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Dear Sonia , please , just buy yourself a KJV Bible and read and enjoy it . If you read it with an open heart and mind , every day , you won't need to pay money for commentaries or lessons . Everything you need to know is in the Bible , as long as you are commited to reading it and do so you will learn everything for yourself . Have patience , it's not a race it's a lifelong relationship that will grow and get stronger as long as you keep reading the Bible . May God bless your efforts .

Dear Jesse

Lets go to Revelation 3:3

"Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee."

Reading that, it makes conclude that there is salvation in that church.

Now as far as the churches mentioned in Revelation are concerned, they were real churches at that time. Jesus pointed out their problems for them to repent. If now today many Christians take those things symbolic or that they represant churches during some periods of time, may be right maybe wrong, they are all assumptions. Some christians take it that way, others in another way. But the fact is that those churches existed at that time, so their pastors did. And Jesus addressed their real weaknesses.

Lets go to Philippians 2:12-13. The word that is in English "work out" is the Greek " katergasesthai" which means to work something to give it a shape. What shape? The shape (character) of Jesus Christ. But still it says to work having fear. What for? Also the word " pleasure" in verse 13 is wrong. The right translation is "will'.

The way I understand it is that since "the wage of sin is death" if smb sins and does not repent and stays in that attitude then his in a big trouble. God will do anything He can do to bring repentance to him ( this is when saying work in him) but He can not violate his free will, and if one chooses not to ever repent then the wage of his sin will be definitely death.(spiritual)

Well that's my belief. Nice to hear from you

GBU

Is there a scripture that refers to why people are white ?

You shouldn't have to pay for it lessons a good concordance is like a dictionary for scripture and can get online Strong's concordance is excellent

The Trinity is so simply that a 5 yrs old cd understand it...Abraham Issac and Jacob are the trinity...Father Son and Granson A picture of the Kingdom...Just as Abraham offered up his only Son Issac so God Almighty offered up his only son Jesus...That Ram caught in the thicket by his horns was symbolic of Christ and his crown of thorns...Just as natural Israel was multiplied as the sands of the seas...The heavenly Trinity which is Father son and H.G. is gonna be multiplied as the stars of heaven, thats y the sower of the good seed wants to sow his seed in our hearts that the H.G. the Child of Promise will be born in us sinners...Just as Issac came out of the loins of Abraham. The H.G. which is the Child of promise that comes out of the loins of Christ Jesus...He breathe on them and they were impregnated by his words which are his seeds his breath...The Child is the H.G. the Child of Promise thats y he has to know us...They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin he has a seed to sow in humanity...As the field is the world...She brought forth aman Child that is gona rule all nations...And her Chilld was caught up to God and to his throne...Jesus said unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in...When he said b/c i have spoken these words unto you Sorrows have filled your hearts but when a woman in in travail she has Sorrows b/c her hour is come...But after the Child comes her sorrows are turned into joy....Our Child is the H.G. that Child of Promise that results from our heavenly Birth and his seed the words of the book...Thus Christ is truly the Father of the Child the H.G...Thus the H.G is the GRANSON IN RANK WITH JACOB..That great promise was multiplication of Christ JESUS in humanity...Thats y we refer to the H.g. as the Promise...he is the multiplication of Christ in us via his seed the word.

...My lil Children of whom i travail in birth till Christ is formed in you..Thats y the sower wants to sow his seed in us..

I am praying for a new job. I loathe the job im currently at. I pray God protects my mind, body and spirit at the current hospital im at. I am dealing with jealousy, envy and betrayal. I pray God gives me strength to continue to go to work and be the best nurse I can be until a new position opens up for me. I pray God touches someones heart to call me back for a interview for one of the positions i applied for. God you said you would never me, nor forsake me. God please lift me up and hide me from my enemies. God I pray you continue to provide for my children and I during the season. God please deliver me from this wicked group of people I work with. Stalking me and retaliating against me. God please help me and deliver me. God help me..

I'm so grateful for this bible apps, the reason ,i can just go to Google or the app's and look up any scriptures,and get notes that's helpful in my studying, I'm craving to learn about GOD words and this site is very helpful, i Have a deep hungry to know more about the words of GOD, but i can't afford to pay for the lessons at this time but hopefully by January I'll be able to do so.thanks for sharing the words of GOD,

Giannis,

No apology needed. You did not misunderstand my post. I believe and meant what I said. I've looked at the two verses you've shared. Revelation 3:1, and Philippians 2:12.

Revelation 3:1-6 is the instruction to the church in Sardis. This is the reformation church from 1517 to 1700. This is in response to the practices in the church; infant baptism, you couldn't have house worship fellowships, the worship of Mary, etc. God has nothing good to say about this church.



