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Revelation Chapter 14 Discussion Page 10

Revelation Chapter 14 Discussion Page 10



 
  • Mburah on Revelation 14:13 - 11 years ago
    rev 14; 13. my understanding is,the once you be in Jesus you be dead for sin and you alive for righteousness, so dead are those live in Jesus Christ, for I am not live but Jesus living in me,
  • V on Revelation 14 - 11 years ago
    What kind of people have to rise before there can be the rapture?

    dead in Christ

    So the rapture is after the time of those dying for their faith in Rev. 14, because there they are going to die in the Lord.

    "dead which die in the Lord from henceforth"

    This is the chapter where John saw the resurrection of the just and the rapture - as he saw the earth reaped.
  • Katherine Brown on Revelation 14:5 - 11 years ago
    I BELEIVE THEY WERE TOTALY COMMITED TO GOD
  • Scrap7 on Revelation 14 - 11 years ago
    I am always in constant study on God’s word. I have been compelled by him through dreams and visions to tell others that their eyes are shut to the dilemma we are fast approaching. America is deceiving all its citizens to the letter. I believe that Revelation 14 gives true account to what is happening in the world now, as Satan has the whole world blinded. Television, the all seeing eye in very household has made everyone prisoner.
  • Joel Walehwa, M.Div. on Revelation 14 - 11 years ago
    This chapter, like the rest of the Book of Revelation is not about the Seven Churches, the sights of heaven, the Judgments or such things, although these gave the context of the Subject of the Book. The issues in this chapter connect to the subject of the Book, which is: HOW THE WITNESSES OVERCOME.
  • Insight 777 on Revelation 14 - 11 years ago
    I thank God with all my heart for the 144,000. These 144,000 Christians will come from all over the earth and unite to fight the last battle of World War 3 before the final battle that Jesus fights in Megiddo. These people are selected because they have the "song" or telecommunication ability that no one can hack. They are God’s earthly Christian soldiers that help to stop the slaughter and end the slavery of Christians. This ability, the love of God and courage enable them to defeat the enemies of Christianity. The "harps" are telecommunication devices like computers/satellites or perhaps HAARP technology. "These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins" I think means they are not defiled with the treatment of women as inferior and are pure because they do not demand that women follow the Wahhabi religion code of conduct. These 144,000 love the truth and love the law of God. These 144,000 refuse the WW3 peace treaty agreement to live under Muslim rule. They will fight to protect Christians around the globe. WW3 will be so devastating it will poison the air, land and water. I believe right before Jesus returns a nuclear winter will begin. Jesus will restore the earth to health and establish the New Jerusalem for peace on earth.
  • Ugbedeojo on Revelation 14:10 - 12 years ago
    It is a terrible thing to fall into the hand of God almighty.
  • Takirid on Revelation 14:1 - 12 years ago
    Well Linda why don't we findout and see what Gods word has to say. And I saw, and, look! the Lamb standing upon the Mount Zion, and with him a hundred and forty-four thousand having his name and the name of his Father written on their foreheads.” ( Revelation 14:1) As we have seen, this Lamb is the same as the Michael who cleansed the heavens by casting out the Devil and his demons. He is the Michael whom Daniel describes as “standing in behalf of the sons of [God’s] people” as he prepares to “stand up” in executing Jehovah’s righteous judgments. ( Daniel 12:1; Revelation 12:7, 9) Since 1914 this self-sacrificing Lamb of God has been standing on Mount Zion as the Messianic King.
    3 It is just as Jehovah foretold: “I, even I, have installed my king upon Zion, my holy mountain.” ( Psalm 2:6; 110:2) This no longer refers to the earthly Mount Zion, the geographical location of earthly Jerusalem, in which city human kings in the line of David used to reign. (1 Chronicles 11:4-7; 2 Chronicles 5:2) No, for Jesus, after his death and resurrection in 33 C.E., was installed as a foundation cornerstone on the heavenly Mount Zion, the celestial location where Jehovah determined to place the “city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem.” Hence, “the Mount Zion” here represents the exalted position of Jesus and his joint heirs, who make up heavenly Jerusalem, which is the Kingdom. ( Hebrews 12:22, 28; Ephesians 3:6) It is the glorious royal situation to which Jehovah elevates them during the Lord’s day. Over the centuries, anointed Christians, as “living stones,” have earnestly looked forward to standing on that heavenly Mount Zion, united with the glorified Lord Jesus Christ in his majestic Kingdom.—1 Peter 2:4-6; Luke 22:28-30; John 14:2, 3.
    4 John sees not only Jesus but the complete body of the 144,000 fellow heirs of the heavenly Kingdom standing upon the Mount Zion. At the time represented by the vision, many, but not all, of the 144,000 are already in heaven. Later in the same vision, John learns that some of the holy ones still have to endure and die faithful. ( Revelation 14:12, 13) Evidently, then, some of the 144,000 are still on earth. So how is it that John sees all of them standing with Jesus on Mount Zion? In that, as members of the congregation of anointed Christians, these have now “approached a Mount Zion and a city of the living God, heavenly Jerusalem.” ( Hebrews 12:22) Like Paul when he was still on earth, they have already—in a spiritual sense—been raised up to be in union with Christ Jesus in heavenly places. ( Ephesians 2:5, 6) Additionally, in 1919 they responded to the invitation, “Come on up here,” and in a figurative way “went up into heaven in the cloud.” ( Revelation 11:12) In view of these scriptures, we can see that all the 144,000—spiritually speaking—are located on Mount Zion with Jesus Christ.
    The 144,000 have no part with the worshippers of the wild beast, who are marked with the symbolic number 666. ( Revelation 13:15-18) In contrast, these loyal ones have the name of God and of the Lamb written on their foreheads. No doubt John, a Jew, saw God’s name in Hebrew lettering, יהוה. In having the name of Jesus’ Father symbolically written on their foreheads, these sealed ones make known to all that they are Jehovah’s witnesses, His slaves. ( Revelation 3:12) Their having Jesus’ name also displayed on their foreheads indicates that they acknowledge being owned by him. He is their betrothed “husband,” and they are his prospective “bride,” “a new creation” serving God with heavenly life in view. ( Ephesians 5:22-24; Revelation 21:2, 9; 2 Corinthians 5:17) Their intimate relationship with Jehovah and Jesus Christ affects all their thoughts and actions.Thats the best I could do, and the rest up to you, weather you except this conclusion or not.
  • Glenn on Revelation 14 - 12 years ago
    Is a last day message of the 3 angels for the world. This is for people to come out of "Babylon". That mean false doctrine and confusion. It is symbolic of the old testament "Tower of Babel" where God confused the worlds language.
  • Mandy on Revelation 14:14 - 12 years ago
    Its a reference to alien intervention. Humans are created by fallens/aliens. Even in genesis the bible uses the word "gods" instead of God. Jesus came to help us find "God". With humans threatening to destroy the earth through greed, why wouldn't an alien force step in to try to wipe things out to start over, like with Noah etc etc. And ascension, doesn't that sound like being beamed up? Possibly those who make their robes white will be taken favor upon and saved, returned to the earth after a time of cleansing / purification.
  • Andreas Voigt on Revelation 14 - 12 years ago
    This world has forgotten to give glory to the Lord above. Babylon is the fallen church of the Pope in Rome, because he and his church made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of their fornification. The Pope is the beast of Revelation 13. He is called VICARIVS FILII DEI = 112+53+501 = 666. The number 666 means three times the inadequacy of a person. Anyone who believes the faith of the Pope or does his will, will not be listed in the book of life. He will be thrown into the lake of burning sulfur at the end of the Judgement of God. You're right: Revelation 14:6-13 is called the Message of the 3 Angels and belongs to the end of times.
  • Tom on Revelation 14 - 12 years ago
    Here in the Psalms we read the situation of the 144000 saints during the 7 plagues in Revelation. This is the song of experience which is indeed a song like none other for it illustrates the unshakeable faith of these men and women who have come through the plagues unscathed because they trusted totally in God. May we all be a part of that group.
    Psa 46:1 God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
    Psa 46:2 Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
    Psa 46:3 Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
    Psa 46:4 There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
    Psa 46:5 God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
    Psa 46:6 The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
    Psa 46:7 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
    Psa 46:8 Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.
    Psa 46:9 He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
    Psa 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
    Psa 46:11 The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.

