Revelation Chapter 18 Discussion Page 2

Look how these 2 end-time scriptures intertwine, like most all can. The description of Babylon sounds like a familiar nation, arrogant nation. The plagues initiate from the attack, and result in uncontrollable, open air, perpetuating diseases. Dead, burnt, rotting bodies will be a problem.

( Revelation 18:7) How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.

( Isaiah 47:9) But these two things shall come to thee in a moment in one day, the loss of children, and widowhood: they shall come upon thee in their perfection for the multitude of thy sorceries, and for the great abundance of thine enchantments.

( Revelation 18:8) Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her.

Another angel comes from heaven. This seems to be Christ himself, coming to destroy his enemies, and to shed abroad the light of his gospel through all nations.

Why would Christ appear as an angle, this doesnt sound right.

John 15:7

Truly, truly, I say to you, if you ask the Father for anything in My name, He will give it to you. Until now you have asked for nothing in My name; ask and you will receive, so that your joy may be made full.

What happens to a spouse who dies? Are they able to see us ?

The lord is coming Amen!

Thank you Jesse, I just wanted to know if it appeared somewhere before but you have revealed very important tip to me.

They were amazed because the Galileans spoke the language of every nation attending. Speaking in tongues is speaking the Gospel in a real language, not gibberish.

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Thank you for clarification to my question. Greatly appreciated. I guess it ties in to Pentecost.

The only comment I have is the audience, I believe that witnessed or spoke in tongues in all of the accounts were Jews and not Gentiles.

The Bible uses duality to liken events.

Isaiah 14 is a diverse recap of end-time prophesy.

Israel (whole house) spent 430 years slaves in Africa per Genesis 15:13. Centuries later, the house of Israel, specifically the birthright people of Gen 48 (US/UK), in their respective new lands (land of the Lord), returned the favor by taking them captives whose captives they once were, some 400 years.

Explain Acts 2: 7,8

Thank you so much, something so simple but confusing to me. God Bless You!!

Been a busy morning already. Two trucks and a re-loading of propane! :)

Ecclesiastes 4:1

So I returned, and considered all the oppressions that are done under the sun: and behold the tears of such as were oppressed, and they had no comforter; and so on the side of their oppressors there was power; but they had no comforter.

my testimony: I know that comforter and he gives me peace in my weaknesses. :)

Hi darren ,Isaiah ch 14 v 1-3 ,iif i really think on it i think these verses have not yet been fulfilled at least not completely ,when it comes to prophecy my gauge is 'has that happened yet ?' of course we cant always be 100 percent sure ,it urks me when people try to tell me what happened a thousand years ago in a foreign country when most people cant tell you what was going on in their own lives last month ,i think these 3 verses are yet to be fulfilled and i like to hope that these bondmaids and servants will be happy to be alive and in the land of Israel with Christ and the redeemed ,'i would rather be a door keeper ' psalm 84 v 10

We think alike. My 1st message was to Adam, then I see you did the same.

I am thrilled you read the OT, it is rich with details. It's like 12 guys telling an insurance agent their version of the accident. Just for the fun of it, in a category called: Know your prophets:

Isaiah walked 3 years naked and barefoot.

And the LORD said, Like as my servant Isaiah hath walked naked and barefoot three years for a sign and wonder upon Egypt and upon Ethiopia; So shall the king of Assyria lead away the Egyptians prisoners, and the Ethiopians captives, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with their buttocks uncovered, to the shame of Egypt.

Ezekiel 4, God told them to eat human dung, but the prophet talked God into eating cow dung as a sign of Northern kingdom's Assyrian captivity.

Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth. Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith. Ezekiel 4:14-15

What do you make of Isaiah 14:2 Egypt and slavery connection, both 400 years?

Also the "Martyr's Mirror"

Thieleman J. van Braght

Charles,

Sean McDowell the son of Josh McDowell researched this subject and wrote a book.

Sean McDowell

The Fate of the Apostles: Examining the Martyrdom Accounts of the Closest Followers of Jesus

2 Peter chapter 3

3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days SCOFFERS, walking after their own lusts,

4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

5 For this they WILLINGLY are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:

6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:

7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.

8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL should come to repentance.

