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Hebrews 13:17

Obey them (CHURCH) that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Wesley's Notes for Hebrews 13:17

Obey them that have the rule over you - The word implies also, that lead or guide you; namely, in truth and holiness. And submit yourselves - Give up (not your conscience or judgment, but) your own will, in all things purely indifferent. For they watch over your souls - With all zeal and diligence, they guard and caution you against all danger. As they that must give account.

People's Bible Notes for Hebrews 13:17

Obey them that have the rule over you. Your elders or bishops. For they watch for your souls. Give them deference on this account, and because they must give account to the Master of those committed to their trust.

Jeremiah 42:6

Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we OBEY the voice of the LORD our God.

Hebrews 5

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY HIM.

10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

COMMENT: What the President is doing is illegal. He has lawsuits pending against him.

Practice safety and cleanliness. Lepers in the Old Testament we're avoided. Covid is not leprosy. It is a PESTILENCE ( Matthew 24). Avoid sick people till they recover. JESUS STILL HEALS THE SICK.

People mis-quote that scripture and say: Obey the Government. That's why I posted all this. Obey your Pastor, Teachers, Church.

I got a shot before it was discovered what is in it. I would've refused had anyone told the truth. I'm 70. I prayed for the Lord to forgive me. Lesson learned. We must obey God.

Matthew 24, Luke 21

Hebrews 13:17

Obey them (CHURCH) that have the rule over you, and submit yourselves: for they watch for your souls, as they that must give account, that they may do it with joy, and not with grief: for that is unprofitable for you.

Wesley's Notes for Hebrews 13:17

Obey them that have the rule over you - The word implies also, that lead or guide you; namely, in truth and holiness. And submit yourselves - Give up (not your conscience or judgment, but) your own will, in all things purely indifferent. For they watch over your souls - With all zeal and diligence, they guard and caution you against all danger. As they that must give account.

People's Bible Notes for Hebrews 13:17

Obey them that have the rule over you. Your elders or bishops. For they watch for your souls. Give them deference on this account, and because they must give account to the Master of those committed to their trust.

Jeremiah 42:6

Whether it be good, or whether it be evil, we will obey the voice of the LORD our God, to whom we send thee; that it may be well with us, when we OBEY the voice of the LORD our God.

Hebrews 5

8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that OBEY HIM.

10 Called of God an high priest after the order of Melchisedec.

COMMENT: What the President is doing is illegal. He has lawsuits pending against him.

Practice safety and cleanliness. Lepers in the Old Testament we're avoided. Covid is not leprosy. It is a PESTILENCE ( Matthew 24). Avoid sick people till they recover. JESUS STILL HEALS THE SICK.

People mis-quote that scripture and say: Obey the Government. That's why I posted all this. Obey your Pastor, Teachers, Church.

I got a shot before it was discovered what is in it. I would've refused had anyone told the truth. I'm 70. I prayed for the Lord to forgive me. Lesson learned. We must obey God.

Matthew 24, Luke 21

Dear "David" some is thru, in Europa the fences from those who is outside built higher and higher. Need passport on vaccines, evan in own country. Go shopping and public places.

These passports will be controlled at borders. And evan by the Police if they ask. Soo it get tighter for all ppl, not only christian ppl. Becouse of the great resistance. If u have taken the vaccines u are free too go.

But am not afraid, we who have changed from stone too flech. We know that Jesus has an outlet for us. Be blessed in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ.

Ephesians 4:17 This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the vanity of their mind,

18 Having the understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God through the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart:

19 Who being past feeling have given themselves over unto lasciviousness, to work all uncleanness with greediness.

20 But ye have not so learned Christ;

21 If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus:

22 That ye put off concerning the former conversation the old man, which is corrupt according to the deceitful lusts;

23 And be renewed in the spirit of your mind;

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

Dear Adam u can have right, but am not sure, example all the anger in the States now a days is breeds only evil. And why? Not evan 55% have taken covid vaccine. AFTER 2 YEARS! Everything is still down, like school's many places. This make the anger, and it's dangerous.

