Romans Chapter 8 Discussion Page 12

U need the blood. Not just faith. U need the blood over you. This pastor explains alot. Search up on youtube the Palm Beach Sanctuary Of The Palm Beaches. U can search it on Youtube or on the web.

For the law of the Spirit of life - That is, the doctrine of divine grace in the gospel, accompanied with the quickening, commanding influence of the Holy Spirit, hath made me free from the law of sin and death - That is, not only from the Mosaic dispensation, which, if relied on for justification, left men under the guilt and power of sin, and condemned them to the second death; but also and especially from the law, or constraining power of sin itself, which is attended with spiritual death, and, if not removed, brings men to death eternal. In other words, "The Spirit of Christ, giving me a new life, is now another law, or rule of my actions, freeing me from the motions and power of sin, to which I was subject while under the [Mosaic] law, and from the death to which that law subjected me; or, the gospel, attended with the Spirit, hath wrought this freedom in me." So Whitby. The gospel, or covenant of grace, may be fitly termed the law of the Spirit, or a spiritual law; and that not only as it reaches to the spirit of man, but is such a law as gives spiritual life, or is the ministration of the Spirit, and of life, 2 Corinthians 3:6; 2 Corinthians 3:8; being accompanied with a divine power, which communicates spiritual life to the soul here, and prepares it for eternal life hereafter. It is observable, that the person who speaks in the foregoing chapter is introduced here as continuing the discourse, and showing the method in which his deliverance from the body of sin and death, mentioned Romans 7:25, was accomplished. And what is affirmed concerning him, is intended of other believers also. Here, therefore, we have a second motive to holiness, namely, that under the new covenant sufficient assistance being given to all who in faith and prayer apply for it, to free them from the law of sin and death, they cannot excuse their sins by pleading the strength of their sinful passions, or the depravity of their nature.

Matthew Henry's Concise

Romans 8:15

For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear, but ye have received the Sprit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

in ROMAN 8:30 what does predestine mean this chapter? in my King James Study Bible is says its meaning is not the same as what we think of predestined. help.

Predestination refers to first Earth age- Genesis 1:1. It was perfect and beautiful. We all existed in Spirit bodies. Genesis 1:2 refers to the destruction of the first Earth age. It will take too long in writing to explain so I refer you to YouTube. Three world ages Shepherds Chapel. Find out about the elect. Those that stood with God ago lucifer. This is the mystery that Paul writes about.

Thank you for sharing your testimony

Could someone explain predestination to me? Does that mean that someone could be thinking they are saved but are not? Could that mean we are praying for some that have no chance? I must have this wrong, how will someone know if they are truly saved? How do i explain this to those who ask me?

How can you get plum blossoms without any cold and bone?

We are creatures here on earth,subject unto those things outside of the spirit of God who created us! Paul refers this as vanity. With all this we have to do with, can be described as the inner workings of a person in this world. "the kingdom of heaven within us".When we learn the truths of God, there is a transformation that takes place a renewing of the mind and spirit. A transfiguring developed through growth in the gospel message. This love is the love He has towards us in Jesus who calls all people unto himself! Our predestination is given through this saving faith in the knowledge of Him who calls us. Christ , is the way the truth and the life. Pray without ceasing, Remember that you are reading Gods word.Not mans.

Hi Christin,

God bless you for requesting prayer and desiring Him. When you mention confusion, I thought of one of my favorite verses, and would like to share it with you. "For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace..." 1 Cor 14:33

Also, you're not alone - we're all weak and foolish and the devil is attacking us all - we're all in this together, and can help each other. Courage to you!

And too, could it be that the Heavenly Father is in great anger because humanity won't turn back to Him. Times after times after times He have sent warnings. He wants us to come back to Him. By repentance, that's the ONLY way. We can't come to the Father but by Jesus Christ.

We have seen plaque after plaque after plaque so now the whole world is in time out. From Genesis to Malachi, From Matthew to Rev. We still said, not now God. BUT God is saying, get in the corner and be quiet. It will leave to go out from under the blood, you may DIE. Stay inside and live.

