Revelation Chapter 7 Discussion Page 8

WOW!... God issued an Order that required the earth and sea to be hurt, WOW!.... but, before this Order of GOD is carried-out, God sealed 144,000 servants . WOW, 144,000 is sealed.

The 144,000 ,which are virgins(not in bed with harlott) came thru tribulation. washing robes(righteousness, lest he walk naked), sealed on forehead(grounded in Rev12:17 which is the ONLY way not to get mark of beast)is "spiritual"isreal-Gods chosen. Bride is same as the woman- his church. The mark is for those who don't get 12:17

False. The 144,000 Jews to come out of Israel are from the Kingdom of Heaven and not from the Kingdom of God. The Kingdom of God is still here, {why}, The Holy Spirit Tongues is still here and in effect. Those 144,000 Jews do not speak in tongues however God Himself marked each one of them alone with something else very special which only they alone have been given. The True Bride is in Heaven

The 144000 are on earth and they capture the truth and are sealed right after instead of Christ gets here or just minutes before. Anyway it will happen as it's written. Preacher's don't tell you the false Christ is coming first or they will tell you we are going to fly away but no one goes nowhere and we are all changed at the 7th trump and will meet the Lord and those that are with Him.

the 144,000 are presently in heaven. they are from the 12 tribes of Israel which the tribes no longer exist. when jesus died he went into the earth and preached to the captive because they were captive to the law and jesus fulfilled the law and the promise. they looked for him and believed and it was counted to them as righteousness. when he arose he brought them out of the earth with him.

People will follow Satan because they are deceived. And predestined by God to receive the mark.

Psalms 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet. Proverbs 19:12 The king's wrath is as the roaring of a lion but his favour is as dew upon the grass. 20:2 Revelation 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority. Ecclesiasticus 27:10 As the lion lieth in wait for the prey so sin for them that work iniquity.

Ask the LORD to teach you who "the lion" is. We are in a spiritual war, a war not of the flesh. In Christ Jesus, be blessed and be saved from the lion's mouth which is the wrath of God. 2 Timothy 4:17 Notwithstanding the Lord stood with me, and strengthened me that by me the preaching might be fully known, and that all the Gentiles might hear: and I was delivered out of the mouth of the lion. 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

Do not be deceived. By the will of God Almighty, Satan can and does enter into men as our LORD teaches us in Luke 22:3. Satan is walking in a man TODAY as "the lion" over Syria. God bless. Jeremiah 4:7 The lion is come up from his thicket, and the destroyer of the Gentiles is on his way he is gone forth from his place to make thy land desolate and thy cities shall be laid waste, without an inhabitant. 25:38 He hath forsaken his covert, as the lion: for their land is desolate because of the fierceness of the oppressor, and because of his fierce anger. Amos 3:8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

Revelations 13 tells us what Satan does, after he is cast out of heaven and thrown to the earth because he lost his battle with Michael.

I have to say, The dragon (Satan) in Revelations would not have to speak to people, I don't see where it says he does speak to people. " Speaks as a dragon" would be a loud animal sound.
People are deceived by him and have been since Eve including me and I have never heard an audible voice. His power and authority is what causes them to follow and worship him. All done by God Almighty hand.

bgardner;Also you call Satan a "person"The book of Revelations calls him a"dragon,beast".He comes to earth full of wrath because he knows he does not have long to live, according to Revelations. His desire is to deceive, lie and destroy, just as he has done since the beginning. God gives him the power to do it.Romans11:33"For of him, through him, and to him, are all things,to whom be gloryforever"

Bgardner, Will you give us scripture that proves what you say is true about antichrist?

The Antichrist may not look like Christ but he wants to be Christ and wants everyone to belive he is the real Christ. He will come peacefully; have great wealth; will seem to do everything with love and lead the nations as a caring person. Many people will be deceived and will worship him. He will have a spiritual leader partner with him and testify that he is Christ. And many will be deceived.

Word, you sill have not given scripture that says, Satan comes " looking like" the Lamb of God.
I don't think I wrote as though I didn't understand they said "wait". They said wait. I do not speak "dragon", as you wrote that Satan speaks. How will anyone understand him to follow him and be deceived? I do understand the English lanquage.

when the 6th trumpet will blow. This is the signs the lord our god is cominjg soon to judges us.

Lu2677 so when the first Christ that shows up looking like the Lamb of God speaking great things and calling himself God your going to rapture up aren't you? The false messiah comes first at the 6th trump and comes in peace and prosperity and obtains his throne over the whole earth so I think you should read Daniel and Revelation 6 where the first rider shows up and remember he speaks DRAGON!

Robert and Word, you should read Revelation 7 again; the 144,000 get the mark of God on their foreheads, marking them as God's elect. They are not harmed/ deceived. But the great multitude of people that are saved at that time will have to endure the horrors of the great tribulation. Antichrist means; against Christ/without Christ; The anitchrist does NOT look like Christ.

Joy O. The people that are saved after Christ returns of Rev. 7:14 have to endure the tribulation.

Those that came out of the great tribulation are they going to heaven with the 144000 that were sealed on their fore head?

I am afraid,and sad,but l know l love Jesus Christ,with all my heart,soul and mind,Jesus died for me,l know since he did that,there's no death in Jesus Christ,only in hell,haddas,and devil,that is the accuser,in the world.

Robert tells a truth of the 144000 turning away from the antichrist and his one world religion. When the elect are delivered up to the churches because they won't bow down to the false messiah who is saying he is Christ the 144000 thousands see and hear God speaking through those chosen elect and turn away from the antichrist which means instead of Christ.

Simply for the record i believe Christ will be recognized by 144,000 Jewish believers and prophisize the risen christ as savior in the end of days. We have been grafted in thru belief in Jesus and the nation of Israel will never be abandoned we attest to Christ so that is why they believe and they are going out to preach Christ as savior as we now are wintessing in these days...

Where is Dan. Ephraim is missing and I know why, I guess. What did Dan do?

These are JEWS virgin men from the tribulation that are missionaries to the world. We gentiles do not come from the 12 tribes, so they can not be raptured christians. There is no misprint in the Bible. Dan and Ephriam are missing because of their idolatry. Read the old Testament, Hosea 4:7, 8:9- Amos 8:14-Deut.29:20- Leviticus 24:11.

I think they are the saints that have come from the great tribulation.The answer is in the same chapter verse14.

I think your answer to question number 1 is wrong. With out a doubt Rev. 7-9 is the raptured saints that will return with CHRIST in the final battle.

I noticed in verse 6 that Manasses is mentioned as one of the tribes, YET the tribe of Dan is not included. Was Manasseh not a son of Joseph, rather than a son of Jacob Israel? Was it a misprint?

Hunger and thirst now is a blessing that draws us ti Him. Though He is our satisfaction when we stand before Him, we 'll still need to be guided to the fountain of living water which is Our Shepherd

Somehow the seals, the four angels holding back the winds and then the trumpets are all connected... As if one were amplifying and explaining the other