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Revelation Chapter 6 Discussion Page 6

Revelation Chapter 6 Discussion Page 6



 
  • Jesse - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Hello Adam,

    I know this is not for me, but I agree with you completely. There are several places in the bible that mention the chosen, and the elect, and it is speaking of Jews. I know of at least 20 places that speak of Jews being God's chosen people, including the verses you listed.

    Peter wrote his letters to the scattered Jews (the diaspora), and in 1 Peter 2:9, he says "But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

    These are all Jewish terms. Peter says you are a chosen generation. He's speaking to Jews. The word generation means race. The Jews are God's chosen race.

    He says you are a royal priesthood. And that's not for Gentiles. That's for Jews. You are a holy nation. You are a peculiar people;

    Now the peculiar people "might" apply to us. I know some pretty peculiar people that are not Jews! (He-he). But the word peculiar means people of a possession.

    I agree fully that the Jews are God's chosen people. They are also called His elect. Gentiles are never called the elect or chosen.
  • Joe Bell - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    The Israelites were not all Jews. The house of Israel were not Jews. The tribe of Dan were not Jews. The tribe of Joseph were not Jews. Only one tribe from the house of Judah is a Jew. Only the tribe of Judah were Jews.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Adam where does the Bible say that those in the modern day claiming to be Jews are indeed who they say they are?

    Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    2nd witness of Jesus in Revelation 3:9 "Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee." Jews are going to worship at the feet of Christians.

    Did you know the Lord DIVORCED ISRAEL?

    Jeremiah 3:8 "And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also."

    John 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

    How can anyone tell me that those who have the wrath of God against them for rejecting the Son is the "chosen people"

    King James Bible Jesus speaks to some of the Jews in John 10:23 - 29:And Jesus walked in the temple in Solomon's porch. Then came the JEWS (THE JEWS) round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.

    Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.

    "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you."

    But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

    Looks to me that those who hear the voice of Jesus are true sheep or the chosen people.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    The Bible says the Israelites (Jews) were God's chosen people. Deuteronomy 14:2, Isaiah 44:1, Deuteronomy 7:6. Do you agree?
  • Joe Bell - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Jews are not the chosen people, the Bible never says that. We are all chosen. However, it is Israel who is the apple of God's eye, not todays vile partner in crime with America (Mystery Babylon). The real Israel, the real tribes are hidden and lost in generations. It is original Israel that is reformed at the 7th trumpet, and not to include 1,300 year old impostors. Isaiah 14:1 The Lord will again choose Israel, after the Ashkenazi Jews courted satan to ruins.
  • Joe Bell - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Yes, Jesus was a bloodline Jew of Seth, Semitic. Todays so called Ashkenazi "Jews" have no relation with the tribe of Judah. They are 8th century AD converts of Japheth (Gentiles). Gen 10:2-3 tells you that Ashkenazim was the grandson of Japheth, not Shem-Abraham, Issac & Jacob. Therefore the Ashkenazi Jew is European (between Black & Caspian seas) and Jewish by religion, not by genetics. The regular Jews amongst us are faultless, but not the small percentage of supplanters who sin greatly against God, the synagogue of satan.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    I read and interpret these verses just fine and my comment stands. Jesus was a Jew. Matthew 7:1.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    I do not deny Christ so I am not antichrist and we are to judge in righteousness

    John 7:24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    Jews who reject Jesus are cursed

    Matthew 23:15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees (ALL Pharisees are Jews) , hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

    There is only one door and it is Jesus and any Jew who rejects Jesus is rejected of God.
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Jesus in bible book Revelation 2:9 - I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

    Just cause someone claims to be a jew does not make it so and the middle east is full of them.