For what? I'll remember a word from the holy script in Christ: Our dear Paul said In Titus 3:1 Put them in mind to be subject to principalities and powers, to obey magistrates, to be ready to every good work,

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

We all need too see this and subordinate us. Be blessed in the Holy Name above all other name under the sky's Jesus Christ forever King in eternity. He will have the praise and glory, not me. He be exalted for ever and ever Amen.

Israel has been researching the properties of Ivermectin which defeats covid, has less serious side effects. They've published some good reports on it.

I haven't looked for more reports yet. I rad that on JerusalemPostDOTcom. I'm sure you can search by Google for updates on that research.

Blessed Thanksgiving.

I have a few remedies that work for viruses, I will share them and there are many .

Garlic { fresh } not old or powered or capsules.

Turmeric , oil of oregano, and table salt . All proven and effective. And I'm sure there are many other natural remedies that work .

They will not bring money because they can not be patented. Yes it's all about the money . Big pharma is raking billions and tens of billions of dollars .

I believe the covid 19 is all a scam . Even after 2 yrs of it .

If you do research you will find man has been playing around with viruses for years . Nothing new here to see , just a bigger scam .

Do not get vaccines, are they now on the 3rd or 4th ? Proof the 1 st did not work , where does it end ?

Hi Dgjot,

I think the covid vaccine is evil, because it is a human-made experiment containing baby abortion parts and toxic spike protein which have already killed thousands to millions of innocents. But as bad of an atrocity this is, I don't believe it's the mark of the beast (yet), because of what it says in Rev 13 getting a mark on forehead or right hand.

Regarding 666 numbers, people can make random connections seem not random and through confirmation bias it seems like a connection when it isn't. I believe the birthday paradox is a similar phenomemon where people don't expect to see numbers connected so easily and when they do they tend to draw false assumptions from it.

I personally believe anyone deceived into getting it is not at fault. There are a lot of lies in the media and some didn't know it was a lie.

I personally think the masks have resulted to a mass increase in pneumonia deaths. Of course they call all of those deaths as covid deaths just like they call the vaccine deaths as covid deaths. And the death count I believe is a lie- they are counting normal deaths as covid so they can get more $ from the government Cares Act.

As far as obeying the law and giving taxes as the Bible suggests, I believe that is what we are to do until it comes to a moral or ethical decision and we stay allegient to God, not the government. The government is involved in all kinds of evil and oppression, so of course we can't follow everything someone in power says to do. That is my opinion on how to balance those.

People continue to lie and deny all the vaccine deaths which is now like denying the holocaust. Pray for the families who have lost loved ones due to these lies.

God bless...

Seeking list of nations requiring covid shot to be able to "buy and sell".

In regards to Titus 3:1

I was on another website and a person said (in regards to the Covid virus regulations) the "wearing of a mask and distancing 6 feet is Satanic and idol worship."

Titus 3:1 says we are supposed to be subject to our masters- (even if it's the Government or State?)

Now I'm worried.

Also, I haven't taken the "vaccine" because I think IT IS Satanic.

I can understand where that person is coming from. I'm sure the virus is a man-made, deliberate death sentence to decrease the population. People are dying from that untested, toxic cocktail of biohazard waste. And they are forcing people to take it- OR ELSE. At first I wondered, "Could this be the mark of the beast?" I don't think it is but it illustrates how deceived people are. If they will run to get vaccinated, imagine how fast they will run when the antichrist shows up.

What are your thoughts on this dog and pony show??

Linda : The Father, Son ,and the Holy Spirit are three distinct beings, yet they are still one. You cannot have one without having all three.

Is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost one? Is Jesus separate from the Father? Was the Father in heaven when Jesus was on earth?

I went to Jesus Only church, but not anymore. Thanks Linda

John 2:45

I see you are back in your frustrated attack mode again. As Paul stated 'those of the true church (spiritual church of God) shall die daily.'

