Revelation Chapter 12 Discussion Page 22

REV 12-18...Their was a comment posted on 3-5-2015, that has my name or post initials posted at 04:58 am, that is not mine, someone else has posted it using my initials RNM, I suppose with the intent of putting me in a bad light, theirs all kind in this world, but what is curious to me as why didn 't the screeners pick up on it? Anyway I wanted everyone to know it was not my post. tkx. PRAISE OUR GREAT HEVENLY FATHER AND HIS HOLY SON YESHUA. AMEN!!

You predicted the coming of Jesus?? You need Jesus, if you don 't believe me, go on your knees and ask God to reveal himself to you, in JESUS name, if you get an answer that isn 't in his word, it 's wrong!!

Revelation 11 teaches us that the battle between good and evil is an ancient one that started in heaven and extended to our planet earth engulfing our existence as humans in a spiritual battle. We do well to follow Christ Jesus if we are to be saved from Satan 's deceit.

REV 12-15...Verse 17, is referring to Sabbath 7th day keepers, when it describes the Remnant it cant be talking about anyone else because these are the only people on Earth that keep all the Commandments of God, and have the Testimony of Jesus Christ. Its always been the majority that observed a different Sabbath day, going back to the destruction of Jerusalem,and the conspiracy of the sorcerer, Simon the Magus infiltrating the early church in Rome in the personage of Simon Peter the true Apostle of Christ, and blending Christ 's teaching with the Babylonian Mystery Religion of Mithraism which is the worship of the Sun god or Sun-day worship. which is carried on today by one half of the World Population. Which a hundred or even fifty years ago it would have been understandable that satan could have pulled off this massive deception, but not today with our age of information and the easy access to it, their is no excuse, if you apply just a small amount of effort to find out the truth, the fact is, you don 't want to know the truth, because once you do you would be set at odds with family and friends, and your social clicks, and you are just to comfortable to give that up. AMEN!!

REV 12-13...In verse 17, you can read,...And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, WHICH KEEP THE COMMANDMENTS OF GOD, AND HAVE THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST. So logically those today that have the testimony of JESUS should be keeping all ten of the original Commandments, not a watered down version, man has no authority to change or modify God Laws. PRAISE GOD, PRAISE HIS SON AMEN!!

It 's unreal but I learn a lot

As you see in 7 and 8 Michael kicks Satan out and 9 to earth. What will Satan do? Deceives the whole world! And what is the deception? satan looks like the Lamb of God and he has powers but he speaks like the dragon. Instead of Christ coming as Christ but it 's the dragon. We know he makes fools out of the world and that 's them who are deceived. I would say rapture chickens first cause they look for the easy way already. The the Muslims cause antichrist can bring lighting down and they love power. All the religions that beg on t.v. Will fall for him cause he wants to pay their bills.

3.Second wonder sign the dragon Satan and his position set up as a political structure call it his procedure for an attempted takeover of God 's throne and he steals a third of Gods children who become his followers. So we have two signs one good and one bad. Two Christ one good and one bad. Christ and anti christ which translated is instead of Christ and he is coming first to earth at the 6 seal 6 vial and 6 trump as instead of Christ. But focus on the first seal of method of operation that he comes on a white horse looks just like Jesus with a crown and bow like Christ but check out the crown and bow and they are immatation fakes. We know Satan always wanted to be the King he took on the name Lucifer which translates morning star but we know who the real Morning Star is our Lord Jesus and we know Christ Jesus comes only once and that is at the 7th trump.

Revelation 12 explains to us the nature of the true church of God.The church under the emblem of a woman, shows the remnant church of God on earth. The characteristics of the true church of God are said in verse 17 of this chapter that they keep the commandments of God and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.And so the dragon is making war with the remnant of her seed so as to ensure that no generation of the woman remains. But as we always know that our God is never a failure, He ends up winning.

We the true believers in Christ Jesus, the Son of God, are made new creatures and have overcome satan by our testimonies. We must not return to our old ways, because if we do, we will die spiritually and lose our freely given salvation. It is highly important to cling to our deliverance and not turn back into a life of sin. Because sin is death to those that have overcome.To love the things of the flesh and not live in obedience to the words of Christ Jesus is death.

The devil is defeated long ago, his under our feet. In all this we are more than conquerors in Christ Jesus. Halleluiah

Till every Christian follow and obey fully the Revelation 12 11, Satan and his host will try to find some or other try to defeat the believers.

LET ME QUICKLY COMMENT ON THIS NIGEL MCMILLAN 's. if Mary never did, then the dragon never did too! and who is arguing with you that she was Mary now?

