Revelation Chapter 7 Discussion Page 7

Son of the Most High God, that is falsehood. Romans 1:16 "For it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first and the Greek." Acts 18:6, "I am clean: from henceforth I will go unto the gentiles." Race and bloodline does not matter to Christ for a person being saved after his sacrifice and never will.

Satan has deceived the whole world ask God for forgiveness and come out from under the deception, God will forgive and show you the way out

Only those Born-again, Washed by The Blood of The Lamb, Elected Before The Foundation of The World --- Ali Pre has Posted it for Us. It's not a Worldly Bloodline It's Spiritual. Read Romans Chapter 11, Galatians 3:21-29: We are All One in Christ/ He is a Jew which is One Inwardly and Circumcision is that of The Heart( Romans 2:28-29/ Whosoever is not Found in The Book of Life( Revelation 20:15

ONLY TRUE BLOODLINE ISRAELITES ARE SAVED THROUGH THE MESSIAH, MATT. 15 24. GOD IS ONLY REDEEMING THE ISRAELITES, LUKE 1:68-80. THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS ONLY FOR THE ISRAELITES, REV.21:1-2,12. ONLY THE ISRAELITES ARE AND CAN BE SAINTS, PSL.50:5,HEB.8:8-9, DAN.7:18,22,27. JESUS ONLY DIED FOR THE TRUE ISRAELITES, MATT.1:21. THE PEOPLE IN ISRAEL TODAY CLAIMING TO BE JEWS ARE CONTERFITS, REV. 2:9,3:9.

I always heard there was only 144,000 people going to Heaven. However, it brings me joy to know that Rev 7:9 says,
Lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

I love reading God's Word. Thank you for this Platform and beautiful Bible.

Hello disciple, that's a logical perspective. However, we know God is in control of all things and that He does everything for a perfect reason His pleasure. Glory be to God in the highest amen!

Hi Dewey; I don't know why Dan is not mentioned in Revelation 7; nor why Simeon is not named in Deuteronomy 33. I have thought about that a lot, and prayed, and prayed and thought; but haven't found a satisfactory answer yet. Perhaps it is to signify that not everyone who was once named among the brothers, and for a certain started, will make it to the finish? Maybe there's a meaning in the names?

Is it just me or are there only ten tribes of Israel mentioned here an equal number of 12000 people redeemed from each of the 10 tribes mentioned. The tribe of Dan and tribe of Ephraim are not mentioned here in Rev. 7. However, we know that 12 times 12 = 144 therefore the tribes of Dan and Ephraim must be included in the total number of 144.000 of the tribes of Israel. Glory be to God!

WOW! WOW! WOW! Verse 14 said: "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of 'Great Tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb".WOW,WOW,WOW!

April 10, 2018. Rose Munro, I thank you for the truth. The evil one will come at the 6th trumpet. He will receive many with his deception. To protect the Elect, Christ Jesus has shortened the 7 years to five and a half months. Otherwise, even the Elect would be fooled. It is very wrong. So many families will be brought up by their own family members to the evil one

Verse 10~We owe salvation to Jehovah God for providing the ransom and to Jesus Christ for willingly offering himself as the ransom.

servant; If you are not yet saved HERE, how do you expect to be any other when your spirit leaves this world to go into eternity? Jesus said, "He that believes (present tense) on me HATH ETERNAL LIFE.." "He that believes on me is not condemned..." If your name is not written in the Lamb's Book of Life NOW, IN THIS TIME; how are you ever going to get it written when its too late?

Washed in the blood, sealed in their forehead; The tribes of Israel are all Gods children, as they migrated to the further reaches of the earth. All those in heaven before the throne of God are the Saved, the Wheat already sifted from the chaff. None on earth are saved, for it is not pre-determined or self-determined. All must go as God has determined. On earth in the winnowing fans of life

Ren, you may be confusing the church age saints with the tribulation saints. The judgment for church age believers is to test our works to determine rewards or lack thereof. Our salvation is already secure.

look at verse 9,12

You read where they slept after they died I believe our souls go up to a holding area till Jesus returns at the end.Bible says we r all judged so I can't see anyone going to heaven till Judgement day.It says the sheep will be separated from the goats at Judgement.Just doesn't make any sense to go to heaven then be pulled back out to be judged.I do agree only our bodies r in the grave not our souls

Cheryl; the 144,000 are only from the tribes of the children of Israel; and I think that they are just the ones from the time of "Jacob's Trouble" which would then be in addition to the multitudes of the Saints from every generation and century from the beginning. The saved from out of all Nations and Tribes and Families and Tongues are a multitude that no man can number. Very good question!

So, if only the 144,00 are sealed with Jesus when do the rest that believe in Jesus go tho heaven

Verse 1: These destructive winds show just how extensive the great tribulation and Armageddon will be. It is important to prepare for such events right now.

God is a God of the living not the dead. Anyone who has read the Bilble knows that there are no souls in the graves. Christ when crucified went to the tomb which is the other side of the void known as hell and brought those out from all the way back who had lived by the law but didn't make it and Christ save them before He sat on the throne. Paul teaches of the two bodies we have flesh-spiritual.

Think about this- why didn't anyone that Jesus raised from the dead speaking about heaven OR complaining about having to come back here? All the seals and Trump's are progressive through the ages. The show is over at the last trump when Christ decends with a shout. With the voice of the archangel. Ecclesiastes says when you're dead you know nothing. Resurrection is at last trump according to God

Bruce I believe the dead in Christ have never died, they are not in flesh but they are with Him right now and First, yes they are, first with Christ. We will be changed at the 7th trump and when they return we will meet them in spiritual bodies. Oh, all will change at the 7th trump and that's the good,bad, and ugly.

word:The Lord's Word is like people telling stories.Some events will be Future,some will be Passed,some will be Present.God's Word says at The Last Trump The Dead in Christ Shall Rise First.Remember ye The Words which were spoken of The Apostles---there will be Mockers in The Last Time:JUDE17-19/Evil men and Seducers wax Worse,deceiving and being deceived:2Timothy3:13 /Is The Father Calling.

Sabbath keeper you need to read Corinthians. Paul tells us once the silver corn has parted we are with the Father. 1 Thess 4:13 the subject there is where are the dead and they are with Christ and shall return with Him. but I bet the Romans had something to do with it. Yeah sealing up the graves so no one can ascend.

Love: these are they which were not defiled with women for they are virgins. Revelations 14:4

Sabbath keeper and Wife where does it say the 144,000 are virgins?

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the Lamb, clothed with

For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout with the voice of the Archangel and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so shall we ever be with the Lord. Wherefore comfort one another with these words. 1Thessalonians 4:16-18

The 144,000 aren't yet in heaven. No one is. Another lie of Rome to support humans being immortal. Only God is immortal and no one has yet ascended but He who has descended. All with hear his voice and come out of the graves on the last day at the last trump. Jesus says this 4 times on one gospel alone. It's part of the same lie as burning forever. It's NOT biblical. Search scripture DAILY to know

What God has done is allow our adversaries to HURT us when we wouldn't keep his laws and follow other gods (even SELF) like he did to Isreal with Babylon

Sorta, He's gonna allow satan to once all the remnant are sealed(learning truth and repenting-which means to turn and follow righteous spirit filled behavior, can't do it without) .God isn't too much concerned with our physical bodies as he is with spiritual ones and FOREVER. Millions have been martyred AND will be rewarded at 2nd coming. "My reward is with me". We will suffer for Him. Way it is