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Good Afternoon, Roberta. This is a good question and I looked up information from the site "Bible Tools concerning the mercy seat.

The mercy seat was the top (lid) of the ark of the covenant. In Exodus 25 you can read how YHWH instructed the ark and mercy seat to be constructed.

In the Exodus text, God told Moses that the mercy seat was to be the place that He would meet with Moses and give instructions for laws and ordinances for the people as they traveled in the wilderness on their way to the Promised Land. Since they were to depart from Sinai, Moses would not be going to the top of the mountain anymore to meet with YHWH.

When they arrived in the Promised Land the Ark remained among the people. Joshua oversaw the ark and its use since Moses had died on Mt. Nebo before the Israelites crossed the Jordan and entered the Promised Land.

In Exodus, the LORD instructed Moses concerning the use of the tabernacle, ark, and mercy seat. The high priest would offer a bull and a goat as a sacrifice on the annual day of atonement. He would take the blood from these two animals and pour it over the mercy seat and the front of the arc. This annual action was the means for the atonement of the sins committed during the prior year. The priest would bring a smoking censor into the Holy of Holies where the arc was so that the mercy seat was obscured from his view. This is because the Presence of YHWH took residence upon the mercy seat and the priest would surely die if He was to see the mercy seat and God's Presence above the cherubs on the mercy seat.

So, the mercy seat represented the Presence of God among His people. Jesus is the true mercy seat, God with us.

The mercy seat was the place of meeting with God. Jesus is our mediator between the Father and us.

The mercy seat was the place where the high priest performs His duties of the atoning sacrifice. Jesus is the perfect high priest who does the work of bringing the blood to the mercy seat (the cross).

......cont.

YHWH

Hi Gigi.

Sorry for such a late response.

Part 1.

We've also dealt with this in the past and it wasn't rather it was taught or not it was rather water baptism saves or not.

I want to go over this because saying a dispensational teaching is for lack of better terms because there is a term what is called hyper dispensationalist. Some hold the view that water baptism is not for this age, I don't hold that view,

because it belongs to the new covenant, perhaps I should have said a transitional period.

I will come to that later.

There are dispensation concerning Israel in the Bible and these dispensation is not labeled, (This is a dispensation ).

There are some may be able to articulate this much better than I can.

However let's not loose sight of what I'm drawn into here.

The context of what we are talking about is whether water baptism is a essential for salvation.

This may take several parts.

Let's start with an often used verse when debating baptism.

Acts 2"37-38. Now let's turn back to Acts 1:4-8 to view the audience being spoken to and get the context.

"And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.

For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.

When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?

And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth."

At the very beginning the early church was all Jewish.

See Part 2.

I have an issue with an addiction that I want to get rid of I tried and was only successful for sometime before I relapsed I really want to stop and it is so hard as the devil is everywhere and I keep giving iin to the temptation and keep giving excuses to not stop I really need God to help change my life.

Thank you,

I got confused with the temples.

We are a Christian family, grew up with Sunday school and church, did the same for my 5 kids but so much sin is being accepted as the norm it's making me sick.

I have been in time out on Fakebook so many times ,I have 5 IDs on Twitter down to two now.

To hear Biden talk and back a sinful population, about abortion and as bad as that, to deceive the world into taking something that is not & never was a vaccine has kept me up online 24/7 for 6 months straight trying to warn people.

This is God's world, there will NOT be a one world NWO run by the evil WEF!

Did you ever listen to Schwab and his evil sidekick advisor Yuval Noah Harari?

The man who states "we are useless humans?"

"There is no God, this is fake news"

(Harari)!

Come over to GETTR, Truth Social, GAB, RUMBLE.

GETTR is an awesome platform!

All the good docs , scientist and Christians are there & on the others.



I'm trying to get it through one of my daughters head how evil abortion is.

I had to keep sending her pics even told her if she got to that point I will take her baby!



I'm now almost at the end of The Book of Revelation with help from Pastor Gary Hamrick on YouTube he has all 22 chapters also Dr David Jerimiah.

They never taught us this stuff or explained the wording in the Bible for understanding.

Chapter 4 is about the rapture and I'm PRAYING FOR IT TO HAPPEN !!!

When have we ever injected experiments into our pregnant women and children ?

NEVER! Only HITLER did this.

1991 interview with Milton William Cooper told us about this long planned evil !

It ended up costing him his life but he didn't care.

On Telegram people all over the world are dropping dead from those poison jabs, meant to depopulate. I have a medical background and I know exactly what they're doing!

