Revelation Chapter 11 Discussion Page 11

Olive trees and candlesticks and witnesses are all symbolic representing the same things. It is logical to think the witnesses are therefore not men but ideals. The witnesses are opposing sides of conflict that voice their opinions before God and man concerning rights to religion, laws and land. They are clothed in sackcloth meaning mourning over perceived injustice. They are the cause of World War 3 as shown in verse 5, they will kill for their beliefs. Today nations have the ability to manipulate weather but I think the ability to cause it not to rain means the ability to work out problems peacefully so that missiles and bombs do not rain from the sky. The beast that rises out of the bottomless pit is a nuclear weapon. Nuclear destruction can last for centuries. A nuclear bomb is not like the atomic bombs that were used in Japan. The areas around a nuclear blast can not be built upon and remain desolate because of fallout contamination, their destruction is bottomless meaning unmeasurable. They lie dead in the street is also symbolic meaning the time during which the peace treaty is on the table, the great city meaning conflict. The death of war is peace. People will rejoice when peace is declared and it will be shown on the news around the world. However, the peace treaty terms are not fair and the spirit of God, opposing beliefs in God, cause war to erupt once again and fighter jets take to the sky to fight for justice.

Correct translation in last part of verse is "their Lord was crucified ". This means their own Peter, the one crucified by Nero, upside down. They, Rome, deify men, and make them "as gods " to be worshiped and this is where preterist stumble, thinking the translation is "our Lord ". Preterism is a doctrine of Jesuit design to throw the focus of the Historicist view of the Pope 's role as Antichrist.

The "Two Witnesses " I 've heard so much as to who they might be. While in a recent class on Revelation whereby all the usual candidates were discussed, I was caused to consider by the Holy Spirit I believe that the witnesses may actually be Adam Eve, the first and perfect "man " God creating them "male and female " . They knew God most intimately, being created without sin. Adam Eve had a perfect relationship with the Creator. No wonder Satan hated them and wanted to destroy that relationship. So, who better to be His witnesses in Revelation than Adam and Eve. A clear example of what the relationship with God was intended to be. A clear condemnation of all this world has done to destroy God 's design via divorce, domestic abuse, homosexuality, lesbianism, etc. No wonder Satan hated Adam Eve. Although Satan thought the design was destroyed by sin, Adam and Eve may have been brought back again in Revelation to show an evil world the perfect union that man male female was destined to have with God. A union that can 't be destroyed as again proven by their appearance, apparent murder, and resurrection before the eyes of this evil generation. Let us never hinder what God 's Holy Spirit may teach us when reading His glorious word. Praise God!!!

Peter was not the ROCK ...Jesus was pointing to HIMSELF as he spoke to Peter about Peters confession that Jesus has the Word to eternal life. Jesus...pointing to Himself says to Peter..and Upon this Rock Jesus I will build my church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against etc....

No wonder Elijah came back from Heaven to earth as John De Baptist,these two prophets are those that was slain for the gospel of Jesus christ i.e Peter was the buldozer among the disciples because Jesus said to Peter that,He would build His church on him whom death nor hades cannot overcome. In all,i think Peter will be one of the two witnesses.

The two witnesses are described. oNe had power to pray and it did not rained and pray and it rained Elijah . the other candle stick has power to turn water into blood and plagues Moses Moses wss buried by God. elijah was raptured.It is a picture of the Rapture. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout ....The dead like Moses will rise first and those alive and remaining like Elijah will be caught up to be with THEM. It may even be the rapture ..The voice says come up Hiter ...Some say one is enoch he was old testament and was translated.But when did encoh turn water to blood and have power over plagues?

These two witnesses will be raptured in the cloud when the voice come up hither, just as in Rev. 4 1 come up hither for the Church to be raptured.God will then seath144,000 Jewish Evangelist to preach the gospel until Jesus returns in the second coming to set up His kingdom.

accarding to chapter 11 the two witnesses are not any person but two witnesses are two testament of holy bible old and new .because they are the witnesses of God which still standing in front of earthly god devil see zak 4 john 5 29

Tasha. Verse 11 means that the Spirit of life from GOD will enter the two witnesses that lay dead in front of everyone. The will be raised from the dead just as Christ did. The people that see this will be paralyzed with fear. The word fear in the greek means "epipipto " which means a PARALYZING FEAR that comes over them. They are so full of fear because are starting to realize that they have been deceived.

I am am still learning about this, but could the two witnesses be angels?

God, Yahweh is well aware of what happened to the temple in Jerusalem Destroyed Defamed , but here, and as yet,the Holy Spirit hasn 't shared enough to put it properly, but I think that this Ark,is not the saviour of animals and a few men, but it is Jesus, the saviour of the world, who when crucified, caused the drapes to give way to the holy of holies in the temple, opening the direct dialogue to God the Father and His Son, Jesus, the Saviour to the entire world, and that through the gentile church, all mankind will, through this very ark, find salvation forever. Maybe the lightnings and associated thunderings are the celebratory announcements from the heavenly realm, while the earthquake and hail are cleansing mechanisms. As I said, this is just a "spur of the moment " thought...prayer to follow! Jim

Notice in the verse "standing " is the clue to who might be the 2 witnesses. They are most likely John the Baptist spirit of Elijah Matt. 11 14 and Elisha 1 King 17 1 18 15 2 King 3 14 . Notice they stand by the Lord of the whole Earth. They will prophesy for 1,260 days wearing sackcloth, representing mourning. Other possible witnesses are Moses, Enoch and James the brother of John.

