Revelation Chapter 9 Discussion Page 4

Not so! FIVE months and it was shorten for the elect sake. Rev.9 God tells us twice that Satan and his locust will be here for five months to hurt them whom have not the seal of God in their minds and that seal is to understand that a fake instead of Christ or antichrist comes first Rev. 6vs1 and Rev. 12vs9 Satan kicked out to deceive the whole world.

Alot of people profess that the 3 1/2 yrs were shortened to 5 mos. and it's not biblical . It's just another "futurism" claim to take eyes off the guilty party. It holds no more water than folks being raptured before the tribulation after the 6 th seal. God's people have always suffered on earth and will continue to. The next round will be the last. People always THINK they do God's will doing it

It goes hand in hand. Due to the situation at hand. God uses different people for different struggles(pains,hurts,conflict of intrest), as well as blesssing(the enjoyment of the Holy Ghost presnce). God thoughts isnt like ours. So we show never settle for nothing (good or bad).

The three and a half years was shortened to 5 months for the elect sake. Satans locust priest and Satan as the false messiah will take the world with peace and flatteries in their deception. Reading Ezekiel and Zechariah 5 I think his message will be rapture and most Christian churches will follow right in to doing wrong. Never listen to preachers just listen to Fathers words and decide yourself.

This one got cropped off too. Dan and Rev prophecy uses a day for a year.(Ez4:6,Num14:34) just like the 70 weeks that tells the EXACT year Christ was Baptised,crucified,Stephen stoned and the gospel given to Gentiles because the people didn't make an end to their transgressions for sin. 1260 days, 42 mos and time,times and 1/2 are all the same dark ages too.God is so awesome! Hope all understand

The 5 mos isn't lateral. All prophecy in Dan

How lost are people we have with us, who take lives because the enemy Satan is in their mind,their spirit,their souls, yet as in verse 9:21, they refuse the Truth and refuse to repent!!!

Better get right with Christ!

It is the word of GOD and it must come to past if you do not accept Jesus as your LORD and SAVIOR this will happen to us.

In this John was being literal with what the Lord showed him. These are actual insects, yet microscopic. These insects have internal mouths and eyes set above a nose looking. Its of a gold glittery color and its antannea are speed far out and they look sinister. All this is upon us now. Jesus told of all this that is happening now in Mark. Jesus was very concise in his telling of today's occurrences. When he gave it John and Daniel to tell theirs were more prose. Jesus didn't mix words in Mark.

In this John was being literal with what the Lord showed him. These are actual insects, yet microscopic. These insects have internal mouths and eyes set above a nose looking. Its of a gold glittery color and its antannea are speed far out and they look sinister. All this is upon us now. Jesus told of all this that is happening now in Mark. Jesus was very concise in his telling of today's occurrences. When he gave it John and Daniel to tell theirs were more prose. Jesus didn't mix words in Mark.

Gen 6:2 talks about the actions of the "sons of God" and in the very next verse is God Himself tells us how that He is fed up with having to strive with the behavior of these men who are made of flesh and continue to sin. This is not the description of a fallen Angel. You are buying into a lie, meant to confuse a simple account of how mankind multiplied because of their own sinful nature.

Those sons of God were fallen angels in Gen. 6 and they were the first influx and had giant children and they were trying to destroy Gods plan by messing up the blood line that Christ would come through and Noah and his family were good and that's why they lived through the flood.

Concerning your question of the Nephilim, I think I should expand. Read Genesis carefully. The Nephilim are not the ones who had children with the women, it was the Sons of God, and the Sons of God are not the Nephilim. God calls the "Sons of God" men in the very next verse saying they are but flesh. By Sons of God, the Bible is referring to the "long lived" direct ancestors of Adam, which God alters to reduce their age to 120 years. The Word Nephilim is mistranslated, and should be read as "Something that makes men to fall down". I am not totally sure on this, it could be giants as is usually translated but I think it is the context we must look at. The verses talk about the fact that the men of those days are men of valor, this is because they are living in the days when the "Giants" were still around. I believe it is talking about huge animals we now call dinosaurs. Go back and read it again. It will make more sense to you now.

Verse 14 : These Angel are cross referenced in Chapter 16 Verse 12 onwards. In places they are called three frogs or three plagues but in Chapter 16 verse 14 they are plainly called demonic spirits that will influence the rulers of the world through the works that they do, to gather the peoples of the world to Armageddon. These have nothing to do with any prior Angelic visitations on the Earth but have been held back to be released at the appointed time. Their King is the Devil and like him they seek to do harm. They have always been held back by the will of God until the time has come for them to do their evil part in God's loving plan.

Are these the fallen angels who were with the daughters of men? The ones that produced giants and men of renown nefilim? spoken of in Genesis?

David I find your response comforting g

Abaddon is not the Anti-Christ but the king that rules over the Anti-Christ, in other words the Devil is released at this time to begin instructing the Ant-Christ. The Anti-Christ starts his three and a half year long rule over the Earth, at the same time the two witnesses spend three and a half years reaching out to the People of Israel. This time period is the second half of the 70th week of Daniel. As this period starts the Church Gentile dispensation age has finished. The church people are still on Earth and God still wants them to behave the same and still wants Gentiles to be saved but the beginning of this age is because God has changed his witnessing back towards the Hebrew nation. Concerning the mark of the beast beast - a living creature that has no living soul - not of the lineage of Adam , neither a tattoo of a computer chip for financial purposes will stop an individual from choosing Salvation, stop them from making a free will choice. Remember in a few more verses, God even places a mark on His People. Do you think God is going to Tattoo or chip His People? This is a spiritual mark. If it were anything physical, I would tend towards something along the lines of a "joining of the mind" which would remove all chance of a free will move towards God.

