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Dear Steve

Nobody is certain about the actual interpretation of this Book. So they avoid mentioning details about the future events. Maybe some general things but not a detailed account of the future happenings.

Humbly I request, what happened to the separation of Church and State?

Does God decide who is save or does man make that decision? I think a little humility goes a long way.

Humm, I'm wondering; If Adam was God's first human creation and Eve was the second human created why would Adam follow a subordinate? Maybe somebody changed the story? You know humans the are subject to lie. No disrespect intended.

why was jealousy found in him?

I don't see the moderation view. Can it be found under features or settings?

Does this app allow the Bible to be read to me aloud?

Amen. Father I join in asking this for them, us and all in need. Thank you and praise you. In your holy name I pray Lord Jesus. Amen.

Thank you Lord Jesus.

Amen. Father I join in asking this for them, us and all in need. Thank you and praise you. In your holy name I pray Lord Jesus. Amen.

"if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved." Romans 10:9

".....everyone who calls upon the name of the Lord shall be saved." Acts 2:21

Father please have mercy on them, us and all in need. Thank you and praise you. In your holy name I pray Lord Jesus. Amen.

Lord Jesus please fight our battles and set us free from all darkness. Please Father save those in our lives that are not yet saved (incl. A.). Please heal, deliver and guide. I ask for strong protection for all of us. Glorify your great name Lord and please multiply my prayer to also benefit all others who need the same. Thank you Lord Jesus. I pray in your holy name. Amen.

Drew,

Indeed, wickedness has been at work in the world since the Deceptive One beguiled Eve and drew Adam into disobedience to God's command.

Dear Richard,

You have given a reasoned reply to Sheila. some of it I agree with and some of it I do not. You can read my reply to T. Levi below if you wish to know my thinking. As a believer, I know my citizenship is in heaven, but also, as a U.S. citizen, I believe that I am to exercise all of the rights afforded t me in our nation's Constitutions for my welfare and that of my family and neighbors.

I do know that the Word says that we are to live quiet and godly lives among the wicked. But I don't think that that means to be pacificist nor just let evil prevail. I think we are to rise up when necessary and endeavor to resist, speak out, vote, and fight for what we know is best for our nation, as what is best benefits ourselves, our families, our neighbors, our communities, our nation, and the world.

Thank you .

Thank you T. Levi, and Happy Independence Day to you. Indeed God has richly blessed the U.S.A. over and over again. Citizens of this blessed nation have more individual rights than any other government in history. We have more freedom in this country than in any other country in history. We should be thankful for God's guidance and providence in the forming and continuance of our nation.

We also should exercise our rights afforded by the Constitution to protect ourselves and other citizens from governmental abuse and lawlessness. Because of this remarkable we should not shrink back from our duty to vote, engage in public and political affairs, and speak out for what we believe is best for our country.

There are those who decry patriotism as being incompatible with the Christian walk. But I disagree. Even Paul appealed to his Roman citizenship when being incarcerated and interrogated. I believe our country is worth preserving and improving. It has been used of God to bless the world in so many ways-even extraordinarily. I do not think we should just be pacificist and just let things happen. We, believers are a "stop gap" to the works of evil in our country and the world. We believers have the freedom to evangelize and speak freely about our Savior, unlike so many other countries. I for one, do not want our country to become Communistic or under Muslim control, since these forms of government persecute and execute those who want to share the gospel. I do not want to see the advent of the One World Government come in my life time. I will use my rights as a citizen to resist this for as long as I am able to do so.

We should not be so defeatist and fatalistic in thinking that it is inevitable and so there is nothing we can do to stop it. We are a restraining power because of the Holy Spirit dwelling within us. We should not quench the Spirit even in such things as exercising our rights and working to preserve the truly good aspects of our nation.

Good question. Look at the details for verse 1: Link

If you hover over "LORD" it's Jehovah, but for "Lord", it's Adoni...

