Revelation Chapter 12 Discussion Page 17

Mary , maybe you should re read the Bible .

Thank you! Since scripture doesn't support it maybe it has more to do with current cultural social justice efforts pushing it and less about scripture evidence.

Mary rev 12 the only "evidence" the black hebrews have is the slavery thing
every race has been in slavery even Chinese in Shanghai.
1 Samuel 17:42 - And when Goliath the Philistine looked about, and saw
David, he disdained him: for he was but a youth, and ruddy, and of a fair
countenance.

fair countenance = fair complexion (Webster 1828 Dictionary) BLACK is not fair complexion
Ruddy = healthy reddish color, a ruddy complexion
ie rosy red blush the Irish ruddy.
Song of Solomon 5:10 - My beloved is WHITE and ruddy, the chiefest among ten thousand.
Lamentations 4:7 - Her Nazarites were purer than snow, they
were WHITER whiter than milk, they were more ruddy in body than rubies,...

There seems to be a group of people claiming Israelites were black, but from my understanding Israelites then are the same color as the Israelites today, middle eastern, medium shade, with olive skin, of course depending on how much time they spend in the sun. In Jesus' day they walked a lot and likely were quite dark, but what scriptural evidence do people use to think they were black like Africans?

Jesus said that these things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto babes and sucklings ( th woman's children ) Even isaiah spoke of the weaned child and the sucking child they shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain means in the spiritual realm the israel of God. All these mysteries come out in Rev. 12 with the woman and her children which is US we are gona travail in birth pains via the words/seeds of the Book.Thats y the new birth is so important its simply the way he will bring in the kingdom which is the H.G. OUR NEW INNERMAN WHICH IS REALLY THE NEW EARTH AND NEW HEAVEN. B/C I HAVE SPOKEN THESE WORDS SEEDS SORROWS HAVE FILLED YOUR HEARTS A SPRITUAL PREGNANCY GBU.

It is important to understand that through prayer and supplication for the church ,Christs kingdom will prevail through faith in the beloved savior. Men's hearts will in some cases fail, while others will prevail. Heaven and earth shall not pas away till all things be fulfilled. The church that preaches any other gospel outside of Christ death and resurrection, will add nothing to the extension of the kingdom of God, but will in fact, accelerate the final judgment of His church. Any other gospel is Idol worship,if there be any other gospel let him be accursed. God is not a respecter of persons! The word in the Garden"What has thou done"?

We are the woman and the woman is US humanity ,When Isaiah saw the kingdom coming he said unto US A CHILD is born unto US a son is given meaning we are gonna birth our king the manchild thats y he calls himself the son of man. 27 times in the O.T. the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains But Isaiah is very bold and says unto US a child is born unto US a son is given which is the essence of the new birth THE MANCHILD. Thus truly the real new birth is the 2 nd coming the kingdom did not come with the 1st church. It comes with the 2 nd advent .Remember the 2 nd wine was the best wine, ran out of the 1st wine, the 3 r day he made the best wine simply b/c the 3 rd day is marriage

There is so much to see in this rev 12 This goes all the way back to Gen. 3 v 15 this heavenly child is the woman's seed that is gonna crush satans head which is our carnal minds the very enemy of God Let this mind be in you that was in christ jesus. Thus the kingdom is coming to the woman via the good SEED th WORD the contents of the BOOK th seeds of the sower thy Kingdom come etc.the woman is humanity God so loved the WORLD etc. ya gotta realize there is a war going on in the spritual realm we are the woman and her child is the H.G. our new heart and new spirit the promise children that are gonna rule all nations simply b/c he is gonna be born in us via that good seed th WORD TH NEW BIRTH.

Chapter 12 Verse 9 future event Michael kicks Satan to earth when the order is given and 2 Thess 2 Satan stands up in Jerusalem claiming to be God and that's what people should know about so they don't get caught up in the deception. We have been told in Revelation 9 that his time here is 5 months and then the 7 th trump blows. Think and read Gods word and don't fall for deceptions. Listen to God.

Man Child-IS CHRIST;WOMAN is MARY&ISRAEL NATION;HER SEED-faithful believers in Christ;EAGLE WINGS-GOD'S GRACE&HOLY GHOST;DRAGON-satan & his agents(Herode/The antichrist-666,)FLOOD-Herode's order to kill male children at Christ birth in Judah,Gentiles' strong hatred towards jews & God's Law-people, persecution of the church after Pentecost/during the dark ages by romans/papacy(1260days/yrs),the very last persecution just at Christ's 2nd coming,false doctrine rejecting 10 commandments and changing sabbath;WILDERNESS-Egypt where Christ was hid from Herode, The mountains&caves where the waldenses&believers hid from papacy in the dark ages,God's safe places to hide his people during persecution 1

Rev 13 I find it that this verse is referring to the number of the beast or genealogy of a man whom God placed a mark upon so that his seed would endureth to the end of time. 666 is an evil man, the 1st murderer, deceiver and liar who bears the mark of his father, the devil, and the number of his name the son of perdition.........Cain

In the book of Job ,Satan wants to deceive. He will try and take Job down and his believers down, by any means.God promises that Believers will be accounted for in the front lines of faith. We war not against flesh and blood but spiritual darkness. God has given us all the necessary tools. Ephesians 6:10-17 The birth of Christ,the fulfillment of his death and resurrection,and salvation of mankind will crush the head of the adversary. Luke 9;23 take up your cross, and follow him. Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.