Read Galatians 6:7 Read 2Peter 3:9 and of course Read 3:10.

Thank you for this discussion form and relevant topic as such for god....

Danny, spend your time in God's word and pray for deliverance. As long as you have accepted Jesus as your Lord and savior He will deliver you and help you. Seek first the Kingdom of God and all these things will be added to you. You have to seek God for His guidance in your life. Reading your Bible and praying will help you. God be with you and bless you.

It is, without a doubt, God's Will for you to be healed. Which way He will heal you is yet to be determined. Your part is to trust His leading and keep the faith; His part is to keep His Word and heal you( Matt. 8:7). He is well able to do it and He will.

Kat all you write is true. The Greek New testament word for sorcery and witchcraft is the same root word as pharmacy.

These are the same group who want to inject us with vaccines that down the road they find out were dangerous.

Antichrists like Bill Gates want us all to get jabbed with God (and the devil) knows what.

Some Vaccines contain Thimerosal which is mercury with a fancy name.

Look up Mercury poisoning symptoms and autism symptoms and see if they match.

Mercury has no known usefulness in the Body and is a known poison.

I also believe their are trying to kill and damage the people of the Lord.

Most drugs given, alter the Brain, measurably. A normal brain can go dark like an Alzheimer's brain. Street drugs are worse. You should read up on this stuff. Some drugs prevent the brains ability to use or produce serotonin; the happiness hormone. Even if you take anti-psychotics they can cause serious paranoia, can't sleep on your own, and other bad things. You have to ask God to DELIVER you from them. Sorcerers in the Bible are the maker of ancient drugs. They don't know that the Bible delivers the death penalty for doing that. Do a word study on sorcery.

The Bible mentions that prayer with fasting may be needed to be delivered of drugs that hurt you. It might help to have corporate prayer and laying on of hands. Pass the info forward ok? Help someone else out.

I found all this out for my sister who refuses to give up her suitcase of many colored pills :(

Sadie,

About 10 years ago, I went through the same things you described. However, I was able to recognize that this was a side effect/ evil invitation because I had for the first time in my life just been prescribed antidepressants. The antidepressant that I was prescribed, actually given free samples of, caused all your mentioned symptoms.

Not many days after taking the pills every day the symptoms began. Every night I had the worst nightmares of my life, dreaming that I was being chased by a serial killer and this would cause me to wake up sweating and panting rapidly.

This would occur every single night without fail. I truly believe big pharma to be in coercion with satan. As well, whenever I saw or heard something sad happened, for instance someone dying, I had absolutely no emotions towards it. I was completely numb. No sympathy or empathy. Just nothingness. These symptoms really frightened me to the core. I knew this was not how God intended me to live.

All my symptoms ended completely after discontinuing taking the antidepressants.

Even if you aren't taking drugs prescribed or street drugs, this is obviously demonic attacks on you and you need to try to determine if there is something you can do to stop it like I was able to or if you need divine intervention through spiritual cleanliness. Stay in the faith.

God and Jesus work through unwavering faith/ your belief. If you even second guess that God and Jesus cannot deliver you from evil, then you will not be delivered from it. But if you believe 100% and stay in the faith, your healing will come.

I pray the best for you and your healing.

Hi Sadie,

I'm proud of you for sharing your struggle. I am reminded of a verse that really impressed me recently. Exodus 33:14 "And he said, My presence shall go with thee, and I will give thee rest." Isn't that such a comforting promise? I pray you can experience that! God bless.

thank you for your advice brothers in christ, I believe that through prayer the Lord can perform miracles. God bless you.Amen

As long as the road is right, you are not afraid of the road

(further comment). What Muslims say: that Jesus is claimed by Christians to be another god, is in fact incorrect, as His Word (i.e. God's declarations & commands) was sent to the Jews in the form of a man, Jesus (God's Word & Messenger). Our God is One & beside Him there is no other ( Isaiah 44 & 45 give many examples). And this Word was made a man & had to become one of us for the sole purpose of the laying down of His Life for the sins for all people. If it was only a matter of bringing God's Message, then the prophets had done God's Will. But Jesus' task was far more: He had to make payment for mankind's sins, a payment that no one else could because everyone else were sinners, & Jesus was sinless before God. Halim, I know you are aware of what I've written, but have mentioned it, so your thoughts & prayers for your wife & sharing with her, might remain in focus with Scripture. God bless you & I will keep your family in my prayers.