10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be BURNED UP.

11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved, what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness?

12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be DISSOLVED and the elements shall MELT with fervent heat?

13 Nevertheless we, according to his PROMISE, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.

14 Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that YE MAY BE FOUND of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.

Peace be to thee Mishael. I hope you remain well and I am always happy to see the steadfastness of your faith. Normal life here, the family is well and all remain in the Lord pressing forward by faith.

Carleton

You can Google the deaths of the Twelve Apostles. Judas died by his hand.

Hollaye,

Like Sacha, I also begin my prayer with Dear Heavenly Father, or sometimes just Heavenly Father. When I am done praying, I thank Him in Jesus' name.

When I pray, I pray for the Lord's will to be done in whatever it is I am asking for.

I was taught that prayer is a means by which we submit ourselves to God's will in whatever it is we are praying for.

I believe that when we ask according to His will, we have a guarantee that our prayer will be answered. But just know, it's according to His will, not ours.

Hello Charles,

I don't really understand the previous post of "name the twelve apostles". If you'd like to know where they are listed in the Bible let me know.

About how they all died I have spent a little time researching. I have a simple answer for you. One apostle, Judas Iscariot, committed suicide(hung himself) after betraying Jesus. Only one died of natural causes, probably old age, John son of Zebedee. All of the other ten disciples/apostles of Christ were killed or martyred.

God Bless.

Hello, thank you for responding to my question, what you said makes sense. I just want to be closer to God and our Lord Jesus Christ, thank you again!!

Hollaye

Hi darren ,i chose sacha as my user name because it can be a male or female name and i belive people talk to you differently depending on your gender and on theirs of course ,i tried once to read a Bible commentary when i first started reading but i didnt even get half way through it ,it was drivle ,the Bible interprets itself ,i would love to know exactly what everything means and be able to remember it all chapter and verse but i know thats not going to happen ,i content myself with reading it every day ,i am crazy about the old testament ,Isaiah is the bees knees for me ,literally every chapter is fantastic ,it truely is meat and drink for the soul , keep up the good work please ,your post are thought provoking and interesting and appreciated ,sometimes they are even funny !

HOW did the twelve apostles die and were are they buried

Name the twelve apostle's

Good morning all, it is the first day of the week. And it is lovely.

Jude 1:3

Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that you should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.

Seedtime and Harvest

Charles E. Orr

1861-?

For in due season we shall reap, if we faint not- Gal 6:9

As pilgrims and strangers we journey through life, Thro' sunshine and shadow thro' calm and strife, Each day we are scattering seed as we go; Someday 'twill be harvest- " we reap what we sow."

Tho' weary and warn and alone in your way, And storm clouds are gathering and dark is your day, Weep not, toiling one, neither faint as you go; The harvest is nearing- "we reap what we sow."

Tho' life may appear as a cold, barren waste, And comes no return of the bread you have cast, Continue to do loving deeds as you go; The harvest is nearing- "we reap what we sow."

We'll reap what we sow when the harvest is come, Someday we shall garner the deeds we have done, Then heed not the storm nor the cold winds that blow, Toil on till the harvest- "we reap what we sow."

From Every Stormy Wind

Hugh Stowell

1799-1865

From every stormy wind that blows, From every swelling tide of woes, There is a calm , a sure retreat; Tis found beneath the mercy seat.

There is a place where Jesus sheds The oil of gladness on our heads, A place than all besides more sweet; It is the blood bought mercy seat.

There is a scene where spirits blend, Where friend holds fellowship with friend Tho' sundered far, by faith they meet A- round one common mercy seat.

Ah! whither could we flee for aid, When tempted, desolate, dismayed Or how the host of hell defeat, Had suffering had no mercy seat?

There, there on eagle wings we soar, And sin and sense molest no more; And heaven comes down our souls to greet, While glory crowns the mercy seat.

Hi Hollaye ,Luke ch 11 and Matthew ch 6 shows us the Lords prayer ,i can tell you what i do ,i start with :Dear Heavenly Father ,then i say thankyou for the things im thanfull for that day ,then imight ask God for something and i end with :Through the name of Jesus Christ ,others may do it very differently and hopefully some one else will answer your question also .