Addendum...The church should be aware of how it will be judged first; in this regard. Much of today's poor decision making (i.e. leniency on criminals; women's rights issues) has been growing due to it's inception in churches today. The root issue of many vices is lack of fathers at home; which in many ways developed with lax views of the marriage covenant allowing for widespread divorce; single parent homes and remarriages. Without the discipline and order as God designed it; things have gradually unraveled in society. These mindsets have largely developed because of worldly doctrines infiltrating what used to be mainline trusted denominations that preached God's Word. Much also; it seems has come from an unbalanced promotion of God's love at the expense of balancing His wrath and disregarding a literal hell; as well as not discussing His judgment on the nations which is just ahead. We don't preach about the Tribulation very much these days; and we have to evaluate our own attitudes as to our comfort level in this world. We need to be careful not to "Americanize" our view of the Gospel; as well as accepting that we are inexorably headed toward One World Government; and much as was in the case of Babylon; we are not to expend needless energies to stop it. We also must demonstrate a good work ethic; as our society has largely gotten used to over reliance on government handouts and lost much wisdom on survival skills.

We must avoid overreacting as we yet are not being executed for our faith in this land. God has given grace to those who for a time were pressured into getting the "V". Again; we should only focus on what is clearly against scripture. In other matters we must demonstrate PATIENCE so we can endure to the end and not lose our reward. Trusting God to meet our earthly needs is key to joy in such a hedonistic culture; and goes against the "Christian music industry" and other megachurch behaviors that characterize the Laodicean era.

Thank you very much.

Dear Sheila: A good point is brought up about documents that allow for an overturning of governments if necessary. This gives us some authority at least indirectly permitted by God's Word since it is inherent in the laws of the land as to how the "founding fathers" intended it. First of all; we need to carefully assess not just what politicians are saying but avoid either worshipping those who appear to support Christian values (as many in both parties have vacillated wildly over time in both parties); as well as carefully choosing which battles to fight. What was perceived as the "law of the land" with Roe vs. Wade was in reality a Supreme Court opinion; which was considered by everyone to have the authority to be enforced. Those who have been praying and supporting life surely are to be commended; as this overturning occurred during an obviously hostile administration. In that regard; it has been brought up that "life; liberty and the pursuit of happiness" certainly seems to be more pro-life than not when the Constitution was drafted.

Other issues; however such as gun control need to be carefully assessed. We have a right to bear arms; but we scripturally are not to trust pridefully in anything we own (which also would apply to our financial blessings as a nation as Solomon was warned about multiplying horses; gold and silver for himself). We still should trust in God to be our front and rear guard is such promises as Psalm 91. We need to avoid much misinformation in mainstream media; and in general often need to insist on laws already in effect to be properly enforced (such as those written for criminal prosecution). If we truly love Christ then we are enemies to the world. We shouldn't; however let patriotism; maintaining international superiority; or any man centered mindset to super cede scripture. It should be clear that we are willing to be persecuted because we are fearlessly proclaiming Christ. Also we must pray for our enemies.

I don't understand, why my lord to my lord? Who is speaking to who?

The best book in scripture on the subject is Philemon; probably also the most ignored one. It narrates the situation of an escaped slave; who Paul sent back to his master; but also urged the master to show grace toward him as it appeared he and the slave were both believers. There seems to be little to go on as to the reasons the slave escaped in the first place. Nonetheless; it illustrates what other verses do on the subject of submission to masters; as well as masters not being too overbearing.

The other comments here mention the working out of debts. It should be noted that it indeed IS a very common occurrence today. I am aware of ministries in Pakistan that recently helped brick kiln slaves to have debts paid off to be released; and am aware that the same thing has gone on in India. This circumvents a nation's rule against slavery quite often; by keeping people in perpetual bondage by never giving them enough to pay off their debt. In ancient times; there were basically two standards; those who had Hebrew slaves (who were as others here mentioned set free in the seventh year); and those taken by war who would be in a permanent state of servitude. Nonetheless; there were certain rules as to wives and how people were to be treated; as well as the rule that one cold have an awl put a hole in their ear if they chose to remain permanently with their masters.