Halim, Carl has given you good advice: your life & quiet witness (as maybe different to what she sees in other Muslims) will undoubtedly speak to her of a true spiritual change in you & of the deep Work of God in you through Jesus Christ. I have spent much time with dear Muslims in Pakistan many years ago & even though I found most ignorant of al-Quran (probably because they had to read it in Arabic, which they didn't know), they were receptive to what I could share. If your wife allows, & you know what she has difficulty in accepting (e.g. the Trinity, the Bible, Sin, Salvation, etc.), then you can carefully explain the Truths, even by using al-Quran. For example, to introduce the Trinity (esp. Sonship of Jesus), I would refer to Surah-an-Nisa (4:171), which speaks of Jesus, not only a messenger from Allah, but also His Word & Soul FROM HIM. John 1:1-14 declares the same thing: the Word was with God - the Word was God & this Word was given flesh (=Soul).(see following comments).

Carl, thank you for this encouraging words. God bless you and your family.Amen

Hi Halim, I am so happy to hear you are born again! There is good hope for your wife too. 1 Corinthians 7 says the unbelieving wife might be won over by the believing husband. Let her see the joy and peace in your life as a born again believer and God will work miracles!

Doina, I'm sorry to hear you're having a hard time. I have them too and wish I didn't, but there is a silver lining found in 1 Peter 5:10. All the best to you!

Christ being the 1st born of many BRETHREN is good news for us it implies Christ is gonna go forth and sow his seed in US sinners initiating a birth of Christ in US Th Child is the remnant of his BRETHREN the H.G PLURAL.Thats y the woman is giving birth in Rev 12 she is bringing forth the remnant of his BRETHREN. Micah 5 says he wd give them up till the woman is in birth pains then the remnant of his BRETHREN wd return unto Israel Thats y the new birth is so important its the means in which God wil bring forth the remnant of his BRETHREN,therefore shall he give them up till she that is in travail has given birth thats the woman in rev 12, ISAIAH SAYS UNTO US A CHILD IS BORN, HIS BRETHREN GBU.

Jesus was truly the 1st born of many Brethren simply b/c that was the great Promise that God made to Christ I will multiply thy seed as the stars of heaven. Thats y he refers to himself as the son of man, mankind is gonna birth Christ in his hearts.Thats y the sower of the good seed wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts that it might initiate a heavenly birth which is the H.G. THE CHILDREN OF PROMISE.Also romans 8 Tells US Jesus wd be the 1st born of many brethren simply via his seed the word. The multiplication of issac was just a metaphor that Christ wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven via that good seed the words of the new covenant.Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed etc.

I pray for Darice Romans8:34
I pray for your parents and this whole covid19 situation to come to a halt

Praying for Selin Romans8:34
I understand your dilema.

New Jersey Mass Choir Lyrics


O The Blood Of Jesus



O the blood of Jesus,
O the blood of Jesus,
O the blood of Jesus,
it will never lose its power.

Bridge
He was despised and rejected,
a man of sorrow acquainted with grief.
Wounded for our transgression,
He was bruised for our iniquities.

Ooh
(But still He rose up that third morning,
He got up with all power in His hands);
Going back to His Father in glory
and He's soon to come again.

Vamp
Never gonna lose,
never ever gonna lose it's power,
365 days of the year,
every second, every minute, every hour.
Never gonna lose,
never ever gonna lose it's power

Ending
It will never lose it's power