    1 Thessalonians 2:14, 16 - For ye, became followers of the churches of God which in Judaea are in Christ Jesus: for ye also have suffered like things of your own countrymen, EVEN AS THEY HAVE OF THE JEWS: WHO BOTH KILLED THE LORD JESUS, and their OWN PROPHETS, and have persecuted us; and THEY PLEASE NOT GOD, and are contrary to all men: Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: FOR THE WRATH IS COME UPON THEM TO THE UTTERMOST.
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Jesus was a Jew. He's not 'cursed'.

    Jews were God's chosen people and still are. I don't know why, but that's who God picked. That doesn't mean that Judaism is true. That belief denies Jesus, which is the central point of Christianity, to follow Christ. It's ok to condemn a false teaching, but not an entire people group.
  • Greg - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Bob Hilt,

    Our job is to love and teach, not judge.

    The disdain you have for our brothers (the Jews) is palpable.

    If the Jews are cursed, what do we do with Acts 28:26-28?

    Do we believe what Luke says?

    Last I checked, those that killed the prophets "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT, BUT ARE THE SYNAGOGUE OF SATAN" ( Revelation 2:9 and Revelation 3:9).

    "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"

    "SAY THEY ARE JEWS, AND ARE NOT"

    Do we believe the words of John?

    People can say they believe in anything they want. Show me your works and I will see your faith!

    The JEWISH high priest appointed by the Roman Governor that condemned Jesus was "of the synagogue of Satan," not a Jew.

    You say "ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist;" again, I would refer you to ( Acts 28:26-28).

    What about Muslims, Hindus, etc.? They deny God AND Jesus.

    Jews follow God. Last I checked, that was Jesus' Father also.

    As far as most of the Jews being from Eastern Europe and Russia, I am not sure the point you are trying to make.

    Most of us don't know our ancestry more than a few generations.

    How do you really know your ancestors aren't from Europe or Russia; and could have even been Jewish!
  • Bob Hilt - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    The Bible definition of an ANTICHRIST. 1 John 2:22 - Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. (ALL Jews deny Jesus and that makes them antichrist, if they believed in Jesus then they would be CHRISTIANS. IF you do not believe me call any Synagogue and ask them if Jesus is the Messiah.)

    1 John 2:23 - Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    If Jews do not accept Jesus as messiah, then who is their messiah? SATAN?

    1 Corinthians 16:22 - If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema (CURSED) Maranatha.

    DO JEWS LOVE JESUS OR ARE THEY CURSED?

    Did you know most of the self identified "Jews" in the Israeli state are from Eastern Europe and Russia?

    they are indeed.
  • Joe Bell on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    The 6th seal

    Rev 6:14 US/Israel attacks Iran's nuclear facility in Trumps 2nd term. There will be a quiet.

    Rev 6:12 brings an earthquake in Israel, opening them up for an easy invasion, then comes..............................

    The 6th trumpet, day of the Lord, 2nd woe

    Ez 38:1-17 America receives the "abomination of desolation" (Is 47, Joel 2:1-11, Rev 18), and Israel taken in the same hour, Luke 21:20-24.

    The beast (Russian Confederacy) crushes 5th trumpet Babylon (US/allies) to dust, Rev 9:13-21.

    The aftermath - Obadiah. So you see it was a family affair all along, Esau (Russia) mortally desolates Jacob (US/Israel) and God is mad.

    This is anti-christ's rule, between the 6th and 7th trumpets. A world without America.
  • Paul D Collins on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    in the gospels of Matt, Mark and Luke Jesus is telling His apostles what the seals are. He tells of the false prophets (anti=christs) coming.
  • Andrew wright - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    well said.
  • Mishael - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    In Hebrews Chapter 11 is all about Christian martyrs in the Bible.

