Revelation Chapter 14 Discussion Page 9

God 's Holy ten Commandments can never be abolished by men, so we are required too remain true and faithful to the practice of these Holy Commandments written with the finger of a Holy God and Creator of all creation..

The 144,000 are of Jesus ' choosing. They are from all over the world. They may be bloodline Hebrew or grafted in. They are New Israel, the church. They also include the Philadelphia Church and the Woman in 12 Rev. See. Exodus 19 4. You will also see this 144,000 on Mt. Zion in Rev. 14. They are protected during the tribulation period. Also there is no scriptural evidence of the tribulation lasting 7 years. It looks more to me like 3 1 2. 1 Cor.15 52. This shows the time when Christ returns.

I say they are children, because only children are pure.

Lately I 've been feeling unhappy sad depressed about the way my life has turned out well this past Saturday I was driving to a friends house when I got there I was quite surprised that he had a bible study going on. Of course I was invited to join them of course the way I been feeling I welcomed it I was also asked if I knew what the good news was? I said that Jesus is coming soon and I 'm sure I 'm not one of thee 144,000 that get to go to heaven but I pray I can live here heaven on earth thee elders told me to read Proverbs 29 25 and Revelations chapter 14 6,7 I did and was quite moved I left that day feeling refreshed what other chapters could I read to keep this feelings I feel? I know satin will be waiting to test my faith what can I do to protect myself? I 'm 54 single I was married for 16years no children I thought I did every thing God expected of myself it just didn 't turn out the way it was supposed to I used to think God made a mistake but no God makes no mistakes I can 't change the past but I have today and tomorrow is promised to know one. I know the pain I feel can 't compare to the pain Jesus felt that day he died for me he died for our sins that we mayhave ever lasting life! I need to protect myself will you please help me? Sincerely W.Ludington

I 'm trying to read Revelation chapter 14 versus 6,7

Since the 144000 are all Jews, I believe the fullnes of the gentiles happens first and that culminates in the rapture then time for the awakening of the nation of Israel kicks in and these Jews, marked with the name of God in their foreheads will be evangelizing to their fellow Jews. so they are the first fruit among Jews because the other Jews will have to go through the whole tribulation. I therefore see pre Trib rapture is still valid!

I think since they are without fault and virgins they are young, perhaps just around their bar mitzvah time. Remember Jesus was in the temple at age 12 amazing tge priests. Anyway no matter the fact is G D has said it will be so and so it will be, weather we understand it or not.

Who so ever is 1stthe shall be last and the last shall be 1st. Just a thought.

How can the 144,000 be the firstfruits if they 're already in heaven before the harvest? I 'm addressing the idea that the chapter is completely chronological.

How can the 144,000 be found without fault before the throne of God, prior to the hour of his judgment?

Rev 14 is chronological. You find events listed. In the order they happen. The 1st fruits are faultless and appear before the throne of GOD where angels harps the lamb are Rev 6. They are taken to GOD before the judgement vs 7. Then other events happen in order. You have angels coming in numerical order. You can 't have a 2nd before the 1st. Watch what happens. 1st angel preaches the gospel. Then the judgement and Mystry Babylon is fallen. Then 3rd angel vs 9 mark of beast. Vs 12 and 13 Christians and Jews slaughtered. Vs 14 and 15 Jesus comes on a cloud and redeems from the earth in a harvest. Now that GOD 'S saints are gone the trumpets start blowing the wrath of GOD vs 19 Compare this with Mat 24 and it fits perfectly. You will find Math 24 stops at the harvest and does not describe the grapes of wrath for the are reserved for that Antichrist. People do not want to believe this but it is here in black and white. He that has ears to hear let him hear. Since this is in numerical order of events please show me where the pre trib rapture occurs in Rev 14. I would really like to believe it. If the 144000 are first fruits we must be 2nd fruits but where are the 2nd fruits in scripture. If G GOD declared them the 1st how can we be before the 1st. I really can 't answer this question can you?

Of the 144,000, 12,000 from each tribe, where did these 12,000 come from?

The 144000 who follow Jesus wherever he goes. The following does not necessarily start in heaven but on earth

Rev 14 1 4 talk about the 144 000 faithful men who followed Jesus Christ faithfully and are not defiled and remain blamless in the eyes of God This is a specific number of men who will be resurected to a spirit life in heaven who will rule as preist and kings with christ

The elect are the 144 000 Jewish remnant there are no saints He goes on to tell that the saints will be killed How blind can you people be Ezekiel 9 1 6 144 000 sealed saints killed

Redeemed from the earth

love this the best

Priests, monks, or/and even men who have not been with women. It is spelled out as virgins). I have had homosexual men to bring my attention to this verse to justify their homosexuality.

The reapers are the angels, Gods elect are the saint who have served Jesus faithfully. The angels are not redeemed from the earth.

Rev 14 is an expansion of Daniel 2 & Daniel 7 into a clear
picture

Rev 14 helps me to to know the will of God in my life, and the preparation to meet him when he comes the second time.

Revelations 14 is self explanatory either you serve the lord and live a everlasting life or you serve the devil and live in the pit of fire for eternal. God gives us a choice so make the right choice.

PUT ON THE WHOLE ARMOUR OF GOD!! meditate on EPHESIANS 6; 10-18!! STAND FIRM!!

The reapers are God's Elect, and the harvest is the earth and its people, and it is indeed ripe.

American Indians trust in the Great Mystery helped me to grasp that trust in the Creator, the Unknowable Essence was the most important thing we all need to do. Since I was a Christian, I was in horror. They had never heard of Jesus. Their words were from long ago. I couldn't accept heaven without the very people who had helped me thru their beliefs to understand the essence of the bible. The next thing I knew, god had me read rev. 14:6&7. The everlasting gospel preached by an angel about fearing , worshipping the one who made all things. I then grasped that trusting Jesus is really trusting the Creator of all things.

i do not understand much about this passage.it seems as if 144000 is specifically for jews only according to chapter7 verse 4.some of the other nation have the seal of the holy spirit.not on the forehead but inside our hearts from the day we recieved christ to be our savior

The judgement depends on the deeds. Amen!

can anyone help me to understand Rev 14:6-7

The mark is an economic ID device like VeriCHIP RFID. The image is TV/video which the antichrist will be seen on when it is revealed to the whole world, or a major part thereof. It will be revealed to all those who are hypnotised by TV, who will worship it as the antichrist's image when he is revealed on its screen. He will not be on it all the time; he will know to exercise restraint so as not to become overfamiliar; but on it he will be seen sometimes, such as The News. The other programmes, whether they be Coronation Street, The Simpsons, X Factor, or movies will all be tools incorporating something of his message, presence or adoration, and will be regulated to ensure nothing evil is said against this monster. Make no mistake, ladies and gents, TV is (to be) the Image of the Beast. The Beast is the empire or global organisation, the antichrist its ruler, and the currency of the empire is the economic RFID mark of the beast. They are not (just?) casing Christians, they are casing everyone to enforce worldwide acceptance (by businesses and peoples alike) of the economic standard mark.

THOSE people are special group of people who nt taste the first death(sleep ) they ar righteas.wl u be among them frnds