There is a fundamental difference as well that seems to contrast Israel's practices and those of our nation's slave trade. Namely; once a land was conquered in Israel people were taken as slaves. In our past; we had others (often through Muslim profiteers) go into the jungles and savannah of Africa which we had little or no national jurisdiction over and bring them overseas. The exception would be in the West Indies which were colonized much earlier. In short; no rule overturns slavery in the Bible. True saints like Paul suffered in like manner as Christ's bondservant.

the word of god is god

May God bless you and your family , may He keep you all safe and well and close to each other and may He provide for all your daily needs in abundance , may He keep you all very close to Him . Much love in Christ .

Just from memory, I don't think the Israelites were allowed to make slaves of other Israelites , I'm pretty sure they had to pay each other wages , which means they would be payed servants , even if they were only paid low wages or part of their wages went on supplying food and lodgings , living in , they were still servants not slaves , it's seems they could hire themselves out for a period , a bit like an employment contract , I will work for you for six years for this amount of remuneration and after six years the contract was up for the negotiation . This is just what I can remember without looking it up . Hope I haven't confused the issue smiley face .

Please, pray for my salvation. Thank you.

This is great insight and detail about God freeing the children of Israel from Egypt.

Brother Roy

Revelation 1:4 John to the seven churches which are in Asia, Grace be unto you, and peace from him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the SEVEN SPIRITS before his throne.

This is speaking about Christ, and the SEVEN SPIRITS of HIM.

Isaiah 11:1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse (Christ), and a BRANCH (man, you and I) shall grow out of his (Christ's) roots.

Here are the SEVEN SPIRITS of Christ.

Isaiah 11:2 And the (1) SPIRIT of the Lord (the Father) shall rest upon him, the SPIRIT of (2) wisdom and (3) understanding, the SPIRIT of (4) counsel and (5) might, the SPIRIT of (6) knowledge and (7) fear of the Lord (the Father);

The root is the LIFE of the BRANCH; it feeds the BRANCH with these SEVEN SPIRITS.

May God give us eyes to see and ears to hear.

God Bless You.

Continue from previous. I ran out of space.

1 John 2:11

But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

I find it Amazing that out of the 2000 Characters allowed on these posts, If baptism is mentioned once it draws attention.

If you mention the command to love your brother "And that's whether he holds the same views of baptism or not " Love shuts the thread down!

Most will admit you can be baptized and not be saved, as well as every alter call in the local Church means someone got saved. But they passionately hold to the view you must be baptized by water to be saved!

As Texsis said the scripture doesn't say that. Nowhere!

I would love to see this intense debate on

John 13:34-35.

John 15.

And especially 1 John 2:1-11. Where it speaks of what's contuary to loving your brother which is hating your brother! and sadly over a view!

I'm not here to judge but it seems the fruit that confirms a live branch seems to be lacking from some!

Is this because the foundation you're they're standing on is built by your own works?

This Post was never about water baptism, It was about fruit barring, the old nature crucified, and the baptism of the Holyspirit which sanctifies a believer Positionally and practically and puts us in the body of Christ with other believers.

This is why I felt Texsis asked a good question that was fitting to the post. Because only the baptism of the Holyspirit brings new life and the beginning of a better covenant.

God bless.

Hi Bro Spencer,

Thanks for your reply, and always so great to hear from you.

We were discussing the subject of water baptism, but I will defer from that, to answer you - regarding the two greatest commandments.

You certainly won't get any disagreement with me regarding these two (2) greatest commandments that Jesus emphasized while here on earth. Love God, and love our neighbor's as ourselves! Jesus also tells us that "all the law" hang from these TWO!

Matthew 22:40

"On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

So, if the Holy Spirit is truly working in us - to help us to follow the 2 greatest commandments, it only makes sense that we will also be following all of God's 10 commandments since "these laws" are incorporated into the TWO greatest Laws - per Jesus in Matthew 22:40

GB