What does revaluation 11 11 mean in the bible

I 've always been confused on the two witnesses. I was always taught that it 's two men who haven 't died yet, however in the first chapter of Revelation, it specifically says what candlesticks are. Has the meaning changed once we get to chapter 11? Revelation 1 20 states "and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. " And as we know, there 's issues with most of them. So wouldn 't this mean that the two candlesticks are two churches and the two olive trees is obviously Israel? Also, doesn 't sackcloth represent persecution?

I have just realised, the beast doesn 't come out of the womb of a woman, as in, he isn 't a normal person. The antichrist, the beast, the son of perdition came from the bottomless pit. Also look at Revelation 17 8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is. To conclude, I don 't think that the beast is just a normal person. I mean, look at other things that come out of the bottomless pit Revelation 9 2 3 2 And he opened the bottomless pit and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. 3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. The beast is something else. I hope that helps someone.

Gilbert C O Daminagbo s Revelation 11 18 and should destroy those who destry the earth The earth here refers to human beings who destroy their bodies and the Demons that also contributed to this for we are the temple of God and anyone who destroy his or her body God will destroy I don t know how you come to this conclusion because the word body is used many times in the bible so if it was meant to say body and not earth it would As in Daniel Daniel 7 11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horne spake I beheld euen till the beast was slaine and his body destroyed and giuen to the burning flame Why would it be talking about earthquakes and so on if it doesn t relate to the earth

In Mathew Henry s comments the period of time is 1260 days NOT years

Revelation 11 5 And if any man will hurt them fire proceedeth out of their mouth and devoureth their enemies and if any man will hurt them he must in this manner be killed the fire proceeds from the mouths of them who wish to hurt the two witnesses and not from the two prophets mouths in this they of the abyss burn themselves and die note the Antichrist kills them in the streets however he will be burned latter when Jesus comes

I feel the two witnesses are the the law and the prophets you will notice in this chapter it speaks of not measuring the courts without for its giving to the gentiles for a time times and a half time or 31 2 years or 1260 scores days this would be the first half under the law and the second is yet to come under grace Read the next chapter this will give you something to think on please excuse my spelling I have been out of school for almost 50 years May God bless

Timothy satan is the prince god of this world not of Earth

I don't understand. It says standing before the God of Earth. That would be Satan right? 1 John 5:19

The two witnesses are Old and New Testament, which are still preaching to us today.

Revelation 11:18 ... and should destroy those who destry the earth. The earth here refers to human beings who destroy their bodies and the Demons that also contributed to this for we are the temple of God and anyone who destroy his or her body God will destroy.

REVELATION 11:18 ....and should destroy those who destroy the earth. THIS VERSE CAN BE USED LEXICALLY AND CONNOTATIVELY i.e THE PHYSICAL EARTH BEING DESTROYED AND THE HUMAN BODY OR TEMPLE BEING USED TO COMMIT SIN.ANYONE THAT DESTROYS HIS BODY BY USING IT TO COMMIT SIN WILL BE DESTROYED INCLUDING GIVING IT TO THE DEVIL AND ALLOWING IT TO BE INHABITED BY DEMONS.

This scripture shows that God takes how the earth is treated personally. He says that he will destroy those who destroy the earth. We should take this warning seriously and treat the earth with respect.

i feel the two witnesses are Elijah and Moses.
check malachi chapter 4.Also, in the transfiguration, Christ met with Moses and Elijah. Finally, the discription of the two witnesses in verses 5-6 are supportive of this fact. Let us always pray to God for the Holy Spirit to interprete God's word to us.

The world is easily swayed by only what is seen..
Look carefully and you will find that only the gospel of Matthew and John is really valid. These are the two olive trees because they bear the fruit of the Word.
The other two are 'candlesticks' that actually 'burn out' and are false.These gospels are not of the appointed and handpicked apostles.
Nobody is really seen to challenge the 'church', yet we have to wonder what their great secrets are.The truths are revealed to the nameless, but only great theologians determine what m***es may see. It is true ..many weeds are found in the fields also, even in what the largest part of the world is told is 'the truth'.
God is very smart, and the scriptures do tell all, even of its desecration.

many would pray that they are one of the witnesses, but the task of the two is so extreme that the severity of their coming duty will include great persecution. They are trained by the Holy Spirit for this task. Be a witness, is what one should do. To be one of his "My Two Witnesses" is not a call we could make on our own.

According to the following texts: Gen 8:1 and 1 Thess. 4:16-17, there is no way man can, or certainly will not be permitted to destroy the earth completely. The seasons will continue, and people will be alive on the earth when Jesus touches down for His Second Coming. This does not however stop mankind form trying (through greed, malicious or destructive acts) and they will certainly pay for their reckless behavior. And behold I come quickly and my reward is with me to give every man according as his work shall be - Rev 22:12.

To Clear everyone’s confusion, The anti-Christ is the United States of America. And I am in America. The two candle Stick is in Africa for now. To let you know, everyone that resides in the United States has Already received the mark of the beast. If I tell you the truth would you believe me? No. Know it that you cannot fight GOD. The Angels of Revelations 10 and 11 came down from heaven about three years ago. Our LORD Jesus Christ came down to give me power, knowledge and wisdom Around September 2011. Two other Angels came down on Sunday 20th October 2012 a week before super storm (hurricane sandy). I have been in and out of prison. I don’t want to continue for now. Remember days of "Noah, and Lot." The Catholic is not the Antichrist. I am a Catholic and the Two Candle stick is Catholic.