The mark of the beast is a sign of disrespect to God 's commandments while the real of God is a sign of protection for God 's people those who keep his commandment

Crystal the only ones that can 't buy or sell are those who know the truth that the vile one Satan comes as instead of Christ perfoming supernatural miracles calling himself God and the ignorant people not knowing the truth chase after him thinking he is God and that 's the whole world except the election and those who decided to consume the whole Bible and search the scriptures a little bit. Daniel 11 will tell you Satan comes in peace and antichrist means instead of Christ. We are told he comes looking like the Lamb so Satan acting as Christ won 't mark 666 or chip anyone. It 's in your forehead and that is your brain and we are to be sealed with the truth so we don 't worship a false messiah and the hour of temptation is 5 months split in half Satans time here is 2 1 2 so just buy food and pay your rent and don 't buy or sell and don 't help his system along and listen to the 2 witnesses and the elect when they are delivered up.

The mark of the beast will be a computer chip that you will need to buy and sell, access health care. It is already here. As always it is introduced for "your benefit and safety. " I see the "like locusts " with "metal breast plates " another creation of man. The US Navy announces today the development of the tiny drones that can be released by the thousands for warfare. The "hair " is antenna and receptors. The stinger of course are the spring loaded poison virus carrying syringes incorporated into their construction. This is not new technology, but cold war technology.

These locust that will be here for half the hour of temptation or 2and a half months that are coming with antichrist are as Paul tells us in 2 Corinthians 11 vs 14 and 15 but read the chapter. Now transformed meaning disguised in that chapter speaking of Satan and his fallen kicked out to deceive the whole world are disguised as ministers of light. So locust ministers prepared for battle means strong,strong as an army going forward because they have but a short time, crowns are fake but look real because supernatural powers so they look real as if they were following a real Christ. Faces like men because they are men, hair like women because they are soft spoken, come to my Jesus but he is death.teeth like a lion so they can rip your soul away from you and they have breastplates of iron just like the Jews had in the old days with the 12 stones for the 12 tribes of Israel. Oh yeah it 's priest coming alright but there stealing souls to take to hell. Don 't be caught in the deception people be prepared and don 't believe in any of mans made up salvations of flying away because we all go through the test and plan of God and ALL change at the 7th trump. No buying or selling for 2 and a half months.

The Mark of the beast is in your forehead, Your Mind, from not knowing the truth. Truth, Satan comes first, truth, he comes in peace and flatteries, truth, those that have not enough oil in their lamps meaning truth in their minds have to buy and sell and when the Lord shows he caught you worshipping Satan and he will tell them, I know you not! Truth, antichrist means instead of Christ. First seal, satan comes on a white horse, looks just like Jesus, comes with a crown and bow, just like Jesus and looks like the Lamb with power but speaks like a dragon, why? Because it is the dragon, Satans role is acting as Christ.

Technology and knowledge is on an exponential increase for the last 200 years. Also the devil loves to deceive and make whatever he is presenting look mightily attractive but the real costs are always hidden. With that said it is entirely possible that the mark of the beast system, might also be a trans-humanist technology that heals the body radiation biological exposure and stops a person from committing self harm. Just imagine the capabilities of a smartphone implanted and linked with the nervous system with microscopic machines that heal and restores the very DNA of a person. Also this same technology may extend lifespans and other goodies. Most people would do whatever than can to have such awesome convenient and practical technology. Just look at how people go nuts for smartphones.

Revelation C9 teaches us that the God of heaven will judge the works of men. Therefore, in view of his coming wrath, We should believe in Jesus, God 's only Son, and we should each one seek to live Holy Lives. The figures of speech employed in the whole book are illustrative enough to cause us to fear, and to lead us to accept that these are truly Devine warnings.

This will be a time that will be so painful u will want to die and u will want to run God won't even allow u to die run get your life right with God while u have time

I think the pain and suffering will be unbearable as men shall seek death as it would be at least better for the dead. This serves to warn us to change so that we escape from this terrible days.

Ron antichrist weapon is his mouth. It is two and a half months of a flood of lies. He comes as instead of Christ and His locust army are priest and they all come to deceive the world. They want your souls and it 's all spiritual death that is being spoken of up until the 7th trump and then if you are caught with the wrong husband, the wrong Christ, then it 's going to hurt.

So is this torment from God to punish the people or to convert them or what is the purpose? Obviously there are those that will not be harmed by the locust, but those that are harmed should accept Jesus? I 'm trying to understand the purpose of the suffering?

all I feel the need to say to anyone that will hear is the time of the lord Jeasus Christ is at hand. I feel that we all need to pre pair or the things that are upon all mankind and the time that man is deceived is here. the stage is set the curtain is drawn and he who maketh desolate sets in the shadow and waits.