Acts Chapter 2 Discussion Page 25

Hello Steve, you are absolutely correct. There is just one Jesus Christ. In Him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. His name is the name in which we are to be saved. ACTS 4 12 Neither is there salvation in any other for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. There is no three gods or beings there is just one. That one is Jesus Christ. He is the Alpha and Omega. He is the I AM.

jesus christ is the name of the father son and holy spirit.

Hello to the writer of Baptism 's, Baptism alone does not save you. I believe I have stated that from the beginning. However, the correct baptism is very important to the salvation plan. According to the Word of God you are not complete without the correct baptism. You also need to repent and be filled with the Holy Ghost and speak in other tongues as the spirit of God give you utterance. You cannot get around Acts 2 38, even though people keep trying. This is the key in order to get into Heaven. If the baptism were not important then those 12 men in Acts 19 1 thru 7 would not have had to be rebaptized. If it was not important than the very first Gentiles would not have had to be baptized. But Peter declared that after Cornelius and his house had received the Holy Ghost just like them that Cornelius and his house were to be baptized, Acts Chapter 10. You have to have the correct Baptism there is no compromise with God 's salvation plan no matter who you are from the greatest to the smallest of us. God does not change to fit us we have to change to fit him.

Water baptism will not save you though u are baptised in the name of Jesus. It is belief and repentance. let us not promote salvation by baptism a false meanse of getting into heaven.First comes being born again second baptism. it is an outward expression of the inward change. It is public declaration of what alreadytook place spiritually in a person 's. life

Hello Anonymous, Verse 4 is talking about the first true Christians of the Church age. There was the apostles, Mary the mother of Jesus and the number was about 120 in that upper room waiting on the promise, Acts 1 13, 14, 15. Now after Peter gave them the answer on what it took to be saved Acts 2 38 you then read Acts 2 39 "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call ". Acts 2 38 is for everyone. After these 120 were filled in the upper room in verse 4 In verse 41 more was added to the church that day, Verse 41 "Then they that gladly received his word were baptized and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls ". If you continue to read Acts, which is the beginning of the church age you will find many examples of people being filled with the Holy Ghost and being baptized in Jesus Christ name.

Was this pertaining to the decipals only or to all the people

Then you picked out Corinthians 14 38, however if you read Verses 37 and 39 you will get the whole picture. If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues . In these passages of scriptures Paul was talking about the gifts of the spirit. This included the speaking in tongues as the spirit of God give utterance. He wanted to let everyone know that if they do not acknowledge what he has written then let him be ignorant, but he did not say to forbid anyone from speaking in tongues. Now as far as I know, I have steadfastly stood on the Word of God and have acknowledged both the baptism and the speaking with other tongues as the spirit of God give them utterance. Therefore, if you were directing this scripture to me then you are misdirecting because I acknowledge the Apostles doctrine without a shadow of a doubt. I believe in what Paul wrote.

Hello James Let s talk about Titus 3. If you read up a little further you will find that Verse 9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law for they are unprofitable and vain . There is nothing foolish about our conversation. We have not talked about anyone s genealogies in reference to other people , we are not having any contentions that I know of, I am strictly adhering to the Word of God, and we are definitely not discussing law of the Old Testament. So therefore Verse 11 does not apply here I would think.

Murali.R This is the third part. You are not going to like the answer. I do not want to offend anyone, but sometimes the truth is a hard pill to swallow. Now moving onto the scripture in 1 John 4 1 3, It is simply saying that if anyone comes and states that Jesus Christ was not both Lord and Christ, God manifested in the flesh he is of the spirit of the antichrist, which means the spirit of the devil. If you do not have Acts 2 38 then according to the word a person is not saved. It does not matter if this person is holding a position anywhere in the world. If a person have not repented, and been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of their sins, and they have not received the gift of the Holy Ghost with the evidence in speaking in other tongues as the spirit of God give utterance, a person or any person is not saved. Therefore,that person is leading people away from their inheritance. Because they are not telling people how to truly get saved.

Part 2 Verse 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not . The answer is Jesus Christ. The Jews did not really accept him as the Messiah or as their God. Finally, Verse 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth . Now remember in Verse 1 it states that the Word was GOD. So then Jesus who was made flesh and dwelt among us was God manifested in the flesh.

Hello Murali. R If you are asking me to explain 1 John 4 1 3, I will explain in three parts. First you have to understand who Jesus Christ is. He is God manifested in the flesh. He was the Word in the beginning. When you read in St. John Chapter 1 you will find this answer. Verse 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God . The Word is Jesus Christ. He was in the beginning, he was with God in the mind of God to create a fleshly body , and he was God himself. Verse 3 All things were made by him and without him was not anything made that was made . It states, when you read over in Genesis 1 1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth . It states in Verse 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not . My question to you is, Who was in the world? The answer is Jesus Christ.