In the Bible there only 2 Angels that are name. Michael & Gabriel correct me if I am wrong. Of course satan I believe was also a created Angel. Through out the Bible, Revelation through Genesis, there are numerous Bible characters who have no name. For example Messenger of Malachi 3 and King of Psalm 21. If a man who fears God encounters his destiny has a fork in the road. One ignoring the Bible, the other prophesying The Everlasting Gospel from Revelation to ?Genesis. Who is to say which road he should follow ? Could it be The Holy Spirit who guides him from there on ?

Satan was with GOD in the creation, and he deceived the woman and the man didn't question the decision to eat of the forbidden fruit, where by they both fail the test of obedience to God. Satan's actions of deception of GOD's instruction and other act's far removed him from ever receiving a parton, thereby he made himself ineligible to receive another chance to live in GOD's Kingdom. In your question you answered; the the question (if he repent) to repent would mean he did wrong.

Revelation 13:8 Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666. Question: When confronted with his destiny if he repented. Would The Lord forgive him and assign him another role in The Everlasting Gospel ?

The woman is the church, not Mary.

The Woman is Mary...no argument about that.

I think the woman is the church today, the child , the "man child", is birthed from the church, a mature son or woman of God, Satan the dragon has been in the 2nd heaven since he was cast out of heaven the first time, but now he will be thrown out forever. He goes after the remanant, the one's born out the church, the overcomers, 100 's . Those who know their God, and keep His words and have His testimony , by His blood will overcome, rule with a rod of iron Rev 2:27. The church goes into a place where she is cared for, because she is of no effect in these dangerous times.

Serve in spirit and in truth, seek the will of the Father as Jesus sought only the Fathers will. Trust and obey.Live by faith not by sight.Faith without works is dead, just like the body without the spirit is dead. Love the Lord God with all your heart,all your soul and all your mind.walk by the Spirit and not the flesh.Put on the full armor of God. Draw close to God and He will draw close to you.

This rev 12 v 10 is telling us the kingdom, Real Salvation etc will NOT come till the woman births the manchild which is the H.G. Scripture tells us the H.G is th kingdom,Thus it will be with in us.The book sealed with the 7 seals is the New Covenant contains the words of life meaning the seeds of the sower that are gonna be sown with n us initiating a birth of Christ in us th SON OF MAN OUR FRUIT

See verses: Rom 3:23, Rom 6:23, Heb 9:27 Not by any good works of your own: Eph 2:8-9, Rom 4:5, Rom 10:3-4 Jesus Christ did it all! John 14:6, Acts 14:12 His precious blood was shed for you! Col.1:14, Rev 1:5, Acts:20:28,1 Pet.1:18-9.You must believe it,ask Jesus to save you and receive it. Rom10:9-13 He will do it! Then find a KJV only church and speak with the pastor about your next steps.

John 3:16

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Walter is correct. Paul is your Apostle to the Gentiles appointed by Christ, revealed taught by Him, sent to us who would Believe In On Him. Instructions Romans through Philemon. 2 Programs one of which has been on hold soon reopened. 1.Body of Christ Believers Heavenly 2.The Jew, earthly The Kingdom of David where Christ will sit on His rightful throne Redeeming heaven earth. 2 Tim 2:15

Loved verse 11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto death.

Rev 12 ,the woman is the world,jesus said the field was the world where that good seed wd be sown,her child is th h.g. as jesus said that which is born of the spirit is spirit,she is the best example of the heavenly birth as her child is the kingdom of god unless you receive the kingdom as a lil child etc. when isaiah saw the kingdom coming he said unto us a child is born unto us a son is given.gb

Rev12: 4 the powerful people who connive with the Antichrist they conspired to bring the wrong doctrine. Until the time of Martin Luther Christian where able to be out . 8 the dragon was defeated by michael and the Bible was available to everyone but the true doctrine is out. But in 1964 the church is once again back in the wilderness when the Catholic Church and so called Christian join again.

Read and study Gods word. The instructions are all there: how to serve and how to bow the knee and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Try starting with John 3:16 and go from there.

Faith: I placed my faith in, job, car, chair, kinfolks, 401k, IRA, credit card, friends, twenty dollar bill, social services programs, and non of these can keep me out of hell. So, I placed my FAITH in GOD according to HIS word in John 3:16-21, because HE promised to SAVE me. Now saved, daily by and through the POWER of GOD I serve by being obedient to the words of GOD.

Shanice jules: 1 Accept Jesus as your personal savior, we should get on our knees and pray and ask for the forgiveness of our sins and invite Jesus to come in to your heart. 1 Thess 5:17 Pray without ceasing 2 John 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments. We serve God by being obedient to His law 10 commandments 1 John 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep His commandments.