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That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Colossians 2:3
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
May we all grow in grace and charity.
Romans 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
I think, for a generation, we've taught our children to excel at everything. Get to the top of the heap.
I'm 70, so I've seen the generations from the 50's until now. Quite a slide show. I just think we are experiencing the Leviticus 26 curses. "They" announced God was dead. Took reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and the Bible out of schools. And you know the rest. Not only our parents allowed it, but we are still doing it: allowing CRT, gay is ok, transgender coaching, etc.
It's not all bad. It means Jesus is returning soon. Let's know prophetic timelines and keep one eye on the news.
I'm sorry that you view the church as you do. I chose in 1986, to grab on to Jesus with both hands. He did a home alone, house salvation, as I was doing a natal horoscope for a friend. I saw a vision of Jesus, then a vision of hell, then a vision of a Hand extended towards me. I TOOK THE HAND. I was a street preacher some months later. It's been awesome for 36 years.
You need to find a smaller Bible teaching church. Ask God to to give you a fresh anointing. Luke 4:18. Jesus preached that to his hometown; people who knew him and his family. The people were not amused. That was His launch. After that The Anointing began his Ministry.
You can't fix every Church. That's really Jesus's area of Ministry. He's interceding for the real Church. The American church has little idea of the Church in other countries. Luke 21, shows us the signs to be looking for, that indicate the Time of Jesus's return to earth.
Does anyone teach what Apostasy is? I had a Pastor that did it. Turned his back on everything and now he's on YouTube teaching that there is NO HELL.
I wish everyone who was bored in a dead church, would hit the streets and one by one, tell people time is running down to zero, sooner than they think. Open the Bible and just let them look at Romans 1. Keep it simple. John 3. Take some Chick Tracts (buy online). Try it. It will revive you.
Jesus told the Religious Leaders of that Day. You are Flawless, perfected in your own rules, keeping of Man Made , feel good laws. Shiny, glowing, shimmering but inward decaying.
The Pharisee looked at the Publican,and said, you know Lord, I don't dress like they do, go to the places, listen to the things, I pray and pay tithes. And then Jesus said , while that Fat Cat sounded his, her own her, rolled out a personal red carpet. And then He or She , just as easily said it,,, Thank God I'm not like other men of women. ,,,Saved
Publican is trying to pray through and reach God in Sincerity, and meekness. And then Jesus said , "Whom went Home Justified( Saved) " ? This self righteous arrogant, holier than thou is get this,,, actually thanking God He or She is going to Hell. And this was what Jesus fought and opposed and has been in a circular pattern and will continue to be. Anybody know people like that,,, sure you do, . You know more self professing Christians with that attitude than that of the Publican. And that is sad,, it's not Covid that killed Church Attendance, it's the Killer Clowns with their smiles, laughs, and bag of tricks.
But how did Jesus phrase it,,, He said this, " Because they were RIGHTEOUS in their own eyes,, they done what,, despised others. They couldn't stand anybody, they tolerated people to serve their purposes, gains. But they always let a little comment slip, to let you know who are and don't forget it. Ministry teaching , Well in Heaven, I'll be higher, more rewards. We are Heirs and Joint Heirs, God is no Respector of Persons,,, sorry. We are all on equal footing . It's simply Man trying to establish His Own Righteousness
Actually in Matthew 5, Jesus reaffirms some commandments as being relevant to society and issues. Things that come up a lot like divorce. We should speak the truth in love of course, but not softsell on issues that tear the fabric of society.
Do you hear what you're writing, dear "Brooke"? Do you really think we should go back with sacrifice? What Jesus Christ Did Once for All? After reading the answers you have received, I hope you have repented and been baptized.
But i completely agree with you that we should read and in His time we will explain it. Thought about this just today, when one gets a case handed over that is of faith who is from Him. It branches out to the one who hears. Then they get quite uplifted. Dear remember and read both GT and NT in KJV and follow the references. Then I'm pretty sure you get the case explained, i wich u good luck. And please come here for more input. Everyone here on this web site has only good peace thoughts for everyone who visits it, me too.