I have given you enough information and scripture to answer all of your questions. As usual, meaning (from conversation with many other physical motivated christian's,) you have ears that hear and eyes that cannot see. Again I feel sorrow for that, with the hope that sometime this sorrow may bring your repentance, that is my hope; yes, your repentance. Each and every time is converse with other's such as yourself it reinforces why Jesus upset the 'table outside the temple'. May your day be full, of physical joy and happiness anh with hope you will understand the words of brother Paul in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-11. Peace.

Commendable Comment Richard

Interesting. So after 60 years of "intense" study of the Bible that is all you can say to me? I must state again. You proclaim there is no unforgivable sin(blasphemy of the Holy Ghost) though Jesus Christ says there is. ( 2 Peter 20-21.

With your one statement of "God shall never allow His Son to be crucified afresh". You mean like Hebrews 9:24-26. Yes I understand that. This does not give us free will to go about sinning in this world. Like stated in Hebrews 10:26-29 which I left for you in the previous post. Which would just be putting His blood to shame as stated. Sounding to be of the unforgivable sin which only the Lord shall judge. Of coarse we can make mistakes and we will always have forgiveness if we are true to humble ourselves before the Lord. Confess our sins, or mistakes, and strive to repent of them. To live for the Will of God not our own will. James 4:7-8

Seeing no real response to my couple questions which is ok. Back to the original question which is what led me to post to you in the first place. The Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit being different. Which again I say is false. Giving you detailed information of the original Greek texts which predates the English translation of the Scriptures.

As you have veered to reply to this information several times I do not expect a reply from you.

Thank you for all your time.

God Bless.

Hebrews 6:1-6. John 17:1-31. 1 John 2:1-2. 1 John 5:18. 2 John 9 3 John 11

God shall never allow His Son to be crucified afresh...

Matt 12:30...

Dear Tom,

One other aspect I have been led to reply to is about how you stated "once anointed one cannot sin". As I can only perceive what you mean is to have received the Holy Ghost after giving our life to the Lord? Unless this is from a higher level in which God knows exactly who are His from before we took our first breath in this earth. How He knows the end before the beginning which is truth.

Now I know some believe in "once saved always saved". Which is nice to think but there is Scripture to contradict with this thought. Like Hebrews 10:26-31, ( 2 Peter 10:20-22. Jesus stating in Matthew 7:21-23. Also in Matthew 24:10-12 that there shall be a falling away and it is "he that shall endure until the end, the same shall be saved".

As we are all just vessels it is Gods choice alone who is to be saved. As in Romans 9:19-24, ( 2 Timothy 2:19-21. Even when God spake to Moses in Exodus 33:19. It is all His will which is Holy and pure.

Though as stated in the couple verses I have posted it seems that people can lose their salvation. As I would believe there are people who have fallen away and maybe hate God and Jesus Christ now. Also knowing of a couple that have fallen away but come back to the Lord. Which I believe shall be forgiven. As it is His will and all things are possible with God.

Thank you much for your reply Tom,

I very much enjoyed reading your reply and I agree with most of what you stated. One thing you stated is very special to me. Shown to me very early, by our Father, in my journey with the Lord.

To try and not make this too long. About ( 1 Corinthians 15 24-28. Stating how the last enemy to be destroyed is death, this being the end. The end of just my life or all physical life? I cannot see how God is not all in all now. How He is the source of all life. The Creator of all. Knowing everything about everything, knowing the end before the beginning, and always being in control in Heaven and earth. Like you stated it is His Will that shall be done not ours. Job 34:14-15. Death being a part of this physical life when our spirit shall return to God. Ecclesiastes 12:7. All we see is vanity but what is not seen is eternal as ( 2 Corinthians 4:18.

How do you perceive when Jesus states of the sin that shall not be forgiven in Matthew 12:32 "neither in this world, neither in the world to come"? Do you perceive this as another physical earth or world after us? Or as like unto the angels who sinned and were cast down(from Heaven) to Tartarus ( 2 Peter 2:4? Meaning neither in earth or in Heaven.

I thank you very much for your reply and cherish very much someone to converse about spiritual things like this.