Many young ppl=lost

Satanist Bill Gates is behind a lot of this and now he's buying farmland to feed us!

WEF=EVIL

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We should not keep company alone with some one who isn't our spouse (opposite sex) Hello Gigi , I have a couple of friends who r muslims , once they gave up trying to convert me we have learned to accept each other as friends . I don't know if u r aware but not being alone with opposite sex that isn't a close relation is actually part of muslim , or sharia as it's called , law . That's not for me . As far as we can tell ,Jesus was alone with the Samaritan woman at the well .

QUESTION?

Ephesians 4:4 ONE Body, ONE Spirit ......

Ephesians 4:5 ONE Lord, ONE Faith, ONE Baptism,

Ephesians 4:6 ONE God and Father of ALL .....

What is this ONE?

Is it physical water, or LIVING WATER?

1 Corinthians 1:20 For all the promises of God IN HIM ARE YEA ....

CAN YOU PLEASE GOD?

Matthew 19:21 ......go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor ......

Acts 2:41 ....and were baptised ....this whole chapter is about the outpouring of the Holy ghost ....so it it batpism of physical water of living water?

Acts 2:45 ....and sold their possessions and goods and parted them to all men .....

If it's water baptism, and you are trying to please God why not go and sell all you possessions; also, and part them to men.

Coming to TRUTH is what pleases God.

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that worketh in you both to will and to do his pleasure.

The life in you is Christ, the faith in you is Christ's faith, the works are Christ's works, the baptism in you is the baptism of Christ (the Holy Ghost):

YOU ARE THE BODY OF CHRIST.

John 14:6 .....I AM .... LIFE ......

John 11:25 .....I AM ....... the RESURRECTION .....

Revelation 20:6 Blesses and HOLY is he that hath part in the first RESURRECTION ....

TRUTH! ....will set you free!

You died on the cross; Christ was resurrected and gave YOU HIS LIFE.

Colossians 3:3 For you are dead, and your life is HID IN CHRIST with GOD.

ONE ....ONE .....ONE .....ONE .....ONE

1 Corinthians 15:28 .....that God may be all (ONE) in all (ONE).

God Bless ALL.

What does the Bible say about cremation? Is it unacceptable or does it matter since we will have a glorified body when we die?

The people were water baptized in the book of Acts & not in titles. There's a lot of scriptures in the New Testament on water baptism. Even Cornelius was water baptized & he was not a jew, he already had the infilliing of the Holy Ghost. The thief on the cross was under the old covenant. Bible says the parting of the red sea was a type of water baptism. Same w Noahs Ark. It's all in the bible.

Peter spoke the truth.

Matthew 16: Jesus said to Peter, "I will give unto thee the keys to the kingdom of heaven & whatever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven:& whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven".

Therefore Peter was NOT in error. I do not see where the Lord was angry w Peter about baptizm.

The epistles from Romans -Jude were written to the people that came from the book of Acts. The epistles are NOT written the the World. Obey the new testament salvation message then go forward into the epistles & continue to learn.

(Paul did water baptize some)

What is the mercy seat for

Was the serpent (snake) originally a full height "scales-and-all" dragon before the Lord made His judgement call on him? He was obviously upright prior to the deception of Adam and Eve. Satan is referred to as the dragon in various scriptures, so is that a far leap to make?

I'm looking for the NT scripture that says the earth groans for the coming of the Lord

Receive ye the Holy Ghost. He will lead you to all truth. How can anyone be holy without the Holy Ghost!? We can not live for the Lord Jesus without the helper, the Holy Ghost (Spirit). And we must be led by the Spirit. We must crucify the flesh. Oh how I love his truth. My heart is full of love that belongs to the Lord.

Amen.

Amen to you Hugh. Acts 2 :38 is the death, burial & resurrection of Jesus Christ. It is the new testament salvation message. Peter said: "Repent & be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins & ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost". It was first to the jews but also to the gentiles. "For the promise is into you, & to your children, & to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call". Keep reading the book of Acts. The church was born on the day of Pentecost.

Amen GiGi,

Very well stated, and I totally agree with you.

It seems that many people get confused when interpreting Paul's writings. Paul preached the same gospel as Jesus, and Paul does NOT cancel anything that Jesus already stated in His Gospel, nor in His commands - including water baptism. I have observed that Paul has a way with his words that sometimes creates confusion, regarding interpretation, whereas there is usually NO confusion with the words that Jesus speaks!