Please follow me in Luke 12:12 and read the whole chapter.
The Bible is divided into a old testament (will) and the new testament (will). The new testament is God's current will. When someone makes a new will the old one is replace by, or subject to the new . Hebrews 1:1 God spoke in times past by the prophets but in these last days spoken to us by his Son. The old law came through Levi but Jacob prophesied that the lawgiver would proceed out of Judah. David prophesies Christ would be after the order of Melchisedec. In Hebrews 7 it states that the "the priesthood being changed there is made of necessity a change in the law. The law can be for a shadow of the new, but not the very image ( Hebrews 10:1) 1 Timothy 1:8 The law is good if a man use it lawfully implies that the old testament can be used if it complies with the new testament. Romans 3:31 Do we make void the law through faith? God forbid, yea, we establish the law. 2 Cor. 3 has numerous verses that the old testament was to be "done away". The new testament is referenced as the "law of liberty" and the "law of Christ" which is the true lawgiver. Christ in Mat. 7 said in several places "ye have heard that it was said by them of old time" but "I said unto you" indicating that some old testament laws were not according to the "new will".
You said grow spiritual by keeping the law? We can't.
Galatians 3:2-3.
Galatians 3:5-7.
Galatians 3:8-9.
Galatians 3:10-11.
Galatians 3:12-14.
Also read Galatians 4. and
Galatians 5.
Jesus didn't do away with the Law.
Jesus took on the penalty of the law that brought death.
Colossians 2:14-17.
In fact it's called the ministry of Death.
Here's a few passages from Paul. at one time he felt the same way you do and set out to kill anyone that followed Jesus.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11.
Romans 7:10-11. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Romans 5:20. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Philippians 3:2-10. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
In Romans 10:4 to me it never means to say that when Jesus died the laws died with him. I believe we should all be abiding by the laws of Moses and Abraham. Also we need to honor the ten commandments and really study what God is telling us to do and how to live a happy spiritual life. Such as so many people have strayed away from honoring God on the true Sabbath day that the vatican doctrine has changed from saturday to sunday, and how to push pagan holidays upon people. We all need to start reading and finding out the truth!
Seeing and understanding what the Lord has done through His Son Jesus Christ, we can never know unless we are living in Him. Looking for evidence outside of His word is walking outside the path of His righteousness. Living in a world that rejects the Gospel will be all the evidence you need to know the truth. Understanding the forgiveness of sin, and why Jesus came ,will come in time to those who love Him!
Say 5 Hail Marys? Sell everything and give to the poor? Do more good deeds than bad deeds? Get baptized? Speak in tongues? Join the church? Do something else? None of those things are listed in this verse.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
The elect,.. are not automatically saved ,.. they are the ones , that help make the evil ones Jesus' footstool, an they have a job to do ,.. an are the only ones able to commit the unpardonable sin ,..
Brother Leonard, may CHRIST IN US grace us with HIS wisdom and HIS understanding.
John 15:16 You have not chosen me, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, and ordained you ...
Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer (in the flesh) for his (name) sake.
Ephesians 2:10 For we (the pot) are his (the potter's) workmanship, CREATED in Christ JESUS....
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN US both TO WILL (his will becomes our will, only truth reveals this; otherwise, we incorrectly believe it is OUR FREE WILL) and TO DO his good pleasure.
Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an INHERITANCE, being predestinated according to the PURPOSE of him who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the council of HIS WILL.
Psalms 92:4 For thou, LORD, has made me glad through THY WORK: I will triumph in the WORKS of THY HANDS.
Psalms 92:5 O LORD, how great are THY WORKS! and thy thoughts are very deep.
Psalms 92:6 A brutish man (beast) knoweth not; neither doth a FOOL understand this.
We are ONLY the pot, pots are made to HOLD something. We were made to hold GOD (SPIRIT).
The SPIRIT does ALL THE WORK.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN US (the pot) .....
