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WHY the word Rapture is not in the Bible on Psalms 46 - 4 years ago
In The Bible, the phrase to search is CAUGHT UP. It is commonly asserted that the word rapture doesn't appear in the Bible, and this absence is held forth as evidence that the teaching of the rapture is a falsehood. But this claim is UNTRUE. The word rapture does appear in the Bible. It appears in the exact same way that words like angel and apostle appear in the Bible. he word rapture is simply the anglicized form of the Greek word (harpaz) that appears in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 in the original text.
To begin with, the English word rapture is derived from the Latin participle raptus from the verb rapio. And Latin rapio and Greek (harpaz) are cognates - they are the same word. Don't be fooled by the superficial differences between Latin rapio and Greek harpaz. The - (-az) on the end of (harpaz) is not part of the shared stem but a common Koine Greek verb ending. The shared stem is simply "rap" - rap in Latin and - (r-p) in Greek.
The fact is, harpaz and rapio belong to a class of Greek and Latin cognates where Greek adds an "h" to the shared stem. Another example from this class is Greek (histmi) and Latin sto. Here again, neither the "h" at the beginning nor the - (-mi) verb ending are part of the shared stem. The stem is st in Greek and sto in Latin. And it is sta in English, from whence we get words like stand and standard.
So we see that English rapture, Latin rapio, and Greek harpaz are cognates - they are the same word in different languages. But not only are they the same word, they have the same meaning. Anyone who has done a little reading from extra-biblical Greek and Latin, or has at least enough familiarity with those languages to use the classical Greek and Latin lexicons is well aware of the fact that Greek (harpaz) and Latin rapio regularly bore the same sense of "remove from harm's way" that pretribulationists claim for the English word rapture.
Due to our age, my wife and I skipped a church meeting today taking place in a farm machine shop/ barn as the smoke is heavy in the valley here. Two of our teenagers got to go. Here at home we listened to a wedding taking place at a congregation in the Southern US. A wedding of different races, different cultures in the time of Covid and other hardships (none of the brides family could attend). The wedding completed another Christian home here in the United Stated and much more important in the Body of Christ. These young people gave their hearts and lives to the Lord separately several years back and the Lord led them to each other. Nothing is too great for God to accomplish in those who trust him. Our issues in life are His issues if we trust Him. The word "issues" is more KJV than other translations and my wife and I had a short discussion on the matter. Other translations seem to get to the point more quickly, such as trust. But Lord brought what seemed to be a challenging wedding to completion in due time, it took patience but the quality of the time will be part of this young couples marriage The KJV of the Bible seems to add quality in a way that is hard to put a finger on. It requires more patience in proving the will or issues being brought forward for it's reader's edification and sanctification. Finally it is one of several translations that can lead a man to salvation, but it is for me an much appreciated translation.
Could it be that the time is or almost is upon us that the non- resistant blood bought Christian will be separated from the resistant blood bought Christian?
Psalms 62:7-8 - In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.
Deuteronomy 4:7 - For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
Psalms 9:9 - The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.
2 Samuel 22:17-20 - He sent from above, he took me; he drew me out of many waters;He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them that hated me: for they were too strong for me.They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the LORD was my stay.He brought me forth also into a large place: he delivered me, because he delighted in me.
Psalms 91:1-9 - He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
Proverbs 18:10 - The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.
Hebrews 6:18 - That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
When God said let Us make man in Our image He speaking to His children.
Proverbs is clearly El.
Hebrew definition
gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.
Comment to WR about Abiding in Christ. WR Jesus says our relationship with Christ is like a branch and a vine,the branches have to abide in the Vine 24/7 or there will no fruit, IF THE BRANCHES do not abide in the Vine it dries up and dies and thats us we must abide in him continually,I was right its exactly like marriage made in heaven, You remember MOSES MARRIED ISRAEL TO GOD at Horeb with the blood saying this is what God has Enjoined unto you, and now we are married to Christ by a greater BLOOD, Enjoined means a marriage 2 becoming one . Jesus said i am the true vine and you are the branches abide in me and i in you. WR th disciples followed Jesus 24/7, they forsook ALL and followed him. We cannot follow Jesus 1 day a week it must be with all our hearts and minds etc we are the branches and he is that 1 true vine, even in the natural a branch and a Vine are 1.