    Unlike the Brother above who thinks that God will save everyone, the bible says " Exo 34:7 Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children, and upon the children's children, unto the third and to the fourth generation."
  • Garyloyd on Revelation 14 - 12 years ago
    The song of Moses that is spoken of I think off hand is in Rev. 15 and that song that the Elect sing opens up in Deut.31 and the song it self is in Deut. 32 and it is good to go over it a few times and have knowledge of it.
  • Garyloyd on Revelation 14 - 12 years ago
    There is NO MARK of the Beast." Count" the number 666 is the number of a man coming at,6th seal opened, your mind better know what occurs in the seals because when the 6th trump is sounded for action you won't be ready in your mind. No you will have the Mark of the beast in your hand because you were par-taking and promoting his system trying to lead Gods children into hell but at ,6th vial the Elect stand up and the Holy Spirit flows thru the Elect and all the children that love Gods word thru these children speaking His Words will turn away from that system and their god antichrist or instead of christ and as long as they are in the flesh before the 7th trump they will be saved.
  • Solomon on Revelation 14 - 13 years ago
    the mark of the beast is a real mark
  • Tom on Revelation 14 - 13 years ago
    The 144,000 saints give the last message of warning to a dying world. The song they sing is the song of experience, of being disbelieved just like the Savior was when He came the first time.The great majority will reject the three angels message and the Lord will come upon them like a thief in the night. Why? Because they want salvation on their terms, not Gods, and fail to heed the warning. "fear God and give glory to Him for the hour of His judgement has come" This 3AM is the final Elijah message, we've had two other Elijah messengers. The figure of angels is used to show the power of the final warning. As for the mark of the beast, this is about worship(mind) and what we do with our hands(actions). Notice the description of the saints Rev 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. The saints obey God, enabled to do so by the faith of Jesus. This means God's perfect law is written on their hearts and they would sooner die then disobey any one of the Holy precepts. The nominal Christian does not view the commandments as binding on us and doesn't mind a little change here and there in them to make it easier and more convenient. Hence when the mark of the beast is instituted as law, the saints will refuse to disobey God and worship a man instead of God. Here we have action based on the conviction Ecc 12:13 "Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."
  • Michael Lydon on Revelation 14 - 13 years ago
    The enemy is no man, woman or child. We are Lambs. We are Children of Light.