Brother adam, may christ in is grace us with his wisdom and his understanding.
romans 9:18 therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
romans 9:19 thou wilt say unto me, why doth he yet find fault (say we sin)? for who hath resisted his will?
no one has resisted his will; therefore, no one has free will.
philippians 2:13 for it is god (spirit) that worketh in you both to will (his will not your free will) and to do his good pleasure.
ephesians 1:11 in whom we also have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him, who worketh all things after the council of his will.
the father is at present calling out; only, the chosen (by his will; those to be priest and judges in the kingdom of god).
obadiah 1:21 and saviours (the elect) shall come upon mount zion to judge the mount of esau (at the resurrection of the dead), and the the kingdom shall be the lord's.
romans 8:19 for the earnest expectation of creation waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of god (the seed of christ, the elect, the chosen, the judges, the saviours).
romans 8:21 for the creature (creation) itself also shall be delivered (through judgement) from the bondage of corruption (flesh) into the liberty of the sons of god.
isaiah 26:9 ......for when thy judgements (at the resurrection of the dead) are in the earth the world will learn righteousness.
proverbs 16:6 by mercy and truth iniquity is purged ......
romans 11:31 even so have these (the vessels of dishonour that god hardened) also not believed, that through your mercy (at the judgement of the dead) they also obtain mercy.
god has a plan for all creation, god's will, will be done.
Hello Leonard. What you've shared & what that Baptist Church has declared, I believe is dependent on whose viewpoint is considered; that of God or of man. That is, both that Baptist Church & Adam's comments are correct.
If you consider 1 Peter 1:2, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ", we can clearly see that the Elect (i.e. God's chosen) are in that blessed position because God has selected some according to His Foreknowledge. In other words, all whom God has foreordained to be His elect, will be saved. Now this is in God's department, so to speak, & not ours.
We cannot concern ourselves with what God knows, as sinful man must be in a position to hear the Gospel, be convicted of sin, & respond. So, the one who does hear & believe, can be assumed to be part of the "elect according to God's Foreknowledge". That is, God knows beforehand who will respond to the call. Those who reject the Gospel are outside of grace & can never be saved. Our "choice in the matter" is still a conscious decision we make, but made in concert with the Holy Spirit's working. Without the Gospel & without the Holy Spirit = no salvation. Many try to come another way; they're imposters.
In hyper-calvinism, God's election is taken to an extreme; where it even becomes unnecessary to share the Gospel, as God's choosing requires no response from man. Does that Church evangelize? If it does, then it's clear that they expect the sorrowful sinner to repent, believe, & be saved. The sinner's 'choice' is already in God's Plan to save him. We could ask the opposite question: can a sorrowful sinner be rejected by God because he is not foreordained to be saved? John 6:37, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." There's God's Promise of election & receiving a penitent sinner.
Hello, if we have no free will, what is the purpose of evangelism? If we have no free will what is the purpose of the gospel? If we have no free will, what is the purpose of following Jesus? Did you have freewill to write your question or did something force you to? Did it force you onto this website and are you a prisoner? When you brush your teeth is a force making you do that?
That's an interesting concept that we have no freewill, but it just seems to fall apart quickly with pure logic. Adam and Eve were given an choice and disobeyed God and received a punishment. Today we are given choices of whether to do good or evil and then are judged after this life according to what we have done. Romans 2:6. If there was no free will, why would anyone be judged?
I believe a movement in our society is against Christianity and they like to claim that we're only clumps of cells and that morality is only relative and that we have no choice when we do wrong. It just seems like a lazy way to rationalize committing sin and defying God. The word says to fear God who can send you to hell. Matthew 10:28. Obviously, if there was zero free will or choice then we wouldn't be continually warned to obey, avoid sin, follow Jesus. No freewill would mean everything is a charade and is meaningless. Obviously that idea is a lie and we do have freewill. I choose to respond vs not respond to this question out of my own freewill and hope to help others and help spread truth to replace lies. God bless...
My friend's Baptist church teaches that God chooses our eternal destination (Calvinism) and that we do not have any choice in that matter. I have always believed that although God's Holy Spirit draws us to himself, that we have free will and must make a decision for Christ. Which is correct and how do you prove it in a discussion, including scripture verses to back it up?
