Susanna Chapter 1 Discussion

Brother Peter:

Is Jesus Christ a LAMB.

Is Jesus Christ a TREE.

Is Jesus Christ a ROCK or STONE.

Is Jesus Christ a MOUNTAIN.

Is Jesus Christ WATER.

Is Jesus Christ a FOUNTAIN.

Is Jesus Christ a FIRE.

Is Jesus Christ an ANGEL.

Is Jesus Christ a SWORD, ETC.

There are hundreds of metaphors used to describe CHRIST and GOD.

Sun and Moon happen to be one of those metaphors.

You will never understand the WORD, until you understand the metaphors and parables of God.

May God Bless YOU.

God is Not a sun , but his creation , Jesus is not a moon , he's son of the living God. U are deceiving people by saying God the Sun , Son the moon .

You are very kind to me , I shall protest though smiley face , I know for sure that I don't know anything about scripture that isn't there in black and white for anyone and everyone else to know . I'm just the same as everyone else , two eyes one brain and one heart , all I do is try to keep them open and connect the dots , anyone can do that , some times I get it very wrong smiley face , i do love to be provoked by others view points even if I don't agree with everything some one says , there can still be little gems in their posts . Much love in Christ .

I did reply to your post but I'm not sure that you will get it in your e mail , you may have to look through this whole thread to find it , sorry about that , thank you .

Sister Suze:

You are very knowledgeable in the scriptures, and you didn't get there by not understanding that a great deal of scriptures are symbolised or signified.

Revelation 1:1 .....and SIGNIFIED IT ......

Revelation 12:i And there appeared a great wonder in heaven .....

Is heaven the physical, OR, signified? the word says it's signified.

The woman also is signified, being Christ's church, or his bride.

The wonder IN HEAVEN is a woman, the church, the bride of Christ, YOU ARE HEAVEN, the abode of GOD and Christ at his right hand.

Revelation 12:1 And there appeared a great wonder IN SUZE; SUZE clothed with the SUN (the Father abiding in SUZE, and the MOON (Christ, the faithful witness IN HEAVEN) under SUZE'S feet, and upon SUZE'S head a crown of twelve stars (an innumerable company of angels, ministering spirits).

Psalms 84:11 The LORD God is a SUN (signified) and shield: the LORD (the sun) will give GRACE and GLORY: no good thing will he (the sun) withhold from them (SUZE) that walk uprightly.

Psalms 121:6 The SUN (the Father) shall not smite thee by day, nor the MOON (Christ, the faithful witness in heaven) by night.

Psalms 89:35 Once have I (the Father) sworn by my holiness that I will not lie unto David.

Psalms 89:36 HIS SEED (CHRIST'S SEED)(SUZE the SEED) shall endure forever, and his (Christ's) throne as the SUN (the Father) before me (Christ).

Psalms 89:37 It (Christ's throne, SUZE the throne, set in heaven) shall be established forever as the MOON (Christ), as my faithful witness IN HEAVEN (IN SUZE).

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is MY FAITHFUL WITNESS ......in HEAVEN, in SUZE, this mystery .....CHRIST IN YOU ......

God Bless you.

The Heavens declare the Glory of God in V 1 , then in V 4 in them ( the heavens ) hath he set a tabernacle for the sun . I'm not comfortable asigning astronomical symbolism to God and Jesus . Some people believe that the Bible does that occasionally , that's fine but I don't think that it's for us to do so . It's a bit too close to astrology for my liking . I hope I have explained the connection from V 1 to V 4 adequately enough . Much love in Christ

Thanks may God bless you always

Amen Jackie:

God uses parables, and symbolism through his word.

We, through the working or the Holy Spirit, have to break down the symbolism to make all scriptures agree with themselves.

Psalms 19:1 The heavens show his handy work ....

John 3:13 No man has ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is IN HEAVEN.

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ....CHRIST IN YOU ....

YOU and I (the heavens) show his handy work and glory

Psalms 19:2 Day unto day uttereth speech, night unto night sheweth knowledge.

Literal day cannot speak, nor literal night show knowledge.

You and I speak, by the working of the Holy Spirit.

Psalms 12:4 Who have said, With our tongue we shall prevail, our lips are our own, who is Lord over us.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH IN YOU (this mystery, Christ in you) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

Psalms 139:12 Yea the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.

Psalms 19:4 Their (speech and knowledge)(Christ in you) line have gone through out all the earth, and their word (Christ in you), in them (You and I) (Christ in you) he hath set a tabernacle (you are the temple of God 1 Corinthians 3:16) for the SUN (the Father).

Revelation 21:22 And I saw no temple there in: For the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the TEMPLE OF IT (Christ in you).

Psalms 19:5 Which as a bridegroom cometh out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race.

Isaiah 61:10 I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul (body, Christ in you) shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation (Christ in you), he hath covered (blood of Christ) me with the rob of righteousness (Christ in you), as a BRIDEGROOM decketh himself with ornaments (Christ in you), and as a BRIDE (You and I) adorneth herself WITH HER JEWELS (Christ in you).

I'm out of characters I hope you see the picture.

God bless you.