Alex to WR ABOUT WHO IS THE BRIDEGROOM. WR i said when they asked John about Christ and his disciples, John replied he that hath the bride is the bridegoom.Who was it that had the disciples fllowing him ? Jesus, John was trying to tell them that it was Christ who was the bridegroom.John was just a friend of the bridegroom he said. And he said that his joy was fulfilled just to hear his voice ( his words, his seeds,ya remember jesus said b/c i have spoken these words ( his seeds ) sorrows have filled your hearts impling a spritual pregnancyWhen a woman is in travail she has sorrows till the Child comes then her sorrows are turned into joy,impling a spritual birth,the Child is the H.G. thats ye he said that which is born of the spirit is spirit thats our new innerman the H.G. WHICH MEANS ANOTHER COMFORTER ANOTHER CHRIST BORN IS US VIA HIS SEED THE WORD, They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin,he has a seed to sow in us sinners ( humanity ) That was the great Promise that Christ wd be be multiplied as the stars of heaven thus the sower and his precious seed sown is us sinners thats y the new birth is so important. We must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc which is the seed of the bridegroom. ok gbu WR
WR-- In Reply on Psalms 46 on Psalms 46 - 4 years ago
To Alex, I would re read Exodus 20 Verses 8 through 11. The scripture is clear that The Sabbath is to be kept holy. You said the disciples followed him 24/7 like a marriage. In marriage there is only one day that is the anniversary for each couple. On that day most couples celebrate this day as special. A day that is set apart to each other as something special. I have to say your idea of John being the Groom is unusual also. John as a disciple,is a member of the Church. and the church is the bride of Christ. He is returning one day for his bride. The Church. God Bless you.
Bruce, I do appreciate your point about finding patterns where none exist but I think you dismiss this one too quickly. Shakespeare was a known writer at the time and it is possible he had something to do with the KJV translation of the bible. Perhaps this is his version of an "Easter Egg"? Yes, people try to make random correlations meaningful but that doesn't mean some correlations aren't actually revealing something interesting. I think one needs to look at the degrees of freedom needed for the explanation and context of the "coincidence" to separate random from intention. Age 46, Psalm 46, word 46 in and word 46 out spells the name of someone possibly working on the text? Not so random..
While that's interesting, is it really the "World's greatest coincidence"? That someone found two words within a certain chapter of a book and tried to associate meaning to it? Someone can find such 'coincidences' with nearly any book, any writing, any author. Also the name isn't spelled the same. People claim to find all kinds of 'codes' elsewhere in the Bible too. Perhaps it's human nature to try to make random correlations seem meaningful. Wow, I just used 'the' four times, and the word four has 4 letters in it, which the Bible says the 4th day the moon was created which also has 4 letters! And there was a full moon tonight and now it's time 4 bed, wow!
This edition of the bible was completed when Shakespeare was 46 years old. The 46th word from the beginning is "shake" and the 46th word from the end is "spear." This is either the world's greatest coincidence, or it is not. Do with this as you may.
Verse 6, where the river about making the children of God happy, says "The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted." You can see my comment on Psalm 55 where I refer to how important my writings are, and when I'm let out unexpectedly by the court, the heathen will rage, I might say I'm depicted in the Bible and will turn the world to the Scriptures. 1 here.
In these restless days of so many loud voices, this Psalm is good to memorized and affirm to ourselves at all times, and to all others who shake with fear. Our God is GOOD, ALL the time. He is FAITHFUL! Declare His mighty works to all people.