I could not live one moment without My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ .He has been my Rock thru cancer three times.Open heart bypas both knees replaced twice, A stroke. and burnt nerves in back A bone fussed in neck.What a testermoney..
I put God in my life 68 years ago when I stop doing drugs and drinking. I told him then that this life he has given me is his. My body and my soul is his alone. I love him even if Iam sinner in this flesh please forgive give me olord. He is good and faithful all the time. I stayed prayed up all the time.
This verse summarizes the ideas in the previous verse in general terms. Paul frequently summarized in Romans , and often these summaries refer to the results of the action in view, as here (cf. Romans 4:25; Romans 5:21; Romans 6:23; Romans 7:25).Belief in Jesus Christ in one"s heart results in acceptance by God (i.e, imputed righteousness, justification, and positional sanctification). Testimony to one"s belief in Jesus Christ normally follows and normally is verbal. Paul was describing the normal consequence of belief. Witmer wrote that the confession is to God. [Note: Witmer, p481.] One"s confession that Jesus is Lord would be to God initially (i.e, expressing trust in Christ to the Father), but most interpreters have believed that the confession in view goes beyond God and includes other people as well. This seems to be a reasonable conclusion since the confession is to be made with the mouth. In what sense does this confession result in salvation. Paul obviously did not mean that confession of Jesus Christ secures acceptance with God since he just said belief in the heart does that ( Romans 10:9; cf. ch4). Salvation is a broad term that includes many kinds of deliverance, as we have seen. What aspect of salvation does taking a public stand for Christ secure For one thing it saves the person making the confession from the potential discipline of God. [Note: See Dillow, pp122-24.] It also saves him or her from the loss of reward that those who are unwilling to identify themselves with Him will enjoy (cf. Matthew 10:32-33; 2 Timothy 2:12). Furthermore, it often results in the eternal salvation of other people who hear the confession of faith and then believe themselves.
Why did Peter make these comments (Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days) after these people where filled with the Holy Ghost? I thought the bible was written by people inspired by God.
Faith comes by hearing by the word.... Thus revelation.. It being revealed to you.remembered unless given you cannot receive. Hearing Jesus,being spoken by the holy ghost.the word(Thus Jesus) became flesh and dwelt among us.and now in us and made manifest by the holy spirit...
That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;
Colossians 2:3
In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
May we all grow in grace and charity.
Romans 15:13
Now the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace in believing, that ye may abound in hope, through the power of the Holy Ghost.
All God's people said AMEN.
I'm 70, so I've seen the generations from the 50's until now. Quite a slide show. I just think we are experiencing the Leviticus 26 curses. "They" announced God was dead. Took reciting the Pledge of Allegiance and the Bible out of schools. And you know the rest. Not only our parents allowed it, but we are still doing it: allowing CRT, gay is ok, transgender coaching, etc.
It's not all bad. It means Jesus is returning soon. Let's know prophetic timelines and keep one eye on the news.
I'm sorry that you view the church as you do. I chose in 1986, to grab on to Jesus with both hands. He did a home alone, house salvation, as I was doing a natal horoscope for a friend. I saw a vision of Jesus, then a vision of hell, then a vision of a Hand extended towards me. I TOOK THE HAND. I was a street preacher some months later. It's been awesome for 36 years.
You need to find a smaller Bible teaching church. Ask God to to give you a fresh anointing. Luke 4:18. Jesus preached that to his hometown; people who knew him and his family. The people were not amused. That was His launch. After that The Anointing began his Ministry.
You can't fix every Church. That's really Jesus's area of Ministry. He's interceding for the real Church. The American church has little idea of the Church in other countries. Luke 21, shows us the signs to be looking for, that indicate the Time of Jesus's return to earth.
Does anyone teach what Apostasy is? I had a Pastor that did it. Turned his back on everything and now he's on YouTube teaching that there is NO HELL.
I wish everyone who was bored in a dead church, would hit the streets and one by one, tell people time is running down to zero, sooner than they think. Open the Bible and just let them look at Romans 1. Keep it simple. John 3. Take some Chick Tracts (buy online). Try it. It will revive you.
