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To me, the better question is why wouldn't you want to be baptized? If the Bible says to do something, shouldn't the normal response for a Christian be to follow it? In the event someone is looking to do the least as possible in order to just barely make the cut to go to heaven, is that a wise strategy and what if it backfires? These are the types of questions I would ask instead. God bless...
Book 1: Psalms 1-41
Book 2: Psalms 42-72
Book 3: Psalms 73-89
Book 4: Psalms 90-106
Book 5: Psalms 107-150
It appears that each of these five books ends with a doxology or a praise, either "Praise the Lord!" or "Amen."
So my eventual question to brother Michael would have been: can a person, baptised & filled with the Spirit, still pray in a known language seeing that when he prays he must needs use that Gift of praying in Tongues? Or, another way of putting it: would he no longer be praying in the Spirit if he chose to use a known/learned language? And if this is the case, then how could those who only pray in a known language (like you & me), be accused of not praying in the Spirit?
Maybe, it all boils down to whether a believer falls into that 'group' of people who spoke in Tongues when they first believed rather than a question of what language is used in prayer. I never seem to learn how all this works with those who not only have this Gift but insist that all believers must also have it. It seems the Word says one thing but a large body of believers interpret the matter differently.
Just to let you know, I'm away on holidays presently for three weeks, so will be contributing very little, if at all, on this Site. Every blessing.
As I was reading today and came across these verses I thought of you and about understanding our prayers to the Lord.
( 1 Corinthians 14:14-15
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.
Hope all is well. God Bless.
is in my youngest memories..
In the green pastures i will forever find her there ...
Beside the still waters she plays without a care...
By her tiny right hand God led her to this place...
He let her little body fall
And set a choice all Gods children face...
No words were spoken by her Heavenly Father that fleshy ears would hear...
Her soul was gathered in God's love that innocently was without fear...
He gave her the choice of to live or to die..
She chose to live and she told her Heavenly Father why..
She knew by death ... here she would remain..
In the presence of God's love .. no words can explain..
She answered
"" i would like to live so i can play""
God restored her soul. By his gift of life. ...is the very breath she breathed..
Where she had fallen as dead upon the grass ..
Her first death has come to pass...
God opened her eyes
She was able to see...
There was no veil to divide....
God opened her ears to hear.. upon her heart he wrote his law for her life she would abide..
He planted a seed and its hidden in her heart...
Such a gift found in the words she sews....
In Gods love she continues to grow..
this is part of a book of remembrance written and preserved as a testimony of the living God . It was written by living hands to share the love of God.
I don't know a thing about ancient Hebrew, but I looked this up for you
The letter Vav is the sixth letter in the Hebrew alphabet. Through the ancient Phoenician language, the letter Vav actually became the modern letter "F" used in the English and Latin alphabets.
If you Googled "Hebrew alphabet" there's a Wikopedia article that shows the appropriate European equivalent and there's no W. There are, however 2 V sounding characters, one of which is Vav and Vav does have a W equivalence in some respects, for whatever that may mean.
Who can pray better on our behalf then the Holy Spirit ..God is a spirit thats all i know ..and when i pray in tongues i know i am in the presence of God and all things possible to God ...
What i have learnt on here is this ...( people not christians telling God what they know and not willing to learn what God has asked us to do ... )
God set out a precept in his word that God inspired men to write so we could learn of God and what he wanted us to do...through the Holy Spirit who would guide us in all truth ...
What more can i say when in the... Book oF Jude tells us to pray always in the Holy Ghost building up our most Holy Faith praying in the Holy Ghost and in
1CORINTHIANS: 14v 14 says .. When i pray in and unknown tongue my Spirit prayeth ...
I thank God he asked me if i was willing to learn of him stepped into his understanding of the Gospel not what i was taught and have seen many miracles in my life where i should be dead ...
Example of one ...
i own a black SS ute called a Brock special Limited edition with a 5.7 chevy V8 in it ...I use to drive in the country area hitting large pot holes and corrugated roads not knowing in doing so it had caused the bracket to fracture that holds the steering arm on to the point is was coming off .one day my friend said to me never drive faster then your angel and to slow down and that i am not to go back into the country for work ... those words saved my life ...the following day my steering rack fell off the K frame of the car that holds the steering arm on ....