This is the fourth part This is also two fold message because the Jews considered the Gentiles heathens and unclean then when God filled them with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the spirit gave them utterance, Peter would not have offered them the water. God had to break that prejudice cycle that Peter had in him in order to save the Gentiles. After you receive the Holy Ghost you are still a work in progress. You have to be molded into what God wants you to become.

This is the third part Continuing with the response, in Acts 10 14 15. If you start with VERSE 1 of chapter 10 you will get the whole story. Peter was rebuked or corrected because he was a Jew that had never eaten anything unclean or common. Here God was preparing him to go into Cornelius house, a Gentile which Jews considered them unclean or heathens. They ate unclean and common food according to Jewish customs . If God had not told Peter in VERSE 15 And the voice spake him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common . He would not have gone to Cornelius house.

This is the second part Then Jesus rebuked him saying, VERSE 23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan thou art an offence unto me for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men . Here when Peter was acting on emotion. He was not filled with the Holy Ghost to truly understand the purpose of Jesus having to go through this suffering. Peter also denied Christ three times before the Cock twice St. Mark 14 72. All of this took place before Peter was endured with power from on high. After he received the power, which is the Holy Ghost, he was able to stand. Also if you would read St. Matthew 16 verses 17 to 19, you will see that God blessed this same man that he later rebuked. In VERSE 23 this is like a father that is correcting his child.

Hello James, Just as I thought my first and second response was to long therefore it did not get printed. So I am going to break it up into four parts. This is the first part When you read the passages of scriptures from verse 21 to 23 then you get the clear understanding of why Jesus rebuked Peter. In verse number 21 Jesus was predicting his sufferings and his coming glory. VERSE 21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day . Her Jesus was talking about his crucifixion, his death and that he would raise his body up on the third day. VERSE 22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him saying, Be it far from thee, Lord this shall not be unto thee . Here Peter having walked with him, seen what he had done, knowing the good in him, did not want to accept this fate that Jesus spoke about. Peter did not want to believe that this was to happen to Jesus. He forgot himself and took Jesus laid hands on him .

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James, I forgot to type out I John 4 1 3 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus is come in the flesh is of God And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God and this is that spirit of antichrist, where of ye have heard that it should come and even now already is it in the world ". In St. John 1 14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth ". The Word is God manifested in the flesh.

James, I tried to give you my e mail address in my last post after I responded to your last post. I hope that they get posted because a couple of them were kind of long. However, it would not let me send my e mail it stated something about "spam " mail. If you are successful in sending me yours I will respond. Have a blessed day.

James, One more thing to further validate that baptism is essential to salvation St. Luke 16 15 "And he said unto them. Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. He that believeth and is baptized shall be SAVED but he that believeth not shall be damned ". You have to have all three parts of Acts 2 38 in order to be saved. Jesus is God manifested in the flesh. I John 4 1 to 3. I am not ashamed of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I will not waver on the foundation of salvation for anyone. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I am in the truth and teach the truth. There is one Lord, one faith, and one baptism.

Continuing with the response. In Galatians 2 11 12 It wasn t that Peter was wavering in the Gospel, Peter was trying to keep up appearances before his peers. He did not want these certain Jews to see him eating with the Gentiles. This happened 14 years after Paul had received the Holy Ghost. Paul received the Holy Ghost after Peter did. Peter had it together on the day of Pentecost. In Acts 15 9 Peter teaching them that were with him that no difference should be made between Jews and Gentiles. If I can say it like this, he was telling them not to show prejudice. If you read up a little further you will find that Peter was saying to them that the Gentiles received the Holy Ghost just like them.

power.I thank God for all my blessings,good and bad,and forgive all as i ask forgiveness Amen

Titus 3 11 and 1Cor 14 38. Thanks for answering all my questions. One last thing. Simon Peter was rebuked by the Lord Matt 16 23, Acts 10 14 15, and Paul Galatians 2 11 12. But he had his doctrine straight by Acts 15 verse 9. I know how you believe. My brother believes the same way. If you would like to talk more in a kind fashon. I will check to see if you type back and I will give you my email and we can go over Acts 19. Have a good day.

James, I made typo in my post dated 9 12 14 8 09, I left off the 'n ' in men. It suppose to read 'dwelt among men '.

James, God appeared in many forms and had many names in the Old Testament. However, he had not shown his true face. Exodus 33 20 And he said, Thou canst not see my face for there shall no man see me, and live . This is why God clothe himself in flesh. He dwelled among us, to be the example in which we are to follow. He walked in his fleshly body and was tempted as we are and showed us how to resist temptations. He is our prime example. He prophesied his coming in Genesis. It also states in St. John 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God . VERSE 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth . In Genesis it states that God created the Heaven and the Earth. I hope this helps you. I will humbly say this to you James. Whenever, God has me teaching like this he is truly trying to get someone s attention, whether that is you are someone reading these post. I just hope that you and anyone reading this post that have not been baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sins and have not receive the true Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the spirit give them utterance, I hope that you get to the nearest church and preacher who teaches Acts 2 38 and follow this plan of salvation before it is too late. You do not want to be caught like the 5 foolish virgins with your oil half full.

