to Abraham.." ? You don't really think that Abraham didn't hear God's words or believe he could raise the dead, do you? And how does that have any connection to what Dan and I were discussing? Maybe you should read them again! You might get something different, and not be so hasty to condemn the guiltless.