I still do not understand what you mean about the Holy Spirit and Holy Ghost to be different. Can you please give a reply about how in the Textus Receptus, the Greek texts, which our Holy Bible(NT) is translated from. "Ghost" and "spirit" is the same Greek word "pneuma". Strongs number G4151. Translated over 250 times as "spirit" and over 90 times "ghost" in English. There is no difference in Holy Spirit or Holy Ghost. That I can see anyway.

Thank you again for your time sir. God Bless you.

Man shall not liue by bread alone, but by euery word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Every word means just what it says. God's mystery is written in parables. These two letter words are just as meaningful as any other words. Thy kingdome come. Thy will be done, in earth, as it is in heauen.(in earth) one must be careful here to understand the spiritual meaning, not the physical meaning. It is actually saying; Thy will be done in the physical(earth) as it is in the spiritual(heaven). blasphemie against the holy Ghost, shall not bee forgiuen vnto men. The Holy Ghost is the spiritual baptism given to a few by the Father through Jesus the Christ. He mediates this anointment. Once anointed one cannot sin ( 1John 3:8-9) making blaspheme of the Holy Ghost impossible which eliminates the unforgivable sin spoken of. I could never go against the teaching of my brother Jesus Christ. Read throughly 1Cor 15:24-28, it answers if and when God shall be all in all, that time is yet to come. And when all things shall bee subdued vnto him, then shal the Sonne also himselfe bee subiect vnto him that put all things vnder him, that God may be all in all. If defilement could occur then God the Father would be judged as mistaken, heaven forbid. God makes no mistakes. The word 'if' puts a condition on the statement that follows it. God's decision making is never wrong so a judgement of God would never occur. Many statements in God's word are proceeded by 'if', be careful to under stand their true spiritual meaning, they are there for a reason just as 'in' and 'on' have their purpose. When one understands these words put there by God the Father one's walk becomes wholesome and one's faith grows into knowledge, knowledge no man can takeaway. May God's grace be with you.

Tom,

I am in no way frustrated. Your question of "in" or "on" has nothing to do with what started our conversation. Please don't think I called you a fool sir. The question was foolish to me. When Jesus spake(or Isaiah himself) Luke 4:18 "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me" does that mean He was not filled with the Spirit of God? Or was it just "upon" Him? Not seeing any reason to give thought to that detail. Just to show "on" or "in" is in Scripture and doesn't seem to make much of a difference. And that being about the Spirit of the Lord being "in" or "on".

So back to thinking "spirit" and "ghost" are different for some reason. Even stating in the original Greek texts there is no "spirit" or "ghost". It is the same word. What do you reply to that? Also no reply about Luke 11:13 etc?

Maybe another thing. You state there is no unforgivable sin. Which Jesus spake in Matthew 31-32 that there is. Are you against the teachings of Jesus Christ?

You also state there will be no more Jesus Christ one day? Is not God all in all now? Is he not the source of all life and the Creator of everything? His knowledge, wisdom, is surpassing anything anyone can even comprehend. He knows everything because He is in everything.

Then you stated "God the Father would be judged as mistaken" for whatever reason. God cannot be judged by anyone or anything. He is the Almighty and He does whatever He pleases. As you wrote "God makes no mistakes" which is correct. Then why would have Jesus spake of an unforgivable sin. But you say there isn't? It seems you have come to your own conclusion on this and surpassed the Word of God?

Jesus Christ is our Savior and Salvation sent by our Father. He is the only way to the Father and I don't think He's ever going anywhere.

Seeing as you are and elder saying "you have studied the Bible for 60 years" I shall patiently wait for your reply to the couple questions I stated. If you would like. With respect.

God Bless.

