Revelation Chapter 12 Discussion Page 6

Amen...I agree wholeheartedly. I believe these attacks came at my most vulnerable season of my life!

That is my daily prayer to ask God to give me clarity in this trial and I pray and don't believe I have made anything idol before God because I am always conscious, but not perfect. If there is anything unacceptable or unpleasing to God, I ask Him to show me and cleanse me!

Thanks

Satan's power

Satan's power in the Mind Of Man is limited to the lies and deceptions that he can get us to believe. If we are on guard for the enemy's attacks and if we refuse to let any of the enemy's lies and deceptions remain in our mind, then Satan has no power over us. If we, both Christian and non-Christian, permit Satan to build false strongholds in OUR MIND, he gains considerable power over us, and the sad part of deception is that it is very hard for the person who is deceived to believe that they are deceived, so start early casting out the enemy's fiery darts of thoughts before they grow into deceptions and the deceptions grow into a stronghold. Ephesians 6

Tearing down strongholds:

For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ ( 2 Corinthians 10:4-5). This verse says a great deal. We have weapons, we are in warfare, our war is not against our loved ones, but against the devil. We are told that it is our war and "we" are to initiate the attack, not God. And our weapons are not of this world, but are God's "divine power" and authority to use God's power to destroy the devil's strongholds and arguments in a person, so that the light of the truth may come in.

Take up the sword of the Word and in His divine power, tear down those strongholds. Jesus said to His disciples, and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free ( John 8:32).

From me: it's ok to get hopping mad at Satan and launch some heavy scriptures at Him. Resist the Devil and he must flee!!

Cast out the demons into outer darkness and the ask God if you can have angelic support? Make sure your home is "idol free". Ask the Holy Spirit to do a walk through with you. I'll be in the Questions Room. Mishael

No matter how hard we try we can never stop sinning even as Christians we still have our old nature to deal with but with Christ's help we can overcome sin.

Romans 3:23, FOR ALL have sinned and come short of the Glory of God.

There is none righteous; no not one.

Everyone in here is a sinner saved by GRACE.

You need to ask God to wipe all those memories from your brain. Finally you will have rest from Satans accusations.

I have a testimony as you will have; but I do not experience daily shame for things I did. I thought satan was a guy in a red rented costume. I was the big astrologer! Who took drugs and enough alcohol to float a ship. I didn't know how close to hell I was.

My Past is hid in Christ now. It has no more power over me. Only Peace.

Just ask Jesus to deliver you from those memories, fully. Then give your testimony to Jesus to use as He Wills.

You will be free finally and forever. Everything on your account ledger in Gods Book will only show your name next to Jesus's Blood.

Do it today.

Mishael

David.

How do you distinguish your "choice" to not sin as different from you're having a hand in salvation? You are in essence able to take credit for your salvation because you have a power to obey or not! Yes or no?

I feel like you're taking alot of liberty with the tenses of the word, specifically with Paul in Romans.

Let me be clear I do not condone a life of sin and if a professing believer is walking in a way that is in contradiction to The Way, then they ought be cognizant of their potential jeopardy and proving themselves deceived.

A few thougts,

The Just Judge will judge rightly.

Whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

If a person walks away from their active relationship with The Lord because they do not want to be luke warm, is that not an act of faith?

Continued:

I walked away in accordance with our Lord's imperative to rather be "hot or cold" and not lukewarm.

What pain. What sorrow I have caused in the 24 some years since I first "walked away" from my faith.

Today I have been through alot. Too much tbh. But His Grace is sufficient for me. I have strong desire to walk in righteousness and please The Master Potter. To allow Him to work out the Christian life through me.

But my journey (which included learning of the "doctrine of eternal security" in my 20's via Calvary Chapel and Fundamental Baptist circles, and especially the Gospel of John) has not been so neat and tidy. I am struggling with methamphetamine addiction and the guilt of two failed marriages. I trust Christ.