The Pharisee looked at the Publican,and said, you know Lord, I don't dress like they do, go to the places, listen to the things, I pray and pay tithes. And then Jesus said , while that Fat Cat sounded his, her own her, rolled out a personal red carpet. And then He or She , just as easily said it,,, Thank God I'm not like other men of women. ,,,Saved
Publican is trying to pray through and reach God in Sincerity, and meekness. And then Jesus said , "Whom went Home Justified( Saved) " ? This self righteous arrogant, holier than thou is get this,,, actually thanking God He or She is going to Hell. And this was what Jesus fought and opposed and has been in a circular pattern and will continue to be. Anybody know people like that,,, sure you do, . You know more self professing Christians with that attitude than that of the Publican. And that is sad,, it's not Covid that killed Church Attendance, it's the Killer Clowns with their smiles, laughs, and bag of tricks.
But how did Jesus phrase it,,, He said this, " Because they were RIGHTEOUS in their own eyes,, they done what,, despised others. They couldn't stand anybody, they tolerated people to serve their purposes, gains. But they always let a little comment slip, to let you know who are and don't forget it. Ministry teaching , Well in Heaven, I'll be higher, more rewards. We are Heirs and Joint Heirs, God is no Respector of Persons,,, sorry. We are all on equal footing . It's simply Man trying to establish His Own Righteousness
But i completely agree with you that we should read and in His time we will explain it. Thought about this just today, when one gets a case handed over that is of faith who is from Him. It branches out to the one who hears. Then they get quite uplifted. Dear remember and read both GT and NT in KJV and follow the references. Then I'm pretty sure you get the case explained, i wich u good luck. And please come here for more input. Everyone here on this web site has only good peace thoughts for everyone who visits it, me too.
Please follow me in Luke 12:12 and read the whole chapter.
You said grow spiritual by keeping the law? We can't.
Galatians 3:2-3.
Galatians 3:5-7.
Galatians 3:8-9.
Galatians 3:10-11.
Galatians 3:12-14.
Also read Galatians 4. and
Galatians 5.
Jesus didn't do away with the Law.
Jesus took on the penalty of the law that brought death.
Colossians 2:14-17.
In fact it's called the ministry of Death.
Here's a few passages from Paul. at one time he felt the same way you do and set out to kill anyone that followed Jesus.
2 Corinthians 3:6-11.
Romans 7:10-11. And the commandment, which was ordained to life, I found to be unto death.
For sin, taking occasion by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me.
Romans 5:20. Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
Philippians 3:2-10. Beware of dogs, beware of evil workers, beware of the concision.
For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.
Though I might also have confidence in the flesh. If any other man thinketh that he hath whereof he might trust in the flesh, I more:
Circumcised the eighth day, of the stock of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, an Hebrew of the Hebrews; as touching the law, a Pharisee;
Concerning zeal, persecuting the church; touching the righteousness which is in the law, blameless.
But what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ.
Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,
And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:
That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death;
Galatians 5:11-12.
God bless.
Say 5 Hail Marys? Sell everything and give to the poor? Do more good deeds than bad deeds? Get baptized? Speak in tongues? Join the church? Do something else? None of those things are listed in this verse.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
peace
John 15:16 You have not chosen me, but I HAVE CHOSEN YOU, and ordained you ...
Philippians 1:29 For unto you it is GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not ONLY TO BELIEVE on him, but also to suffer (in the flesh) for his (name) sake.
Ephesians 2:10 For we (the pot) are his (the potter's) workmanship, CREATED in Christ JESUS....
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (SPIRIT) that WORKETH IN US both TO WILL (his will becomes our will, only truth reveals this; otherwise, we incorrectly believe it is OUR FREE WILL) and TO DO his good pleasure.
Ephesians 1:11 In whom we also have obtained an INHERITANCE, being predestinated according to the PURPOSE of him who WORKETH ALL THINGS after the council of HIS WILL.
Psalms 92:4 For thou, LORD, has made me glad through THY WORK: I will triumph in the WORKS of THY HANDS.