    God never "turns his back" on anybody. Perfect God Desires for ALL to gain Eternal Life. Can any man make God a liar?

    The "Whore of Babylon" delivers out to "Babylon" Earth's people via the "False Prophet" of Lying Deceits by the "Serpent": Iudgments of Damnation, Hatred, Sorrow, Fear, Controlling slavery, Demanding obedience, pains, illnesses, ALL SINS such as Pride, Gluttony, Vanity, etcetera and all of the things that deliver DEATH onto us Children of Light.

    Those who point their fingers toward brethren while claiming that they're going to hell and they're not because they "have accepted Jesus Christ who is their Savior" DO NOT HEAR CHRIST.

    The Spirit of Christ is ALL GOOD and has nothing to do with being in a special club where "believers go to Heaven" and everybody else goes to some kind of Eternal hell. The Idol Whoreship done in Jesus Christ's name and likeness are front row tickets to the show described above.

    We are ALL Children of Light. The only enemy here is the Controlling Energy of Darkenese. You can't fight this enemy. You can only Overcome it.

    ALL men and women are our "brethren" (in quotes only because women can't really be brothers, but that's not really the point here.)

    HELPING HANDS PEOPLE. NO IUDGING OTHERS AS "BAD".
  • Linda on Revelation 14:1 - 13 years ago
    i do not understand this part of the bible.Iknow it is talking about the end of times
  • Joe on Revelation 14 - 14 years ago
    The mark of the beast revolves around worship. The beast,(the beast out of the sea)is the catholic church/vatican, and her mark is the transfer of the Sabbath from the 7th day of the week to the 1st, or Sunday. Once Sunday worship is forced upon mankind, it becomes the mark. Scientific discovery has recently revealed that the frontal lobe of the cerebrum, which in laymen’s terms is called the forehead, is where functions like decisions, judgments, and free will are made. We are sealed by God when we make the free will decision to accept Jesus as our Savior and His Word as Truth. This is where we recieve the mark in our forehead. If we accept the mark of the beast through force, we recieve the mark in our hand. Here is a quote from the RCC: "Sunday is our MARK of authority. . .the church is above the Bible, and this transference of Sabbath observance is proof of that fact" Catholic Record of London, Ontario Sept 1,1923.

    Here's another one: "Of course the Catholic Church claims that the change (Saturday Sabbath to Sunday) was her act... And the act is a MARK of her ecclesiastical authority in religious things." H.F. Thomas, Chancellor of Cardinal Gibbons.
  • BOB KUZEL on Revelation 14 - 14 years ago
    THE 144,000 ARE 12,000 FROM EACH OF THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL. THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY ONES MAKING IT TO HEAVEN. PLEASE READ REV7:9. "AFTER THIS I BEHELD AND LO A GREAT MULTITUDE WHICH NO MAN COULD NUMBER ALL NATIONS, AND KINDREDS, AND PEOPLE, AND TONGUES STOOD BEFORE THE THRONE AND BEFORE THE LAMB CLOTHED WITH WHITE ROBES AND PALMS IN THEIR HANDS."
  • BOB KUZEL on Revelation 14 - 14 years ago
    ABOUT REV14:9. THE KING JAMES VERSION STATES IN HIS FOREHEAD OR IN HIS HAND. IN HIS FOREHEAD MEANS IF BELEIVE IN THE DEVIL AND HIS WAYS. IN HIS HAND MEANS IF YOU HELP THE DEVIL DO HIS WORK. IF YOU ARE A CHRISTIAN AND DO THIS GOD WILL TURN HIS BACK ON YOU FOR WORSHIPING THE FALSE ONE. REV14:10 WILL BASICALLY TELL WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU DO. GOD BLESS YOU AND YOURS!!!!!!!
  • Kitty on Revelation 14:3 - 14 years ago
    144000 men and women from earth who will live in heaven and govern those who live on earth after Armageddon.
  • Darren D on Revelation 14:11 - 14 years ago
    comment to rev 14:11 who worship the beast and his
    image?The beast could be tammuz the trinity god
    and most people in christendom would receiveth the
    mark of his name beliving it was the mark of the
    christ.the mark being a cross or a lower case t.


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