1 Corinthians 14:39 does say "forbid not to speak with tongues", but does that mean that everybody has that gift, or does it mean that if you have that gift, then you should use it for God's Glory? Whereas, 1 Corinthians 12:30: "Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?", seems to show us that Paul recognized that not all Spirit-filled believers, spoke in Tongues, nor can they heal, interpret, etc. There appears a contradiction of Paul's message, if one is to believe that both Scriptures mean the same thing.
98% of born again Christians never become spiritual adults
Growing up Spiritually does not happen automatically. Spiritual growth only comes from studying the Scriptures until Christ be formed in you. Galatians 4:19 "My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,"
2 Timothy 2:15 "Study to show thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."
Lets take a look at second timothy chapter three, verses sixteen and seventeen. 2 Timothy 3:16-17 "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works." "THAT THE MAN OF GOD MAY BE PERFECT" ANOTHER WORD FOR "PERFECT" IS "MATURE" As you study, you grow in to an Adult Christian, Peter said "As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:" A new born Christian baby can do just about anything that an unsaved person can do; so we all need to grow up.
I replied to you on another posting but it was not placed up on here for you because i wrote to all on the heading or any one to view truth is always hidden when it comes down to making people accountable.....what has amazed me here is no one knows their bible according to the power of God and what it means to have have the fullness of God...
The Holy Ghost is a Spirit and he is the intercessor who prays on our behalf in the unknown tongue everyone finds hard to accept because they cannot understand what the Holy Spirit prays on our behalf neither do i because the Bible tells us it peays for us about things we do or have done to bring change to grow in faith all i know is when i have pray i feel alot of Joy and peace and i feel right with God and feel full of spiritual Power..
John chapter 3 says it all and the scripture is not taught right about it pastors telling people you acn receive the Holy Spirit without speaking in tongues it like saysing you can drive a car with out fuel or these days an electric car without power....
I am sadden as Jesus would be and God the father to see people explain away what God says we can build up our most Holy Faith before God the father being prepared spiritually to be with him...praying in the Holy Ghost
You have all talked about love charity not understanding the real fullness of God by the Holy Spirit if you all did you would know that the fulness of God that the unknown tongue we pray in is the Holy Spirit praying on behalf of you or us to God the Father the intercessor that gives us hope..
God said he has not given us the Spirit of Fear but of Power Love and sound mind....Fulness Of God..
To tell people its not necessary makes you answerable to God for blasphemy denying the and preaching the gospel unfaithfully..
You have all said what i say not what Jesus said the experience we would have that God The Father would give the Holy Spirit to those who would obey him to enter into the Kingdom of God.
A man called Nicodemus asked Jesus John C3 what he must do to to be saved..
The mighty rushing wind referrers to the infilling of the Holy Spirit ..the sound referrers to a voice given to indenitify you can speak in a spiritual tongue to God .....
1 ) To answer your first question i only pray in tongues and find i am put in the presence of God when i do
an amazing experience to be in God presence on your knees.
2 ) Book of Jude verse 20 says....( answer to 1 Corinthians 28 to 30)
But ye, beloved, building up your most Holy Faith. praying in the Holy
Ghost, ( and the reason why we pray in tongues )
1 CORINTHIANS14 verse 39 says ...
Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak in
tongues...
2 ) 1 CORINTHIANS 20 to 30 ...
1. when you pray, do you use the Gift of Tongues (speaking in an unlearned language) or do you pray in a known language?
2. how do you understand 1 Corinthians 12:28-30, & specifically in relation to Tongues?
John 8:32 says ..And ye shall know the truth , and the truth shall make you free.......
Whats happening today i see people reading and buying books of other peoples experiences
and believing more what people write about rather then just read the bible and share the experience in company
of the saints in fellowship ...and in order people share what God has done for them ..In Jesus name
Christians are not reading the Bible their reading what Pastors are writing and then compare what he or she has said with the Bible....believing more what the Pastor has written ......
I have had christians say but the Pastor said this and the believe the Pators book over the bible and others people experience ....
WHen i wrote about healing Jesus layed hands on the sick to heal them and on the dead to raise them back to life
and the blind man and the leper etc ...
The Bible is not written to the understanding of natural man even though many claim they understand it if they did we would all agree with the Word of God proving God right only everyone wants to be right ....
I use scripture makes what people write accountable to God with what they reply and say ....To change or add to the gospel means you add the plagues of the bible to your life and takes you out of the book of life ...Thats why i wrote i agree with whats written that Jesus said we should do to be saved ...
My 1 Favourite scriptures is what Jesus said .... John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and i know them, and they follow me