Paul can NOT cancel any words that Jesus previously stated - including the command for baptism.

Yes, Peter was highly regarded by Jesus, and was instructed along with all of the apostles to go out in the world to preach "The Gospel" and "baptize believers" for the forgiveness of sins, and to receive the Holy Spirit.

Those that feel they can ignore the words that Jesus spoke, including His commands to us, should really read and contemplate on this scripture by Jesus:

Matthew 24:35

"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away."

GBU

Prayer request for a financial change in life .

Well Alex, Once again I greatly disagree with your interpretation of Scripture and the events of Peter on the rooftop with the vision of unclean foods and with Paul's view of water baptism. Peter went on to go to the home of Cornelius and he did water baptize Cornelieus and the whole household as the Spirit had led him to do. He also laid hands upon the new believers to receive the Holy Spirit. The vision was to show Peter that the Gospel of salvation is for the Gentiles as well as the Jews. Jews considered Gentiles to be unclean, like the foods in the sheet that came down in the vision. God was telling Peter to not despise or refuse to go to the Gentiles with the Gospel, but to welcome them into the fellowship of believers instead. God was calling the Gentiles clean and on the same level as the Jews. Both are in need of salvation and the Gospel should be delivered to all people without being a "respecter of persons", considering some people (Jews) more deserving of salvation than others (Gentiles).

Paul was obedient to the Holy Spirit and was baptized in water by Ananias. He never wrote anywhere that water baptism made the blood of Christ of no avail. You are adding to Scripture when you say Paul said this or believed it. And you are misinterpreting Acts 10 concerning Peter's vision. It was not a rebuke, but a calling to go to the Gentiles, therefore a change of thinking was needed for peter to be know to it was permissible to associate with Gentiles.

Dear Doug,

Please do not worry about me and my spiritual condition. I am "good to go".

When the Bible speaks about all of our works are like "filthy rags" before God the Word is telling us that even at our best, we are far from being righteous, pure, and holy like God. But, thankfully, be Jesus imputed to us so that we are no longer under condemnation for our sins. This means, although we still sin, our sins are forgiven and removed from us. However, the sinful nature still resides in each of us as long as we live in this earthly life. This sinful nature continually is at work to lead us to sin. Although, as believers, we endeavor to avoid consciously and deliberately sinning, we often become aware that we sinned after the fact, such as: speaking a sharp word back to our spouse, being impatient with our children, being boastful, gossiping, and so many other ways we sin unconsciously. Even so, these unconscious sin reveals to us the depth of our sinful nature, which we are to put to death daily and choosing to live by the Spirit instead.

Have a good day, Doug, and do not be so worried about me. I do not judge you, so pleases do not judge me, as we do not have personal knowledge of each other to do so. It is fine if you disagree with what I have said or my viewpoint. But I think it is inappropriate to pass a judgment on the spiritual condition of another believer on this forum when we do not really know each other well.

Thanks Alex , that's so interesting to me , the bit about the sheet with all the unclean animals in it , I hadn't ever applied that to humans , you have given me food for thought , which is exactly what this site should be for smiley face .

Hi Gigi.

I believe you are responding to my response to Texsis.

Here's what's noted.

Qs...I've heard 2 different things about baptism. What is your opinion? I believe that once Christ resurrected for us and we are spiritually baptized once we except Him in all that apply, there is no need to get water baptism. can yet not necessary. Yet I keep getting flack for it.

The root of this debate is requirement and always have been. On this thread the evidence is in the parties participating, Adam and Bro Dan has always made it clear that it's a requirement. You have been part of that debate in the recent past also. I know you say you don't believe it does but you argue along side them so you should know.

Secondly, salvation is death and a new birth "AND" sanctification. Not just Positionally where we're hidden in Christ. but practically where he lives in us. We've recieved the earnest of the spirit. This takes us to Romans 6:4. "Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life."

Baptism means Identified.

We are Identified with the death meaning the penalty and the power of the old nature is to be recognized as crucified. And we are Identified with Christ resurrection in where we walk in newness of life. That's why the chapter opens up like this- Romans 6:1-4.

So I don't hold the view water baptism symbolizes cleansing of the sins because that notion doesn't complete the Identification. "Baptized into his resurrection.

So I believe When the scripture says believe and be baptized it don't necessarily mean water baptism. It means what takes place once you believe. The baptism John spoke of which is not of man but the Holyspirit. Matthew 3:11.

God bless.

You're very welcome! God bless!

