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I know this is not for me, but I agree with you completely. There are several places in the bible that mention the chosen, and the elect, and it is speaking of Jews. I know of at least 20 places that speak of Jews being God's chosen people, including the verses you listed.
Peter wrote his letters to the scattered Jews (the diaspora), and in 1 Peter 2:9, he says "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
These are all Jewish terms. Peter says you are a chosen generation. He's speaking to Jews. The word generation means race. The Jews are God's chosen race.
He says you are a royal priesthood. And that's not for Gentiles. That's for Jews. You are a holy nation. You are a peculiar people;
Now the peculiar people "might" apply to us. I know some pretty peculiar people that are not Jews! (He-he). But the word peculiar means people of a possession.
I agree fully that the Jews are God's chosen people. They are also called His elect. Gentiles are never called the elect or chosen.
Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
2nd witness of Jesus in Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Jews are going to worship at the feet of Christians.
Did you know the Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL?
Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."
John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.
How can anyone tell me that those who have the wrath of God against them for rejecting the Son is the "chosen people"
King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.
Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.
"But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."
But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
Looks to me that those who hear the voice of Jesus are true sheep or the chosen people.
John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
Jews who reject Jesus are cursed
Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (ALL Pharisees are Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
Just cause someone claims to be a jew does not make it so and the middle east is full of them.
1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
Jews were God's chosen people and still are. I don't know why, but that's who God picked. That doesn't mean that Judaism is true. That belief denies Jesus, which is the central point of Christianity, to follow Christ. It's ok to condemn a false teaching, but not an entire people group.
Our job is to love and teach, not judge.
The disdain you have for our brothers (the Jews) is palpable.
If the Jews are cursed, what do we do with Acts 28:26-28?
Do we believe what Luke says?
Last I checked, those that killed the prophets "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" ( Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9).
"SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"
"SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"
Do we believe the words of John?
People can say they believe in anything they want. Show me your works and I will see your faith!
The JEWISH high priest appointed by the Roman Governor that condemned Jesus was "of the synagogue of Satan," not a Jew.
You say "ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist;" again, I would refer you to ( Acts 28:26-28).
What about Muslims, Hindus, etc.? They deny God AND Jesus.
Jews follow God. Last I checked, that was Jesus' Father also.
As far as most of the Jews being from Eastern Europe and Russia, I am not sure the point you are trying to make.
Most of us don't know our ancestry more than a few generations.
How do you really know your ancestors aren't from Europe or Russia; and could have even been Jewish!
1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?
1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.
DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?
Did you know most of the self identified "Jews" in the Israeli state are from Eastern Europe and Russia?
they are indeed.
Rev 6:14 US/Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facility in Trumps 2nd term. There will be a quiet.
Rev 6:12 brings an earthquake in Israel, opening them up for an easy invasion, then comes..............................
The 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, 2nd woe
Ez 38:1-17 America receives the "abomination of desolation" (Is 47, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 18), and Israel taken in the same hour, Luke 21:20-24.
The beast (Russian Confederacy) crushes 5th trumpet Babylon (US/allies) to dust, Rev 9:13-21.
The aftermath - Obadiah. So you see it was a family affair all along, Esau (Russia) mortally desolates Jacob (US/Israel) and God is mad.
This is anti-christ's rule, between the 6th and 7th trumpets. A world without America.
Right now, Christian missionaries are being slaughtered in the Middle East, Communist China and other places. Pray for God to confuse and bewilder their enemies; to make them turn on themselves. Let's remember them before we dine.
has came home and then hail stones start hitting the earth with fire with the sound of the 7th Trump at Christ return that's when you need to worry about your head. Learn that first seal in Revelation 6 so you know the first messiah is false and Wait for the true Christ.
Matthew 25:32 -46