What would you say to me or someone like me David Black? Not that I put my trust in a mans words these days, but I'm greatly interested in your take on a testimony like mine because you speak of a life that has stopped sinning.

How would you comfort or tell someone to abandon all hope in a situation such as this? I'm interested because while I do not trust in man's words I love the Brethren and enjoy fellowship. (Just a few of what I perceive as evidence's of God's saving grace in my life)

Awaiting your reply,

Nathan Samuel Unger

Hi David.

When a person quotes scripture I will never disagree. It's when we start with our exegesis that I am very very particular in agreeing or taking an opinion.

You speak of full sanctification of the spirit. Agreed.

So what would you say to a person who has had a muddied testimony or one who is struggling to stop sinning? How can a person repent and still have confidence in Jesus if they keep stumbling. Where does the will stop and start? Where / how does your take on faith and The Word account for the distinction of the flesh and the spirit?

A bit of my testimony if I may. Raised by an Orthodox Jewish father and a converted from Protestant Christianity to the aforementioned mother I was taught both The Torah and about a man named Jesus who was the true Messiah respectively. My mom never gave up her faith in Jesus, on her death bed when the wrong flavor of minister came to her bed side she scolded him and said, "WE DON'T PRAY TO MARY". lol, but I digress.

At the age of 13 I experienced an overwhelming up-springing of the aforementioned influences and felt a great hunger for the things of Faith. Now divorced my mom and my new step dad had a handful of Bibles around the house. I grabbed the first one I found, a NKJV "translation". I devoured the Gospel of Matthew. I said, "THIS IS IT! I must have Jesus!" I called on the Lord for salvation and asked mom if we could start going to church. She took me to a local Assembly of God church that her dad enjoyed here in the Valley of The Sun (PHX AZ) when he had visited. I don't know if you're familiar with AoG doctrines but they're essentially Arminian. I began to flourish until my victimization as a small child combined with the hormones of middle teen years and what I attribute to my own pride prevented me from seeking help and instead of struggling with "losing my salvation" every time a pretty girl passed in front of me in the class halls I did what little I knew from Matthew and Revelation. I walked away.

Hi Richard in Christ,

I know I shouldn't be sinning anymore & I do my best not to sin wilfully. It's funny you should say that it seems as though after a certain amount of time things just changed inside you. I feel like that's what is happening to me.

I believe The Holy Spirit is guiding me & I know it's not ok to sin. I'm more aware of my sin now & listen/sing Christian songs or pray when I become aware of it. I have never experienced the Lord speaking to me, but I think that He'd do the same with me if there's something that I was unaware of. I believe that God will reveal these things to me at the right time. Like our younger pastor said, if God revealed all my sin to me at once I wouldn't be able to cope with it. I also believe that going through these things makes us stronger (& wiser too.)

I do pray that God will help me with certain things. I know that He's helping me because I know I couldn't have done things on my own. Thank you for all your encouragement & support.

God bless you & your family.

Kind Regards

Claire

We shouldn't judge. You can wear jewelry.

I just have a problem with people who have Christian magnets on the back of their cars; doing 75 in a 45mph speed zone. We ought to remember to obey all traffic laws. It saves lives. Amen?

Hello Claire,

No problem. I only hope to help you as the others here do also. The other post I made to you wasn't a reply so that's probably why you didn't get an e-mail for it. Sorry. The posts just get so small after a while I just made a post with your name on it. It's on the fourth page right now maybe on the fifth by the time you may get to look.

To answer your question about when I stated "the Holy Spirit taught me". I guess I can say the Lord uses many different ways to teach us. Some people, even myself, would have thought that the Lord would have told me satan was telling me to keep on doing things like drugs, and other things. It actually seemed as though after a certain amount of time things just changed inside of me on their own. The Holy Spirit just began guiding me the right way even though a voice was telling me "it was ok". One night after I did something the Lord said "do you really think I'm ok with you doing that?" I was confused and said "but you said it was ok." The same statement was said a second time and that was it. I got on my knees and prayed I was sorry but I was still confused. Other things happened and it just became clear that the voice I was hearing that was telling me "it was ok" to do certain things was not our Father. As now I understand the reason He didn't tell me, right away, is because after going through those things it made me stronger.