Gi Gi you do greatly err....Jesus said John baptised you with water but i will baptise you with the H.G. and fire...What Jesus did at Calvary was a New Covenant in his blood....There was no water involved....It was Peter that was commanding water baptism after the Cross...That New COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD which was also the Great Promise baptism....Water was neva the great Promise baptism...Thats y the lord was so upset with Peter commanding water baptism...When God Almighty had just offfered up his only son for the sins of the world...behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of the world...the blood of that New covenant...Here comes Peter commanding water baptism as if the Blood of that New covenant was insufficient. And unholy

......All the unclean animals in that sheet was the Church, humanity that was made clean by the Blood of the lamb of God not water baptism that Peter was commanding....Thats y God was so upset with Peter rebuking Peter 3 times with that sheet with all the unclean animals...Which is the world that was made clean by the blood of the lamb...Not by water baptism which was fine b/f the Cross...But after the CROSS IT WAS A NEW COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD....This is the New COVENANT in my blood drink ye all of it...For the sins of the world...John gave us water baptism but John said that Jesus had sandles that he was not worthy to unloose...meaning the new covenant in his blood that no man cd look on....God tells Peter 3 times what I have made clean do not call common or unclean by...( commanding water baptism to make these ppl clean )..A Slap in the face of God and the lamb of God is tells folks that need water baptism after he shed his blood for humanity .

......Thats y Paul was so reluctant to preach water baptism...In one place PAUL SAID I THANK GOD THAT I BAPTISED NONE OF YOU....Paul knew that water baptism wd make the blood of this New COVENANT OF NONE EFFECT...Even in the O.T. without the shedding of blood there was not remisison of sins..

What does the bible say about cremation? Thanks.

Hi Gigi.

Thanks for replying. I think we both agree on everyone being water baptized is not saved and we both agree everyone that makes an alter call is not saved, I reaffirm that hoping I script it in that way.

However we will have to agree to disagree on this statement of yours.

"And there is Scriptural precedence for the laying on of hands on newly water baptized converts to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I support all three of these being delivered to those God brings to us to witness to and to administer these things that were commanded and practiced by the apostles."

I don't believe today there has to be a laying on the hands to receive the Holyspirit. But not interested in a debate.

Thanks and God bless.

According to Christ; "His sheep hear His voice." ( John 10:27). 2 Tim. 2:24-26 indicate that repentance indeed is a gift from God.

The basic premise is that we are all "children of wrath" by nature under condemnation apart from Christ. ( Eph. 2:3). If we cannot understand that man's heart is estranged from God; and that at best we try to avoid the consequences of sin rather than have any true remorse for offending a Holy; righteous and just God then we simply are living out a works based theology. Titus 1:15 shows further how our best actions are contaminated and defiled.

Human love only shows true affection for those who love us ( Matthew 5:46-48). To love those who "despitefully use us" ( Matthew 5:44) takes a change of heart; a Divine intervention and infusion of the Holy Spirit again which is given by God ( Ezekiel 36:26).

From OUR perspective we see ourselves drawn to the one from all eternity who created all things. ( Ecclesiastes 3:11). This verse shows again how even THIS is instigated in man's conscience by God. We need to realize that there is a process involved; as the parable of the seed and the sowers indicates. The seed from God (again planted on His initiative) is introduced; and ultimately must progress until "fruit is produced" (see also Matthew 3:8). TRUE repentance will overcome temptations that the Lord uses to prune us; as He "chastises all those He loves" ( Heb. 12:6; etc). God therefore initiates salvation; and the whole sanctification process ultimately leading to glorification ( Romans 8:17).

When we are saved; we have new desires to serve God and rejoice in the thought of service to Him now and in eternity. We begin a process of mortification of the deeds of the flesh ( Romans 8:13). From our perspective; we need to accept the truth about ourselves and our utter hopelessness apart from Christ in our own strength. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom ) Proverbs 9; Psalm 111; etc). Jeremiah 32:40 shows God gives that

Hello there is a link at the bottom to become a Christian with verses you may find helpful.

Paul and Silas's jailer asked them in ACTS 16:30 ..."Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Their answer was as simple as this in ACTS 16:31 ..."Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Simple as that.



That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13

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Dear GiGi, I am still concerned when you use a phrase like "depth of my sinfulness" that there are things you are not dealing with in your life that makes you feel guilty. I just don't see those phrases by the writers of the Bible when you take the context. 2 Tim. 3:16,17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

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Hello ! So nice to read a comment from you Carleton , hope you and all yours are healthy happy and strong in faith , much love in Christ .