Revelation Chapter 1 Discussion Page 9

I apologize as I was following past conflicts into modern day conflicts. It has more continuity when you follow Edom.

I recently did a study on Abrahams family and did see the rest of Hagars story. She returned to her family's land and never married.

Abraham did wed again after Sarah's death.

You might want to consider that the majority of the vision has been completed during the time of the people to whom it was written ie. the seven churches of Asia.

The candlesticks are the seven churches named in vs. 11

I fully agree that this war has been going on for millenniums and that the animosity comes from the division between Esau and Jacob. However, I beg to differ in the case of Ishmael. Hagar was not a Palestinian. She was an Egyptian, probably acquired during Abraham and Sarahs' journey into that country previously. Also if you will check history, there was no such place as 'Palestine' at that time in history. Current day 'Palestine' was a part of Canaan and did not exist until modern day. Oh, Rome, after destroying the Holy City, named the area Capitolinia Phalistinia after the Philistine enemies of the Israelites. Ishmael had twelve sons who became Princes/Sheiks/Priests in what now is known as Persia/Iran. The present population of this area does not claim to be Arab. However, they are Muslim in religion. Thus enemies of modern Israel/Jewry.

the entity in the midst of the candlesticks is a metaphorical rendering of the glory, power and magnificence of Christ.

This is a vision showing the Power and Glory of Christ metaphorically. Remember, this is the 'revealing' of Jesus Christ to the churches of Asia.

It is my understanding that John was being told to write down the vision and send it to the churches that existed at that time as a "Revelation" of Jesus Christ. A revealing of him just as he had revealed his Father while he was among them.

what are you asking about - is this real?

If you are referring to the 7 churches; yes they were real assemblies of people during the time of what is referred to as the "Early Church"

The seven churches of Asia were seven churches planted by Paul during his journeys among the Gentiles.

what are the seven churches which are in Asia

Trials and tribulations is what we go through here and now, when we stand for christ, if we stand for him and his word, its persecution, read what jesus tells his desciples in john 15:18-20. now if you are refering to the tribulation period, we are not in that yet.

where are we in the trials n tribulations? what chapters relate to us in the now?

Comments by Alex about the Transfiguration on the mount the 7 th day . His raiment was Glorious ,White as Snow tho your SINS be as Scarlet they shall be white as Snow, his raiment is the Church he was presenting to God a GLORIOUS CHURCH without spot or wrinkle which was his Raiment his Garments , I was naked and you clothed me we are his Raiments ,AS REV. SAYS HE WAS CLOTHED with a Vesture dipped in blood, thats the Church US sinners that is made white by the blood of the lamb ,There is no fuller on this earth that can Whiten us like his blood, tho your sins be as scarlet they shall be white as snow. His raiments were Glorious and his face shown like the Sun ,He was presenting to God a glorious Church without spot or wrinkle. Remember Peter spoke of the Transfiguration on the mount saying he was gonna present to GOD a Glorious CHURCH WITHOUT SPOT OR WRINKLE OR ANY SUCH THING. not having any such blemish. Thats us the Church . Unto him that has loved us and has washed us from our sins in his own blood . Abide in me and i in you implies we are his Raiments . I was in need of garments and you clothed me. When his face shown like the SUN means we the Church that are gonna be the light of the WORLD, ABIDE IN ME AND I IN YOU. They spoke of his decease and what he wd accomplish at Jerusalem at the CROSS ,Behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the WORLD. IF I BE LIFTED UP I WILL DRAW ALL MEN UNTO ME. there is no fuller on this earth that can whiten us like his blood , his Glorious Raiments are the CHURCH. US SINNERS NOT HAVING SPOT OR WRINKLE. Mercy there was great and grace was free ,pardon there was multiplied to me, there my soul found liberty at CALVARY. GBU

what are the sings of comming of age

What seems unreal? Lots of nice people in here every day. Out where you clicked a link to come in here are a whole page of links to explore. Hang here a bit and who knows what happens next.

Welcome to you.

is this real?

what is the real meaning of vs 11a

How God looks like according to the Bible

Matthew 12:8

For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Matthew 12:32

And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the WORLD TO COME.

Matthew 16:13

When Jesus came...and asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?

Matthew 16:27

For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works (saved/unsaved)

Matthew 16:28

Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.

Revelation 1:13

And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Revelation 14:14

And I looked, and behold a white CLOUD, and upon the CLOUD one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Comment: Jesus is the Son of God. After he was born to Mary and Joseph, by the Power of the Holy Spirit; Jesus was then known as the Son of Man (as in Mankind).

He said it himself.

He is ALL son of God, and ALL son of man (human)

If you skip down to the last 2 verses, Jesus was seen by the Apostle John in a vision: as the Victorious Son of man about to put in His sickle and Reap the Harvest of souls.

One of his Names is Lord of the Harvest.

He's coming soon too. I mean no offense, but now is not a time to procrastinate and split scripture hairs over theologies of man, different Bibles, ancient UN-CANONIZED scripture.

Human history is about to wrap up. Write this book of scripture inside your Bible cover: 2 Peter Chapter 3. Have it handy.