Our discussion seemingly has led you to a point of frustration. That was never my reason. If you are upset or perturbed I am sorry ( Romans 7:9-10). As far as where have I (heard) what I have shared with you; thats an easy answer. In your terminology, I (heard) it from 60 years of intense study but more importantly I (heard) it from my Father God Jehovah. As far as my question you judged as foolish? Maybe to that question you should consider again with or without our interaction. The answer may just be a furthering of your walk to glory ( Hebrews 6:1). After all is said and done God shall be 'All in All' ( 1Cor 15:28), no more Jesus, no more Christ; that is where the question I ask came from, foolishness may God forbid. I have so much more to share but I'm not sure you could hear ( Matthew 11:5). These are not physically blind, lame or deaf but spiritually just as in John 6:53 -61. May you enjoy your walk as I have fully enjoyed mine; Christ, Jesus, Holy Ghost, Holy Spirit, Comforter, Satan, yes they are all of God, not on God but in God.

Tom

Tom,

So no answer to my question of "where have you heard this"? Again, the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter, and the Holy Ghost are all spoken of as one in John 14. Also as I have stated that the word "ghost" and "spirit" are the same Greek word in the Greek texts. Just translated to two English words that mean the same thing. Is not the word Holy more important than "ghost" or "spirit"? If it is Holy it is from God.

So in places like Luke 11:13 is Jesus speaking of another "spirit or ghost" than in John or anywhere else? How's John 7:39? There are many other verses also that speak of "the Spirit of God" and the "Spirit of Christ" being in you after you are saved. Romans 8:9, ( 1 Corinthians 3:16, Ephesians 4:30.

Do you know of ( 1 John 5:7? Where it states the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost are one?

Seeing as you have not given an answer to my one question I shall not entertain your foolish question. Which has nothing to do with our discussion.

Thank you for your time. I hope what I have posted shall open your eyes.

God Bless.

This hymn verse speaks to me: When He shall come with trumpet sound, O , may I then in him be found; Clad in His righteousness alone, Faultless to stand before the throne.

On Christ, the solid Rock, I stand; All other ground is sinking sand, All other ground is sinking sand.

"The Solid Rock" verse 4

Edward Mote 1797-1874

The Lord is my defense, and my God is the rock of my refuge- Psalms 94:22

I see where you have stated 'the Holy Ghost and the Comforter are one' from chapter14. But nowhere does 14 state Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit are one. The Holy Spirit is the holiest of all spirits, it is the spirit of the Father Jehovah, while the Comforter is the 'comfort' (knowledge of the truth)

given to the members of God's true church, the church of God. The Holy Ghost is the anointing given to those of the true church, the spiritual baptism.

My question to you is, do you believe 'in' Christ or 'on' Christ?

Tom

Where have you heard this? The word "spirit" and "ghost" are the same Greek word "pneuma" throughout the NT. As in John 14 the Holy Ghost is referred to as the "Spirit of truth" and the "Comforter". The Holy Ghost and the Holy Spirit are one and the same. Just using a different English word "ghost or spirit".

God Bless.

If one mistakes the Holy Spirit and the Holy Ghost as one and the same, confusion will occur. Blaspheme of the Holy Ghost Is an impossibility. So there are no unforgivable sins. The Holy Ghost is an anointing given by God through His Son, Jesus Christ to those worthy. If defilement could occur then God the Father would be judged as mistaken, heaven forbid. God makes no mistakes.

Willie, The Law as referenced by Jesus ...is God's Law. It is the 10 commandments. Jesus did not come to change this law.

I think it's healthy to express your emotion to God when praying. It's a sign you're being real. Use that opportunity to lay your burdens at his feet and to put your trust in God. If this occurs over an extended period of time and you don't feel any relief or healing you might evaluate whether you're truly giving it to God or if you're truly believing that you're forgiven, or whether you truly forgive others, or if you've truly forgiven yourself. May God bless you.

Why do i cry when praying

In replying Kaden Huggins (Mathew 12:31) All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven but blasphemy against the holy spirit shall not be forgiven.

Yes, If you want to repent and ask Lord for forgiveness, He is faithful to forgive you(even it may be bestiality or homosexuality). But blasphemy against holy spirit is not be forgiven.

Revelation 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.

So submit your life unto God and ask for Holy Spirit(which will guide you in the path of rightiousness.