James, I know that there is what is called a sinners pray going around now that people say that they repent and accept Jesus in the heart and they are saved. However, this is not all they have to have. There are two other things they have to have in order to go to heaven, the baptism and the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the spirit of God give utterance. Since God is Omniscient, He knows all things and he looks at the heart of a person, He knows whether or not that person is going to get the water baptism. This is when the grace of God steps in. God will not let that person die before hearing the truth. However, if he or she does not act upon that which they hear and grace runs out for them then they are lost. You have to have all three. If it was not important for the Baptism then why did God allow the apostle Paul to meet those 12 men in Acts 19 1 7 and have them get rebaptized the correct way. God is truly one deity his name is Jesus Christ and in him dwelleth all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. If you have only confessed with your mouth that you accept Jesus and he has not filled you with the Holy Ghost with the evidence of speaking in other tongues as the spirit gives utterance then you are not saved and you do not have the true Holy Ghost.

Hello James I do not know if this will be printed because it is long, my other one was not, but here goes. I have no problem with knowing who Jesus truly is. He is God manifested in the flesh. When you read St. John 1 1 15 especially verse 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not . Who created the world? Verse number 14. And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth . There is three parts to a person, body, soul, and spirit, but that person is still one being. The God that made man can hold all three offices or titles. His glory was too bright for men to look upon it, therefore he clothe himself in flesh and dwelt among me. The flesh did not want to go through the pain and suffering this is why it cried out to the creator of the flesh. The scripture, Colossians 2 8 9 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fullness of the God head bodily . This does not say that Christ dwelleth in the Godhead as one of three. This states that in Christ all dwell in him. The scripture Ephesians 4 5 One Lord, one faith, and one baptism and when Peter declared what it took to be saved on the day of Pentecost this is the key to get into heaven.

I realize your trouble is with the Godhead Rom 1 20, Acts 17 29, Col 2 9 . Ponder these questions please. Was Jesus praying to Himself in the Garden of Gethsemane? If Jesus was praying to the divine side of Himself, then isn 't He still praying to Himself? Why was Jesus not saying, "Not My will, but MY will be done? " if there is only one person and one will involved when He was praying in Luke 22 42 Matt. 26 39. If baptism is essential for salvation, then what happens to someone who repents of sin, accepts Jesus as Savior, walks across the street to get baptized but is killed by a car? Does he go to heaven or hell? A.If he goes to heaven, then baptism isn 't a requirement is it? B.If he goes to hell, then faith in Christ isn 't sufficient to save him is it? 7.Since the Bible teaches us that Jesus is in bodily form now Col. 2 9 , then how does the Oneness Pentecostal person maintain that God is in the form of the Holy Spirit? Also, when Jesus returns, will He return in His body? Will God 's form then revert to the form of the Son at a later date? If God is only one person, why did Jesus say in John 14 23, "If a man love me, he will keep my words and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. " If God is only one person, why does Jesus say, "we "? Oneness theology teaches that God was in the mode of the Father in the Old Testament. God was seen in the OT not as a vision or a dream or an angel in the following verses Exo. 6 2 3 Gen. 19 24 Num. 12 6 8 . But, Jesus said no one has seen the Father John 6 46 . If they were seeing God Almighty Exo. 6 2 3 but it wasn 't the Father, then who was it? Hope this helps.

Hello James I also sent this response and I am going to add to my previous response. In Acts 4 12 "Neither is there salvation in any other for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved ". So when the preacher calls Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, he has not called the name that belongs to each of those titles. Therefore, when the preacher submerges you in water and says Father, Son, and Holy Ghost this is not correct according to the true Word of God, because he failed to call the name. That Preacher has to call on the Name of the Lord Jesus Christ for the remission of sin.

Hello James See in Colossians 3 17 when it speaks about "deed " a deed is a thing done or an act. This is what baptism is, it is a deed done for the remission of sin. So the scripture states that "And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him ".

Hello James I had sent this response also, but I do not see it printed yet. So I am going to restate it. Evangelist is a title that is honored along with other titles in the Bible, if I can say it like this. Phillip, who was one of the apostles, was called Evangelist in Acts 21 8 Then in Ephesians 4 11 evangelist is one of the spiritual gifts "And he gave some, apostles and some, prophets and some, evangelists and some pastors and teachers " Verse 12 says "For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ ". In 2 Timothy 4 5 It states that to do the work of an evangelist, "But watch thou in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, make full proof of thy ministry ". I know that in these times people want to play down the titles of ministry for the setting up of the church, however, they are very real and talked about having.