Psalms 92:5 O LORD, how great are THY WORKS! and thy thoughts are very deep.
Psalms 92:6 A brutish man (beast) knoweth not; neither doth a FOOL understand this.
We are ONLY the pot, pots are made to HOLD something. We were made to hold GOD (SPIRIT).
The SPIRIT does ALL THE WORK.
Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery.... CHRIST IN US (the pot) .....
romans 9:18 therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth.
romans 9:19 thou wilt say unto me, why doth he yet find fault (say we sin)? for who hath resisted his will?
no one has resisted his will; therefore, no one has free will.
philippians 2:13 for it is god (spirit) that worketh in you both to will (his will not your free will) and to do his good pleasure.
ephesians 1:11 in whom we also have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him, who worketh all things after the council of his will.
the father is at present calling out; only, the chosen (by his will; those to be priest and judges in the kingdom of god).
obadiah 1:21 and saviours (the elect) shall come upon mount zion to judge the mount of esau (at the resurrection of the dead), and the the kingdom shall be the lord's.
romans 8:19 for the earnest expectation of creation waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of god (the seed of christ, the elect, the chosen, the judges, the saviours).
romans 8:21 for the creature (creation) itself also shall be delivered (through judgement) from the bondage of corruption (flesh) into the liberty of the sons of god.
isaiah 26:9 ......for when thy judgements (at the resurrection of the dead) are in the earth the world will learn righteousness.
proverbs 16:6 by mercy and truth iniquity is purged ......
romans 11:31 even so have these (the vessels of dishonour that god hardened) also not believed, that through your mercy (at the judgement of the dead) they also obtain mercy.
god has a plan for all creation, god's will, will be done.
If you consider 1 Peter 1:2, "Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ", we can clearly see that the Elect (i.e. God's chosen) are in that blessed position because God has selected some according to His Foreknowledge. In other words, all whom God has foreordained to be His elect, will be saved. Now this is in God's department, so to speak, & not ours.
We cannot concern ourselves with what God knows, as sinful man must be in a position to hear the Gospel, be convicted of sin, & respond. So, the one who does hear & believe, can be assumed to be part of the "elect according to God's Foreknowledge". That is, God knows beforehand who will respond to the call. Those who reject the Gospel are outside of grace & can never be saved. Our "choice in the matter" is still a conscious decision we make, but made in concert with the Holy Spirit's working. Without the Gospel & without the Holy Spirit = no salvation. Many try to come another way; they're imposters.
In hyper-calvinism, God's election is taken to an extreme; where it even becomes unnecessary to share the Gospel, as God's choosing requires no response from man. Does that Church evangelize? If it does, then it's clear that they expect the sorrowful sinner to repent, believe, & be saved. The sinner's 'choice' is already in God's Plan to save him. We could ask the opposite question: can a sorrowful sinner be rejected by God because he is not foreordained to be saved? John 6:37, "All that the Father giveth me shall come to me; and him that cometh to me I will in no wise cast out." There's God's Promise of election & receiving a penitent sinner.
That's an interesting concept that we have no freewill, but it just seems to fall apart quickly with pure logic. Adam and Eve were given an choice and disobeyed God and received a punishment. Today we are given choices of whether to do good or evil and then are judged after this life according to what we have done. Romans 2:6. If there was no free will, why would anyone be judged?
I believe a movement in our society is against Christianity and they like to claim that we're only clumps of cells and that morality is only relative and that we have no choice when we do wrong. It just seems like a lazy way to rationalize committing sin and defying God. The word says to fear God who can send you to hell. Matthew 10:28. Obviously, if there was zero free will or choice then we wouldn't be continually warned to obey, avoid sin, follow Jesus. No freewill would mean everything is a charade and is meaningless. Obviously that idea is a lie and we do have freewill. I choose to respond vs not respond to this question out of my own freewill and hope to help others and help spread truth to replace lies. God bless...
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I have come to the conclusion that if we would look at the word "Faith" in this light, it
would sum the whole matter.
"Forget ALL Impossibilites" "Trust Him"