Just keep your faith and trust in the Lord and He will do what's best for you as he knows everything. Keep praying to Him. Ask Him for any help you need with anything. To guide you to the truth. He hears you always.

God Bless you sister.

Matthew 10:34

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

This gospel is the gospel of peace about the prince of peace from the God of peace.

King James Bible

Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves

Ephesians 2:14

For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us

Ephesians 2:15

Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace

Ephesians 2:16

"And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:"

"And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh."

"For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father

"Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;"

"And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;"

"In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:"

"In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit."

2 Cor 3:16

King James Bible

Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away

King James Bible

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty

But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord

This is just me but I see nothing wrong with wearing a cross at all! I think it shows great respect and love for Jesus!

This gospel is peace and it is about the Prince of peace who came from the God of peace.

Hi Richard in Christ,

Thank you for your reply. I don't remember seeing any post in my email 'From what I've read here, from you, I would believe you have already received the Holy Spirit', I don't seem to be getting all the post to my email for some reason & I even got an email from myself in reply to Chris the other day about my dad having an affair, so I don't know what happened there. I have wrote other post on here & had no replies at all ?

The voice inside me sounded like a warning, It said either Nazi camp or Nazi Germany & then it said either Haxley or Huxley drive or avenue or something similar & for a split second I saw a street sign saying the same thing then woke up (I googled these things and found nothing interesting), but before I heard the voice inside me, A voice woke me up saying 'Claire',1st time it sounded like my dad, 2nd time was an unknown male voice saying 'Claire' & 3rd time was like the 2nd voice saying 'Claire', these voices were weeks or even months apart & I ignored them out of fear. I have never heard voices before & I haven't heard them since. the Bible says Resist the devil, and he will flee from you, so I presume the voices were from him.

When you say The Holy Spirit taught you that it was satan, how does the Holy Spirit teach you, do you hear a voice or does he bring a scripture to mind or something ?

I first felt the vibrations around the first weeks of the Covid 19 lockdown, I can't remember if I was fasting or not, but since then I feel them more frequently. I think it's when I'm doing Bible related things when it happens though & I feel encouraged that this happens to other people out there too & that I'm not going crazy. I don't think I mentioned this experience to the pastors at church because I felt mocked about other experiences I've told them about. Thank you for all your words of encouragement.

God bless you & your family.

Kind Regards

Claire

Hi Claire,

I don't know if you saw my other post to you that I wrote. From what I've read here, from you, I would believe you have already received the Holy Spirit.

First) You stating you have heard a voice from inside you. One thing I am going to tell you for your protection and for your good. God began speaking to me, after giving myself to Christ, and I have never heard voices in my entire life before this. Be careful because satan can speak to you also and may try to imitate the Lord. Trying to make you think it is ok to keep on sinning. Do not worry. You may have to go through some testing but it is for your own good and will make you stronger. God knows everything that is going on. One way you can differ the Lord's voice, not by sound, is by what is being said. God loves you and only wants you to do good things. One tactic satan used was when I would tell the Lord how much I loved Him a voice would say "you don't love me". This broke my heart as I thought this was our Father saying this back to me. But after learning from the Holy Spirit, through experience, this was the voice of satan. I now cast satan out if I ever hear anything I didn't feel that is from my Father or with love in it. And God hears you all the time no matter what. He knows every word out of your mouth, every thing you hear and every thought in your head always. The further you are from Him will discern how close He is with you. The closer you draw to Him, through Christ, the closer He will be to you.

Second) You saying you feel vibrations in your body. This is something else that tells me a person has the Holy Spirit in them. Of coarse I can't say everyone with the Holy Spirit has this. Usually after I pray, hearing praise music, watching certain things of the Lord, or talking with anyone about Jesus Christ, usually other believers, feeling tingling that will flow through my whole body. The stronger it is the happier the Holy Spirit is inside me.