God is love-- strength-- compassion-- he takes away the evilness that is so close at all times. he surrounds us with his mighty light!!! he listens to us when we are alone and sad. believe in his blessings and thank him. help others less fortunate-- to show him your love back. love him always!!!
If all the days of the week are holy then the Sabbath is holier, because its the only day in the bible which was blessed and sanctified after creation. Genesis 2 vs 2 n 3.
Yes, every day is a holy day. Yahushua went to the Temple every day to preach BUT the sabbath of Yahuwah is appointed by Yahuwah that every man should observe it. On that day, we do not but or sell, we worship and rest. It is the highest day of the week. Also, the sabbath is regulated by the moon. Stop using the gregorian calendar to calculate for the sabbath.
In Christ Jesus every day is the Sabbath,GOD wants every day Holy.When he said abide in me and i in you thats every day 24 7 Jesus said the Branches have to abide in the Vine 24 7 or there will be no fruit. His disciples followed him 24 7 not 1 day a week,they forsook everybody and every thing and followed him it was like a marriage. Even John said he that hath the bride disciples is the GROOM
I hope everyone is having a good day night, I just got home from Church and I learned that God is with us even through hard-ships, I am only 12 but I am sooo thankful for the Lord Jesus. And we where in " Psalms 46."
IMAGINE, The God who created the Universe has time to listen to a worthless, insignificant person, ME, anytime I call on him. That is mind boggling. Thank you Lord.
acknowledge god in all we do we must learn to rest in the lord trust in god seek is face search for him. give to god all our heart let his holy spirit guide you ,call upon his name every day try him he s waiting for you aman
Not a pretrib rapture before this great event .
Jesus is returning only once again . Not 2 more times with a secret rapture . It does not exist, but rather a fable to put it mildly.
Read 2 Thessalonians 2 v 3 carefully . There are many more but these should give you good guidance .
To begin with, the English word rapture is derived from the Latin participle raptus from the verb rapio. And Latin rapio and Greek (harpaz) are cognates - they are the same word. Don't be fooled by the superficial differences between Latin rapio and Greek harpaz. The - (-az) on the end of (harpaz) is not part of the shared stem but a common Koine Greek verb ending. The shared stem is simply "rap" - rap in Latin and - (r-p) in Greek.
The fact is, harpaz and rapio belong to a class of Greek and Latin cognates where Greek adds an "h" to the shared stem. Another example from this class is Greek (histmi) and Latin sto. Here again, neither the "h" at the beginning nor the - (-mi) verb ending are part of the shared stem. The stem is st in Greek and sto in Latin. And it is sta in English, from whence we get words like stand and standard.
So we see that English rapture, Latin rapio, and Greek harpaz are cognates - they are the same word in different languages. But not only are they the same word, they have the same meaning. Anyone who has done a little reading from extra-biblical Greek and Latin, or has at least enough familiarity with those languages to use the classical Greek and Latin lexicons is well aware of the fact that Greek (harpaz) and Latin rapio regularly bore the same sense of "remove from harm's way" that pretribulationists claim for the English word rapture.
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Psalms 62:7-8 - In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.Trust in him at all times; ye people, pour out your heart before him: God is a refuge for us. Selah.
Deuteronomy 4:7 - For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for?
Psalms 9:9 - The LORD also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.
2 Samuel 22:17-20 - He sent from above, he took me; he drew me out of many waters;He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them that hated me: for they were too strong for me.They prevented me in the day of my calamity: but the LORD was my stay.He brought me forth also into a large place: he delivered me, because he delighted in me.
Psalms 91:1-9 - He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
Proverbs 18:10 - The name of the LORD is a strong tower: the righteous runneth into it, and is safe.
Hebrews 6:18 - That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us:
Please define
Behind in no gift
When God said let Us make man in Our image He speaking to His children.
Proverbs is clearly El.
Hebrew definition
gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:--angels, X exceeding, God (gods)(-dess, -ly), X (very) great, judges, X mighty.