Amen you seem to be very knowledgeable about the Bible i like to share this with you and see what you think in psalm 19:1-6 The heavens declare the glory of God and the firmament sheweth his handywork 2 Day unto day uttereth speech and night unto night sheweth knowledge 3 There is no speech nor language where their voice is not heard 4 Their line is gone out through all the earth and their words to the end of the world. IN them hath he set a tabernacle for the sun. I have wondered what was they saying and led me to this the sun is a ambassador of the son of God Jesus because without the physical sun the world will die and all life on it without Jesus the son of God all will die. The moon represents the Holy ghost to give us light in a dark world until the son (sun) returns please let me know what you think may God bless you always

Dear Peter,

Saturday is named after the god Saturn. Pagans worship the planets as gods along with the sun. But the sun and planets are part of God's creation and our physical universe. Romans 1 says that we are not to worship the creation but the creator. So, since we do worship the one true God, it is good to worship Him every day, no matter what name people come up with to name the days of the week. I have never thought of a pagan god when saying the names of the week.

Correction: I wrote Monday, but meant Sunday.

Hi Peter,

It sounds like you're assuming the Sabbath and worshipping God are supposed to be the same day instead of two separate days. Do you recall what led you to draw this conclusion?

We are to worship, follow, and honor God every day. First century Christians met on the first day of the week which I believe is Sunday. This custom has continued until today, but it is good to gather and worship anytime. Jesus was resurrected on Monday and some believe this is the Lord's Day. Bible references: Acts 20:7, 1 Cor 16:1-2, Psalms 118:24

I noticed you tried to discredit Sunday by referring to a pagan name, but not Saturday even though the same smear tactic could be applied. For me, pagans don't own the days, don't own the names, and have no power, just like they don't own Christmas and won't prevent me from celebrating Christ's birth, and just how sodomites don't own the rainbow, which God made and means God's promise, not the sin that some cults and loud bullies associate with it.

Why people worship Sunday the god of the Sun stad of Sabbath day the Saturday 7th day of the week. Jesus kept sabbath ( Saturday )holly . If Jesus kept Sabbath day Holly, shouldn't man do the same ?

Ephesians 4:30 30And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.

Most of us grieves the Holy Spirit = when we disobey our Lord, the Holy Spirit is burden with sorrow, so it cannot blend or unite with our human spirit. When we: lie, even white lies but don't repent, gossip, spread false doctrine, judge others, unkind or ungodly thoughts, finding faults with others, blaming others for our mistakes, anger and being deceitful, manipulating others to get your ways, self-justification, adultery, fornication, stubbornness, prideful, refuse to speak to family members, homosexuality, others.



1 John 2:15 - 16 15Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. 16For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Here are four specific examples of situations in which the disciples didn't "get it," Holy Spirit not in them.

In John 4:31-34, the disciples encouraged Jesus to eat, and He replied, "I have food to eat of which you do not know." Jesus' closest followers thought their Master was referring to physical food, so He explained to them, "My food is to do the will of Him who sent Me, and to finish His work."

Matthew and Mark report that Jesus taught His hearers that certain things coming out of an individual defile him or her, not specific, forbidden foods that enter into a person or failing to perform a ritual such as hand washing. The disciples asked for an explanation. Jesus gently rebuked them and explained real problems arose from "evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders, thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lewdness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness." Every one of "these evil things," He said, "come from within and defile a man" ( Mark 7:21-23).

This can happen to us today, if and when we grieve the Holy Spirit.

No. The differences in the Holy Spirit of God & us mere mortals is so vast, that a comparison would be both unwarranted & fruitless. The Person & the Work of the Holy Spirit is of God entirely; it would be like comparing ourselves to the Being & Nature of God. Yet, the Holy Spirit chooses to indwell every child of God to help us, comfort us, teach us & most of all, to gradually bring us closer to God & in becoming more & more as He wants His children to be.

Is it in order for us to compare ourselves with the holy spirit

I Thank God for Susanna, she held to her faith in God. She would rather die from a lie then sin against The Most High God. Reminds me of the Hebrew Boys and Daniel keeping there faith in God rather then sin against him.

It's easy to see the reason this book was not added. They did not want to show that the spirit of the God could cause one to impugn authority. We are more often taught as Christians to cater to authority and suffer for Christ's sake. But no man is above scrutiny in the eyes of God and we should challenge our leaders for righteousness sake as well as have faith as Susanna.

I have known and heard this story ever since I was young and it affected me in many actions I have done. I always kept in mind to be honest for God knows everything, and it is better to be condemned for doing nothing than to be praised for wrongdoings. It's sad that this story isn't in most bibles people have. A true gem.

I am upset that these books were taken out of the bible. They were part of the kjv at the beginning, but someone in the late 1800's took it upon them selves to delete these books. These books are very inspirational and maybe we as Christian should see about getting these books back in the kjv. God bless.

This story reaffirms that God sees and knows all, the wickedness of men will always be revealed.

This book is very comforting to me where I just like Susanna was falsely accused of inmoral behavoir by my employer and endured taunting. Discredit and mockery even the lost of many job opportunities, but God is faithful and has given me endurance. I 'm still victorious against all the enemies of my soul and alive in him!

Good story as it relates to real life situations. Thank God he hears and answers our prayers. Where can I find this story in the Holy Bible?

This encourages me that the LORD does hear and deliver all His children including women. Women and girls need to know this.

I like verse 44: And the Lord heard her voice. She was put in a situation to be blackmailed if she didn 't have relations with these 2 old perverts. She prayed and God heard her and helped her out of this situation. Good story.

It happens so much in company 's where we work people falsely accuse us of thing we did not do they want to finish us of and take what is ours then they Lie about it they lust for what we have and will do anything to get it and put us in a corner and thing like this happen all the time can I say and I think when it comes to that we can cry out to God that knows everything and He will fight our case he will speak through an unknown tongue

There has been deceit in high places for sure

great hero and trusted

the LORD wants us to reach our end because our end is the beginning of GOD

i dont see any thing wrong and why it was ommitted or taken as apocrybha