God Bless you sister.

Hi Drama,

Thank you for your reply. It says in 1 Corinthians 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind. I know God/Jesus wants fellowship with us, Christians struggle & God works all things for good. When you say that you feel God in my spirit, Is it like a voice coming from within your chest ? I experienced that once, but when I told my pastor & he told me to just ignore it & now I feel like I'm going crazy. I know God knows our heart & if we confess our sins, God is faithful and just to forgive us our sins & cleanse us from all unrighteousness, but Psalms 66:18 says - If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear [me] and Isaiah 59:2 says - But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid [his] face from you, that he will not hear. I am struggling with unforgiveness, so I don't think that God hears me. The church I go to all read the KJV Bible, but I don't always agree with the pastors interpretation of it & they don't believe that the spiritual gifts are for everyone & say that they were only for the disciples & that if we all have the gifts then we should all be able to walk on water & heal the sick. Mark 16.17-18 says - And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. Nobody speaks in tongues at this church, but a lot did at my old church.

Thank you for your words of comfort & encouragement. P.s does anyone ever feel their body vibrating ? I've felt this a few times, but can't find a reasonable explanation for it. I feel like I'm on crazy pills sometimes.

God bless you & your family.

Kind Regards

Claire

Claire,

I am 72-years old and I can tell you from the word of God that none of us is good. That is why Jesus came. Please believe me when I say that God hears every pray you pray and the most important thing he wants with you is fellowship. How many people do you know have seen a burning bush? Maybe those who are looking up, should look down. I came from a family of 10 and a very Godly home. Even the best of Christians struggle with the same things. Just remember God may not answer your prayers immediately. He is working out what is best for you and all involved, but rest assured, he will answer your prayers. Sometimes I feel God in my spirit and sometimes I don't. That doesn't mean that he has forsaken me. I read from the KJV. You keep doing what you are doing. God knows your heart and we all sin, but God is faithful and just to forgive us if we confess the sin AND the sweetest thing is that he remembers it no more. If you are attending a church that does not preach TRUTH (by that I mean that it does not line up with the scriptures) RUN RUN RUN. They are a cult and you do not need to be there. I hope this helps you and I pray that God will open your heart and mind to his truth.

Thank you so very much for your kind words and prayers for my daughter. She was baptized, and does pray, I don't think enough, or I am unsure. I am grateful for any prayers for her. I know that the only thing that can save her is Jesus, and it's her journey, I've known for years, it's painful, none the less. Again, thank you!

Hi Chris,

No worries

Kind Regards

Claire

Hi Sara

Thank you for your reply. I do see myself as a sinner & I do pray & ask God to forgive me daily for ALL my sins, yet I'm still waiting for my pastor to allow me to be baptised !!! I know that The Holy Spirit will not make me perfect until I go to Heaven, but will be with me until I die. I use to believe that I had to be a good person in order to get into Heaven too, but I know different now. I have already looked at the verses on how to be saved, death & salvation, deliverance & many more, but I will read the scriptures they you suggested in John & Romans also & let you know if you have any questions.

Thank you for all your help & encouragement.

God bless you & your family.

Kind Regards

Claire

Hi Chris,

My dad had an affair & left when I was about 9. Shortly after, I was having my photo taken with the creepy landlord at a xmas party & either accidently or on purpose touched the side of my bust which mortified me. I ran into the toilets crying & told my cousin & she told my dad's g/f. My dad's g/f told me to not tell my dad & spoil the party because my dad would beat him up & end up in prison. (This taught me to not trust people when bad things happened because they wouldn't believe me & I didn't matter.) I went on to be sexually, emotionally, physically & mentally abused in my teens & early 20's by a number of different people & never told anyone.