The earth is already beginning to burn. It's not Global Warming; it's Almighty God!! He will PERFORM his Word.

I have heard John was blinded on the Ilse. I can find no record of it. Where does this come from?

This is incorrect there are vast amounts mossing. Some is part of the Revelation Cannon. Just thought I would let you know. Have a blessed day.

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God bless you Reverent in Christ

Those are a lot of questions. I recommend you read a freely available book called The Exposition of the Seven Church Ages. A quick internet search will get you the link. That book which is very well and clearly written talks about the first 3 chapters of Revelations, and answers your questions better than I could.

Peace and love in Jesus Christ

Who was this angel in Rev. chapter 1

Why was this message given to John.

Why must these things come to pass

What does "signified" Mean.

What does Jesus Christ mean.

What does "Bear record" mean

What is the testimony of Jesus

Who will be blessed by reading or hearing Revelations.

How often did the church read Revelations.

Who did John address to in verse 4 of chapter 1

What 2 blessings did he speak on them.

Who was these blessings from.

Who was this angel in Rev. chapter 1

Hi

Am very grateful for what the Lord is doing, please, I kindly request you to help me in prayer.

I have applied for a position in which we are three in.

Am all away from south Sudan

Thanks, Jesus loves you all

Just following up on the great Esau and Isaac discussion.

You can Google Esau's history, marriages, MAPS OF EDOM, where he moved to. Fact that his future had been within Palestinian cultures. Google Edom; Edomites

Saul and David fought wars against them.

If you are Student of modern day clashes between the Israelites and Palestinian, it's been going on for 2000+ years, till now.

A lot of people skim over the verse that says Esau purposed to murder Jacob as soon as Isaac died.

This explains all the bad blood boiling in Israel and Palestinian lands: because of THE COVENANT of the LAND, God gave to Abraham. Abraham made Covenant with Ishmael because he was the son born with Hagar the surrogate; who was Palestinian. His inheritance would be given to Isaac upon death.

THEN this jealousy replicates between the twin boys: Esau and Jacob. Esau was just going to kill him...BUT the bloodline of Jesus was through Jacob. Check genealogy; it's in the Bible.

You shouldn't throw pity parties for Esau. You should pray for Palestinians to be BORN AGAIN, ASAP!!! I looked at EDOMs history and it will blow your fuses. Only God can keep up with that.

This is the final battle that will be fought. Armageddon will happen as written. The only problem is the Russians want full access to sea ports, all the way to Africa. China wants a piece of that pie so they can sell their merchandise. Read of the New Silk Road they've completed. They're going to move in a million man army. I don't have enough room to continue this. We do know how it ends; prophesy students do. The sad thing is, that Joe Biden will try to force Israel to comply with plans Obama and he attempted, to fund the war between Israel and the signers of the ABRAHAMIC ACCORD. It's moving faster now. Pray! Pray!

Get your families & neighbors saved. Google how much money Obama's administ. Gave Iran. Follow the money.

Esau/Edom is Israel's enemy.

Mishael

Ashes to ashes dust to dust

My friend yes smoking is not good for the temple,

But cremation is not a sin

I have no clue why anyone would put that burden on someone.

So many brothers and sisters have been burned to death for their faith and they are going to have greater resurrection

So how is saying goodbye to a loved one in this way going to be a sin

This is crazy friend

I'll have to look at this further and make a video on it

Thank you for the comment

Wow I'm so blown away at what people say.

God bless you for being sensitive to the Holy Spirit

In watching over this vice

But God will get you through!

I'll agree with you as you leave this destructive habit behind and maybe dr. Axe has an idea for recovery from cigarettes

May Jesus bless you richly

We will Fear Him and not man strange doctrine

Seems as weird as in the book of acts where people teach that u must be circumcised to be saved lol oh my goodness

So many crazies out there

Blessings

2 Timothy Chapter 2

23 But foolish and unlearned questions AVOID, knowing that they do gender strifes.

24 And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient,

25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;

26 And that they may recover themselves out of the snare of the devil, who are taken captive by him at his will.

My Comment: We try patiently to show in scripture; commentaries by scholars; and our own testimonies: to answer questions that are brought to us.

We are answering the call in John 21:15-17.

Feed my Sheep. Feed my Lambs.

Ephesians 4:11

That's what we do, despite the accusations and opposition. Jesus did not say, go ye and persecute the Body of Christ.

Mishael

Wow. I have been reading through these comments. There seems to be a disagreement with meanings.

Let me run this by you all. Did you know that scripture, and it's meanings

are meaningless in some cases.Let me explain.

I was a missionaries kid. My parents took me to Papua New Guinea in 1963.

My father preached the gospel to the darkest of the dark hearts.

I witnessed a great moving of our lord

and the heathens of darkness came to the light of our lord. They were excited and wanted more of this lord.

Now, they did not have any books, or anything to guide them. They never heard of a Bible. They were saved from their sins by hearing my father preach the gospel to them.

They would shout and cry. They were filled with the spirit of our lord. And then they proceeded to learn about the Bible.