Revelation Chapter 11 Discussion Page 7

When the "times of the Gentiles" are fulfilled, verse11, our Lord will send the Holy Spirit to gather the elect of GOD. They shall ascend up to heaven in a cloud, verse 12, while those who have rejected our Lord look on. They will be taken out of harms way when the judgment of GOD falls on those who remain. This is called the rapture by many.

In verses 8,9, the dead bodies lying in our streets are the 2 Testaments of the Bible. These are the 2 witnesses that we have silenced but not yet fully removed from our sight. Those who follow the teachings of the Bible are mocked and scorned. Most of us follow our own ways and rejoice in our freedom from rules and boundaries. No god, no rules so we all do that which is right in our own eyes.

Our Lord said in Matt. 24:36 that no man can know when the end comes. So 1260 may not be a number. It could be a code. 1 means GOD, " Gal. 3:20 GOD is one." 2 means Jesus, because 12 means governmental perfection. 6 means man. O means ordinal perfection. So 1260 could mean GOD and our Lord Jesus will bring governmental perfection to earth and will rule and reign over man in GOD'S perfect timing.

Others have tried to solve the 1260 end of days controversy since the establishment of the state of Israel with similar results. Only GOD knows when the end will come. Has humanity reached an intolerable level of corruption in his eyes that only his final judgment of death and destruction of man and his idols can cleanse this world? Only GOD decides.

There is no common understanding of what 1260 means. Isaac Newton, the greatest mathematician that ever lived, tried to solve when the end of the world will come calculating from various events in Israel's history but could not come up with a specific time. He decided on 2060 but admitted that the end of days could come sooner than this or later. He proved that there is no one that can know.

The 3 and a half days of verse 9 are 3 and a half years based on the Jewish calendar where each month has 30 days. So 12x30 equals 360x3 equals 1080 plus one half year which is 180. So 1080 plus 180 equals 1260 or the times of the Gentiles written of in Luke 21:24. It is also in verse 2 written as 42 months, 42x30 equals 1260 and in verse 3 and in 12:14 as a time, and times, and half a time.

The 3 1 2 days of verse 9 are 3 1 2 years based on the Jewish calendar where each month has 30 days. 12x30 360x3 1080 1 2 year which is 180. 1080 180 1260 or the times of the Gentiles written of in Luke 21:24. Many believe the domination of the Gentiles over Israel and Jerusalem ended in 1948 when Israel became a nation but the Dome of the Rock still stands on the Temple Mount. The key to the end?

The 2 witnesses, Old and New Testaments, now lie dead in our streets. The 10 commandments and the cross of Christ are removed from our sight. Only in our churches are the promises of our faith still heard and many of them are empty. Our cities are now spiritually called Sodom where sexual perversions were practiced and Egypt which was given to idolatry. We are Sodom and Egypt. We worship things.

The bottomless pit is the dark depths of man's evil practices. The Word of God 2 witnesses is in direct opposition to the designs of evil men. Those who taught the Word of God were subject to severe persecution and death at the hands of these men. This is the war that is waged against the righteous. It is the war that continues to this day. Christians around the world are killed for their faith.

"7 the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit" is Babylon. It isn't the Babylon of long ago that was destroyed. It's the Babylon of today that is very real and thriving. The definition of Babylon is a city devoted to materialism and sensual pleasures which describes cities today. The Babylon of long ago may have been destroyed but it still lives on in the greed and evil practices of men.

The Old Testament was written by the prophets of GOD and his servants to teach his laws and judgments to all the generations of men. "7 And when they shall have finished their testimony" or witness of GOD'S supreme power, it's time to hear from the 2nd witness. The voices of the 2nd witness or New Testament are John the Baptist, the apostles and our Lord Jesus.

Our LORD used his prophet Moses to bring his plagues of judgment against Egypt. His 1st plague was to turn the waters of Egypt to blood- Ex.7:19. GOD brought 9 other plagues against Egypt before they finally freed the Hebrews from their bondage-Ex.8-12. The prophets are the witnesses of GOD that he will bring his plagues of judgment against all, whether man or nation who refuse to follow his laws.

The two witnesses are Moses and Elijah.

Elijah prophesied in " 1 Kings 17:1 As the LORD God of Israel liveth, before whom I stand, there shall not be dew nor rain these years, but according to my word." After 3 years, the word of GOD came to Elijah, "18:1 Go, shew thyself unto Ahab and I will send rain upon the earth." This is the prophet Elijah witnessing that GOD controls the weather and can use it to bless or punish men.

"Is. 30:30 And the LORD shall cause his glorious voice to be heard, and shall shew the lighting down his arm, with the indignation of his anger, and with the flame of devouring fire, with scattering, and tempest, and hailstones." "Is. 33:14 Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire? who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings? 15 He that walketh righteously, and speaketh uprightly.

"5 And if any man will hurt them, fire proceedeth out of their mouth, and devoureth their enemies." This is the continuing personification of God's 2 witnesses or testaments of the Bible. The fire that proceeds out of their mouths is the fulfillment of the warnings not heeded and the finality of judgment as written in the Word of God.

The 2 olive trees in verse 4 were also prophesied of in Zech.4. In Zech. 4:12, it speaks of the golden oil which empties out of them. The oil is that which gives light or knowledge which is the word of God. The 2 olive trees also called the 2 candlesticks are the 2 churches or faiths - Judaism and Christianity- from which we get the golden oil or word of God. These are the 2 witnesses.

In Matt. 24:14, Lord Jesus told his disciples that the gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations and then shall the end come. In John 12:48, Jesus said the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge us in the last day. The 2 testaments of the Bible are the 2 witnesses for or against us depending on if we follow its teachings or not.

The 2 witnesses are not just 2 prophets but all of them. In Deut. 31:26, Moses was instructed to write the God inspired book of the law and put it in the arc of the covenant "that it may be there for a witness against thee" or against all who break the laws of God.

I believe by the spirit of truth the two witnesses are the 144,000 sons of God that come in the spirit and power of Enoch and Elijah .Shalom

The definition of capital is a city or town that is the official seat of government. David established Jerusalem as the city he would rule all Israel from ( 2 Sam. 5). In Zech. 1:16-17, our Lord says he will choose Jerusalem. This is confirmed in Rev. 21:2-3. It is the new Jerusalem from which our God will rule and reign over all mankind.

Where in the bible is Jerusalem established as The Capital of Israel?

the born again gentiles.eventually the born again jews, two witnesses.

The two witnesses: It could be Moses and Elijah or one could be Enoch or anyone. It could be you and I. I would'nt mind being one of them. It don't really matter who they are. They come to give mankind one last warning. Every eye will see them. This was not possible when this was written. But it is very possible now with TV, cell phones and the internet.

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Ok spoiler alert John the baptist is Elijah Jesus said it look at Matthew 11:14 And if ye will receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come. so you see Elijah did die as John his head was chopped off. that said at the mount Moses and Elijah were there and witnessed God the Father say matt 17:5 This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.(The two witneses)

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Elijah and Moses preaching to the faithless in the streets, wearing sackcloth, the garments of repentance. Their slain bodies rotting in the sun as the people rejoiced! "These tormented the people with the truth!" But God's will be done and these two were resurrected and summoned to Zion, to the throne of our God, blessed be he. These Jewish prophets received glory and honor for doing His will