The evaluation of the church: I know your works, that thou hast a name that you are living, but you are dead. So they had some kind of a name. They said we represent the living God, we serve the living Christ. (That's what they said). But he says spiritually you're dead. No salvation there!

But you cannot stop at Philippians 2:12. You must also include Philippians 2:13, and here's why: In Philippians 2:12 he praises them. He says you don't obey just when I'm there, but also when I'm not there, so here's what I want you to do. Here's the command, the salvation process. And notice the literal translation from the Greek text: Be continually working out your own salvation with fear and trembling.

It is a process. So from my earlier post, someone might say, "Now wait a minute now. I thought that we didn't have to work for our salvation?" We don't, and that's why I say that you can't separate Philippians 2:12 from the very next verse ( Philippians 2:13), which says, "For it is God which works in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

You know the Greek, so I think you will know this: The word "works in you" is the word energizing. For it is God who is continually energizing in you both to will, and to energize of His good pleasure whatever He thinks best. It's His energy. It's whenever He wants to energize my spirit for His Spirit to work in me. It's all according to His good pleasure. It doesn't have anything to do with my good pleasure. I'm just a vessel.

I lost my sister 3 tears ago. She ask me to keep her three furbabies and I did. They captured my heart. I all ready had a dog that I recuses. She was the best dog we ever had. She was use to being the only child and was never happy with other dogs here. I held her and prayed and said that they had lost their momz and we needed to make it work for them to live with us. si she did. She had to make a lot of sacrifices. Fast forward three years t ran over the littlest dog about three months in to their stay . He was my sisters favorite so people said my sister took him to heaven with her. Two years llater the cat died. He was old but had gradually got better living with us. That left our dog,Goob, who we had has over ten years and my sisters little dog Baby. Baby followed me every where I went. I loved those two dogs so much. The both died of cancer a month about. I had cried since my sistereddied but losing my little dogs has devastated me my heart is broken I cry hard every single day and the only thing I can think of is God told me to get back in Church 4 times. We had not gone back since covid out break but did watch TV telecast . I did go several times. Then a black could seem to follow me. Then my babies died , we got back in church but I never felt that cloud leave. Now I have double pneumonia with the flu and now my husband has it. His lungs were already compromised . I total feel this is Gods punishment. I felt the distant from him from the beginning even though I kept my praying up and did Bible Studies. How do I get back under Gods grace. Please pray for me and my family MARLENE

Dear Mishael.

It is sad that the ancient church broke down in tenths of branches with different teachings. But lets do some history to get to know some things better The first church was called by itself as Catholic and Apostolic. Maybe in English these words don't mean anything but in Greek Catholic means Universal and Apostolic because it has a mission (Apostole in Greek means mission). We can agree I think that there is nothing wrong with these words. When politics and ambitions came into that Church it was separated into two branches, the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Orthodox Church. That was done rouhly 1000 years after Christ. By that time the Church had gone miles away from the early church in terms of beliefs, teachings, way of life, etc. The R/Catholics included the term Catholic in their name to show that they represent the universal church but Orthodoxes never accepted that nor Pope as a their spiritual leader. Then from the R/Catholics Luther separated himself and the Protestant branch of Christianity started to form. Protestantism was not unified and eventually broke down in a big number of congregations with similar, but not the same, beliefs. And here we are now. I think it is not so important to quarrel about words. I do understand that reborn christians suffered a lot by the R/Catholics in the West. The same happened in the East, but by Orthodoxes this time. Those churches can not accept that have eventually failed in their mission to preach God's salvation. They stay in their traditions and history but offer nothing to people any more But we can use them as examples for what happens to a church when it doesn't stick to the teachings of Gospel and goes the world's way. I've read a lot about you of what you have posted so far. You have done a great work in your life. Surely there is a big wage for you in Heaven. Don't be sad about people that don't believe. You couldn't do anything more. You've been working your talent well.

God Bless You.

Circular arguments on this topic remind me of an Abbott and Costello "who's on first" skit. In case anyone isn't aware, here are some scriptures describing one God with three components: father, son, and holy spirit. We likely will never 100% comprehend God nor should we expect to, but the fact is the Bible describes God as a triune Godhead, uses plural terms, says the three are "one", and I will trust God's Word over man's word. Christians will keep sharing the truth of the scriptures everytime someone tries to challenge God's word.

Godhead:

Colossians 2:9

Acts 17:29

Romans 1:20

John 1:1

1 John 5:7-8

Genesis 1:26

Genesis 11:6-7

John 10:30

John 8:19

Philippians 2:5-8

2 Corinthians 5:19

John 1:3

Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 1:2

2 Corinthians 13:14

Deuteronomy 6:4

John 14:10

John 20:28

1 John 2:22-24

Matthew 1:23-25

Isaiah 7:14 - Jesus is called Immanuel which means "God with us"

I have an unspoken request. Im not feeling well.