I moved in with my dad & his g/f when I was 11. My dad's g/f never made me feel welcome, only spoke to me when she had to or for show in front of my dad. I moved out when I was 16 because I had a row with his g/f because their daughter kept going in my room & ruining my things, but she never seemed to ruin any of theirs ? Anyway, I ended up swearing at his g/f & slammed the door in her face (not literally). Because my dad's g/f never makes me feel welcome, I now have a rocky relationship with my dad & only see him briefly on his b/day, father's day or xmas to give him his things & I also feel obliged to buy her xmas & b/day things to keep the peace. I try to take them when she's at work because she still makes me feel unwelcome. This has gone on for over 30 years, so unfortunately I can't just say how I feel because on the odd occasion when she triggers me with her degrading comments & I have spoke up, my dad takes her side & makes me feel like the bad guy, so I don't want to completely destroy my relationship with him by me dragging the last 30 odd years up with no witness to back me up & make myself look like a trouble maker. I want to forgive them & have asked God to forgive me & them, but I still feel hurt.

God bless you & your family

Kind Regards

Claire



God bless you & your fa

Claire, since I'm sending you comments on a new thread, I have to wait for that to be approved before I can attach my other page(s). So, you'll see all of it tomorrow.

Hi Claire. This thread is getting too long & narrow for us to read properly. So I'll start a new one - you'll have to look for it.

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Hi again Chris,

Thank you for your continued support & advice. Yes, that was the verse I was referring to, So if we have to be born again first, then how would we know when we've born again ?

I have a couple of testimonies, but my younger pastor says that they are not sufficient for being baptised, So at this point I'm unsure what he wants from me.

1st testimony

I had depression & anxiety & it got to the point were I didn't want to wake up anymore. This night I woke up from a nightmare sobbing & asked God to give me peace & within a couple of mins I felt peace & contentment & was able to go back to sleep. (Praise God !!!)

2nd testimony

I was in a carpet shop with my mum for the 2nd time as we had been a few weeks earlier. Before we went in I said to my mum, I'm not going to mention the price that he gave me last time & see what price he says this time because I thought it was expensive last time, so tried another shop which was more expensive. Last time the carpet that I wanted was 10 per sq meter. The guy asked me if he had given me price last time & I said no. Then my mum turned round & said yes !!! (Did my mum honestly just say that & make me look & feel like a complete idiot !!!) I immediately felt condemned for lying & couldn't wait to get out of the shop, so that I could repent & ask for God's forgiveness, but I had to endure this shame for longer whilst he looked at the price & said this is not right. He said that he had made a mistake & that the carpet was 12 per sq meter. I just felt like he was just trying to take advantage me, so I said I'd let him know. I wasn't able to repent for a few hours later because my mum came back to mine for her tea as usual, but I finally repented & felt relieved. (Praise God !!!) I have just had my carpets fitted by another shop for 5 per sq meter, so I didn't have to go back to that other shop. (Praise God !!!) God is good !!!

God bless you & your family.

Kind Regards

Claire

Heavenly Father, I pray that you will cover this problem with your loving hand. While my mind is confused and struggles to find the right path, I know that you can heal any situation. Bring your peace and hope to my life. Hold me close to you so that my heart and mind may be kept safe. I pray that you will use the power of your truth to transform any darkness into your love and light. You are my fortress and my place of refuge. In times of difficulties, I turn to you for protection from harm. Thank you for protecting me and giving me all of my blessings in life; and setting the captives free. Amen.

See an Endocrinologist who specializes in what you have. Can check hormones and reasons for low energy. Eat because only you can keep your nutrition level up. Sleep so your immune can repair itself; take walks in full sunshine.

I agree with you that God will oversee and undertake in the return of your health. Cast all your cares and concerns upon Jesus. I pray that your faith in Him to heal, will not be shaken. Start praising Him and give thanksgiving for your help. Many healing scriptures in Proverbs. Speak them out, so your eye gate, ear gate and mouth gate will help your faith be stronger.

Have faith in God. Praise Jesus for delivering you. A merry heart doeth good like a medicine. When doubts attack you; bind the spirit of Infirmity and send it into outer darkness in Jesus's Name

Less tv and more Bible reading. ;)

Jesus loves you and so do I.