The other key to this verse they did not love their lives even unto death is the true faith that has been tested in fire which I battle with every day laying down my life for his will not mine You 're brother in Christ Michael

The woman is Israel and The child brought forth is none other than the Lord Jesus Christ. You see that in verse 5 where it says "And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. " It is the Lord who is going to come back and rule all nations from Jerusalem after the great tribulation.

i believe it is literal and speaking about seperate child that is born in the time of the end i believe the man child struck the beast on the head and michael cast satan out and was caught up to heaven to see god and witness heaven and and gods works hince who has heard such things who has seen such things

The note on Rev 12 1 in a study bible I own reads "12 1 The number twelve suggests that the woman represents God 's people cp. 12 15 17 see Jer 2 32 2 Cor 11 2 Eph 5 32 , from whom came the Messiah. This woman is marked by God 's glory in contrast with the prostitute see 17 1 6 , who is destined for destruction. "

Powerful passage for sure!! God has shown me that most understand the blood of the Lamb, but leave out the power of the testimony?? We at best get up and give a good sermon, yet the alters remain barren?? Would love to have at least on person be allowed more than 2 minutes to share how God has transformed their lives. Chances are someone if not many will recieve hope from this!! 1 Peter 3 15 Respectfully yours, Benjamin Gonzales

The lord revealed to me , the highest sacrifice ever made that nullifies and lenders other sacrifices powerless whether past ,present,or future is the blood of jesus and the word of their testimony emanates from abiding with the revealed word of God, when you obey rhema you walk daily with God in obedience. Having done the said the devil will try by all means to torture your life. But be of good cheer for Jesus has overcome.

With respect to the views of others who have commented here I must respectively disagree. We must remember that no scripture is open to our personal interpretation. This scripture must be compared with others and the whole context of the scene examined. Woman in prophecy is always represented as a 'church ' which in this verse the church has the real light surrounding her. This woman is God 's true church and not Marry as when we read on reveals that she fled into the wilderness, something Marry never did , however God 's true church did under Roman persecution which is to repeat itself in the future. Another woman was also mentioned, which is a false church clothed with artificial light. Verse 17 Reveals the true church which is perused by the Dragon keeps the ten commandments and has the testimony of Jesus Christ. REV 19 10 tells us the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.

The 1 3 part of the stars in chapter 4 is us, you and me. Satans and his angels were cast out with him by Micheal in 12 9.

How can so many educated people be so wrong? read and re read the Good Book you will come to the conclusion that it is indeed talking about those fallen ones 3rd part? Unmistakable makes you wonder are these people deliberately giving false info or is it the spirit of the beast?

I tell you the truth The woman represents Gods people who are faithful and not conformed to worldly things. The crown is the 12 tribes of Israel. The Great Dragon was the monarchies that formed the Roman Empire, and the tail of the dragon was the military might of the empire. It standing before the woman was King Herod and the slaughter of innocence. The birth was the messiah, Jesus Christ and the resurrection meaning he went to God alive. Because of the resurrection Satan lost his right to accuse men before the throne of God. Thus he rebelled against God and was cast out on to the earth. So he no longer has the right to accuse, and he no longer has the right to come and go between heaven and earth because of the resurrection of Jesus Christ who paid for our sins. Now cast out, he uses the monarchies and the empire to persecute the Jewish people and the newly formed Christians. As a new era comes and the empire of Rome transforms to the European Monarchy, it will hand its authority to a new beast rising up out of the sea America.

It is very inspiring especially when you are going through tribulations.

REV 12 WHEN KICKED OUT SATAN DECIEVES THE WHOLE WORLD AND IN REV 13 HE LOOKS LIKE THE LAMB BUT SPEAKS AS A DRAGON. HIS WEAPON IS HIS MOUTH THAT HAS THREE FROGS, SPIRTTS OF EVIL, LIES, HE IS THAT FIRST SEAL A FAKE CROWN AND BOW SPEAKING LIES AND THE WORLD BELIEVES HIM AND FOLLOWS HIM. DON 'T FOLLOW SATAN JUST BECAUSE HE LOOKS LIKE JESUS AND SAYS HE IS AND CAN BRING LIGHTNING FROM THE SKY AND DON 'T BUY OR SALE FOR 2 AND A HALF MONTHS WHEN HE GETS HERE.

The tail of the great red dragon and the head of the Head of the church is identified in Isaiah. Isaiah 9 15 KJV ... The ancient and honourable, he is the head and the prophet that teacheth lies, he is the tail. Jesus Christ is the ancient of days, head of the church and the false prophets are the tail of the dragon!

I was taught that after the war in heaven Lucifer Satan along with a host of angels perhaps 1 3rd was cast out of heaven and exiled to a place of utter desolation Is this accurate If so where does it fit into the story of creation and the Garden of Eden

revelation is about the end times not about past events verse one will take place on Sept 22 or 23 2017 and the planets and other stars are involved Virgo will give birth to Jupiter and there is a red dragon constellation at her feet verse 14 could be about the rest of the church after the rapture of the elite whom the Lord will nourish in the wilderness for 1230 days

September 12 3 B C John is giving the date of Jesus birth Just after sunrise in Israel looking East into the Sun is Virgo the Woman virgin the Moon is at her feet and there is a conjunction of Regulus King of Stars and Jupiter King of Planets above her head in Leo Judah For does not the heavens declare the glory of God

The woman could possibly represent Mary giving birth to a son JESUS(verse 5) , who is destined to to rule all nations with an iron rod. It then sounds like God prepared a place for her for quite a few days.