    Right now, Christian missionaries are being slaughtered in the Middle East, Communist China and other places. Pray for God to confuse and bewilder their enemies; to make them turn on themselves. Let's remember them before we dine.
  • Rebecca - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Who are the martyrs at the opening of the 5th seal?
  • Word 76 on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    The first seal and verse 2 that man, supernatural man has a fake crown. Oh it looks real to those who don't know the truth and that bow is as fake as he is the false messiah so look the crown and bow up and find out in the Strong's Concordance. Satan is kick out of heaven Rev. 12 to deceive the world in a deception to conquer the souls of the world. Acts just like the real king so all who think they are going to be beheaded don't worry because Satan doesn't want your flesh he wants souls and worshippers all the way to hell. So if you catch yourself in church someday singing we don't have to worry we're no longer a widow our husband

    has came home and then hail stones start hitting the earth with fire with the sound of the 7th Trump at Christ return that's when you need to worry about your head. Learn that first seal in Revelation 6 so you know the first messiah is false and Wait for the true Christ.
  • Brian - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    I completely agree. The blood moon was over rome yesterday! Our savoor is coming and it is glorious!
  • Chris on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    It is difficult to forecast what this Corona pandemic will do. It can be equated to other turmoils that have affected & gripped the world in the past (e.g. the W. Wars, other worldwide diseases/plagues, the Great Depression, etc.). Eventually, it will pass as doctors understand this Covid-19 virus better & develop a vaccine, but the longer the pandemic goes on & the resulting deterioration to the economies of the world, then the longer it will take them to pull out of it and get back to normal. All this serves to show us how easily we can get badly affected by such an event & should cause us as Christians to cleave more to the Lord and others to consider his offer of hope & salvation.
  • Guillermo Matias on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Does the Corona virus destroy the whole world economy.
  • Andy on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    The locusts eat the crops which cause famines. The covid-19 virus is one of the pestilence that kills people all around the world because people in China eat the beasts of the fields (rats and bats). We are in the last days and on the threshold of Christs return. These are exciting times for the saved and scary for the lost. 🙏🏻 Amen
  • Brenda moore on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    keep praying and believing god
  • James - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Can you explain the locusts in Jerusalem and afghanastan destroying all crops. Thats also in the bible.and 1 of the seals
  • Cristy2020 - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    What?? I assume you are an american, if I am wrong forgive me but you cannot assume everything is about America.God has a plan that He will allow to run its course, when He needs to intervene He does and He will. We as Spirit filled believers need to stay the course as Paul said, be fervent in prayer redeeming the times, spread the gospel help save as many souls due to a rampant Satan who knows his time is short. Let us be faithful, the times are evil and we need to prepare, get ready while we have the time. In one stroke, the churches around the world are shut..the fight has really begun, we will be under attack, but let us not waver in making ours an election that is sure..Peace..
  • Akosua - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Well I'll tell you the truth I believe in my heart that it was planned for a while now all government of each country is involved the president and this is so sad things in the Bible has been changed so much and they are making money they making movies they even saying this is God this is how God looking is just very sad that this is happening but to get people sick and killing I really believe that things have been shot up in the air to cause people to be sick because if you go in for a cough or call or anything is going to say the Coronavirus and this is sad but I notice so much had changed like a year ago as people was getting sicker and sicker hard to get over the cold but we are what we
  • Akosua - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    Amen to that very powerful
  • Adam - In Reply on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    I think it was traced to a bat, according to the article I read. It said the microbiology lab in Wuhan was doing experiments and a scientist from the US even sold some stuff to them and then 'coincidentally' the first infection was nearby the lab.
  • Virginia hanna on Revelation 6 - 4 years ago
    I believe the coronavirus will be traced to the most inbred domesticated animal the dog. host -switching from animal to humans The dog is now being touted as a "family member" even as to " my child". This canine who goes by instinct and has no reasoning ability or problem solving ability. FIFTY TIMES the dog was mentioned in Scripture and NOT ONCE in a complimentary way It was used to describe liars, prostitutes, false prophets etc:. And what joy it must delight Satan to see the human race embrace this animal which is an INSULT to our Almighty God who made man in "His image" and his creation being compared to a dog.
  • T. Levis - In Reply on Revelation 6:9 - 4 years ago
    One respected leader said to me "but why not LIVE "
    Matthew 25:32 -46


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