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Holding resentments & grudges can be quite a stumbling block in a believers' life of victory. It can only be the Spirit's Work that will help you & heal you in this matter. Have your Dad's girlfriend & daughter hurt you in some way, or is it just their relationship that has brought your resenting them? If they have hurt you, the first step to healing is to let them know your pain & to clearly tell them that because of Christ's love in you, you forgive them for what they've done to you. Then bring the matter to the Lord & allow His Spirit to cleanse you & to work in you to truly forgive them & accept them. To play 'happy families' when you have anger in your heart is hypocrisy & detrimental to you & they too will see it. But if anger lingers in you, you cannot move forward spiritually as it will always be an impenetrable wall in your relationship with God.

All this takes time, even by being incommunicado with them for a while, till you accept them & see them as how God sees them: in love & mercy as to those who are without God's love & hope for eternal life. Remember that any unconfessed or harboured sin will always be an impediment in a believer's life; the Christian adage: "always keep short accounts with God" should be uppermost in our minds.

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Hi again Claire. Thank you for reading that lengthy sermon - it was heavy going. I had to re-read it quickly to find the portion I think you're referring to. The part that seemed significant is:

"God cannot write his law in our inward parts till with water and with blood he has purged us. Tables on which the Lord shall write must be clean, therefore the heart on which God is to engrave his law must be a cleansed heart; and it is a great joy to perceive that from the person of our Lord heart-cleansing blood and water flowed, so that the provision is equal to the necessity. Blessed be the name of our gracious God, he knows how to erase the evil and to cleanse the soul through his Holy Spirit's applying the work of Jesus to us."

If this is the portion, then I don't believe Spurgeon is referring to water baptism or the requirement to be baptised first & then born again - that would be totally erroneous. His mentioning "water & blood" is his direct reference to 1 John 5:6, 7: "This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth. For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

There have been several interpretations of this "by water & blood". I feel it indicates Jesus' physical birth (water) & He speaks of this in John 3:5 & then the "blood": of His Sacrifice. Or, Spurgeon could even be recalling the water & blood that issued out of the Lord whilst on the Cross ( John 19:34). We're unclear but it wasn't anything to do with water baptism which can only be taken after first being born again by faith in Jesus's Sacrifice & the indwelling & renewal of the Holy Spirit.

Is God a being, or a conscience state of mind

Hi again, Nathan. I am only taking the same hard line Christ Himself taught. There are quite a few differences in salvation from the Old vs New Testament times. OT animal sacrifices to appease God which was counted as salvation, according to the ceremonial law of Moses. These ceremonies can be seen described in Deuteronomy, Exodus for example. This tabernacle and ceremonial way was a type of the salvation Christ offers and for what He died on the cross to pay for. But there are differences. OT required atonement for sins yearly. NT if you repent your sins then you are saved from those sins in power over sin, in removing the penalty of sins committed, along with removing the guilt of sins of the past. Note again I do not mention sins of the present when regarding salvation, because God requires you to sin no more after salvation. If you sin presently but after salvation, you have backslid and are plunged back into sin. 2 Pt 2:22 gives an apt description, dogs turned to his own vomit again or sow that was washed returning to wallowing in mire. So too there are not future sins. You can't be saved from something you have yet to commit but plan on later. I know there's 2 works to obtain full salvation, repentance to salvation and sanctification of spirit. You can disagree if you so choose, but what I stated is correct. Not because I say it, but because it is what the Bible teaches.

It would be great if we all made Heaven our home. God still has rules and those that obey will make it to Heaven. Those that reject the truth do not make it. We can choose to obey or not. We choose to believe the Bible or not. The Bible still says there's a Heaven and a Hell as places for spending eternity. Heaven for the ones that love and obey God and His Word and have been saved from sin. Hell is for all that reject His truths and die an unrepentant sinner. The kingdom of God includes all that are freed from sin, and excludes all that still sin against God. Sin is a willfully disobedience.