Alex, this will be my last reply on the subject as I can perceive that you seem very rooted in your belief despite not sharing any scripture to support it. 1 Corinthians 3:16 refutes the claim that satan is inside everyone.

Lots of assumptions were made in the last reply and this time it included a strawman argument: "You being a Christian should know this." I hope this assumption is only an honest mistake and not intended to be manipulative. Your words appear to keep conflating sin with satan. Curse of Adam is a curse and isn't the same as satan being inside a person. Sin isn't the same as satan being inside a person. No where in the Bible does it say satan is in everyone. Christians have the holy spirit within, not satan, as 1 Corinthians 3:16 says.

Here's another verse that refutes it: Matthew 7:18. Someone with the holy spirit dwelling doesn't also have satan dwelling.

Satan probably wants people to believe he is in them though. I can see that playing into his hand and he is the father of all lies. Luke 6:45. Isaiah 5:20. God bless.

Can you please explain Mark CH9 v 23

Sanaytrah,

(Part 2):

I remember years ago driving by a church and there was this huge sign in front of the church that only had two words on it. I thought to myself that was silly to have such a huge sign and only put two words on it. And then I got to thinking, no, I am the one that is silly.

The sign said "Jesus Saves!" It got me to thinking. There is nothing I can do to save myself. Jesus saves people. And when He saves me, I am saved, eternally, everlasting! I have everlasting life. How long is everlasting life? It is not temporary. It's forever!

Don't let anyone try and take what you have (Christ) away from you. You have Christ living in you and He has promised to never leave you. As long as He is in you, you have eternal life (salvation). If Christ ever leaves you, then you've lost eternal life, you've lost Christ, because He is eternal life. He will never leave us and we cannot force Him to leave. That's how we know we have eternal life. That's how we know we can never lose salvation. If we lose salvation, then we've lost the eternal one that lives in us. Jesus says that will never happen!

But he was not a man after God's own heart, in other respects, wherein he performed his own will. In the matter of Uriah, for instance, he was as far from being a man after God's own heart as Saul himself was. It is therefore a very gross, as well as dangerous mistake, to suppose this is the character of David in every part of his behavior. We must beware of this, unless we would recommend adultery and murder as things after God's own heart. # 1Sam 16:12|,13.

And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:

It does seem as if the apostle and the disciple who Jesus loved , have gone out of their way to give David the preeminence over Mary. Would this be the condition of the treatment of woman during the time? Or is it possible that their theology could have been wrong? Not being led by the spirit accordingly. Excuse me for being blinded, but I must admit that the male is dominating all through scripture! I will not let the blind lead the blind. David was a jerk for what He did. Even so, He payed the price, this seed is not at all a part of Jesus . To suggest otherwise is as wesley says a mistake! A mistake!

Sanaytrah,

You've touched on something very important. Once we're saved, the battle that takes place is for our minds. Satan knows he has lost us forever to Christ, and he knows that he cannot take Christ away from us. But once we're saved, our next step is to grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So what Satan do? He tries to keep our minds distracted so that we won't have time to study the word of God because without studying the word, there can be no growth. Satan puts doubt in a believers mind about their salvation. He is the one that wants us to believe we can lose Christ. God's Spirit in us would never do that.

Yes, In Hebrews 13, Jesus said I will never leave you nor forsake you, and that's very important to understand. I will NEVER leave you. That has a double negative in the Greek text. Jesus said I will never leave you. That is, I'll never leave if you tell me to, not ever, (double negative). Nor will I EVER forsake you, (triple negative in the Greek text). In Greek, this denotes the strongest impossibility of something ever happening. Jesus will NEVER leave you. It will never happen!

If salvation could be lost, that would mean it is something we did to lose it. However, if it is something we do to lose it, that would also mean that we have the power to break God's will. John 6:37 tells us that we are given to Jesus by the Father. And Jesus says all that the Father gives to Him, He will in (no wise) cast out.

We see God's will in John 6:39-40. Everybody that the Father draws will come, and everybody that comes to the Son, Jesus will lose no one. It is God's will that not one single person who He has given to Christ will ever be lost or cast out. So, if we believe that salvation can be lost, we must also believe that that we are capable of breaking God's will.

I am running out of space, but will send another post as (Part 2).

Adam GBU I don't mean to be contrary...But you don't seem to understand that murder is of the Devil...Satan.. Do you not remember that David was a man after Gods own heart...a GREAT MAN OF GOD...But David premeditated the murder of Uriah. I just used David as an Illustration to show you how Satan is in mans Carnal mind...Proving the Satanic nature we have...And David was a man after Gods own heart...Under the law David was guilty of murder 1...Premeditated Murder...And David was a good guy...And every person has this potential demonic nature...Not 1 person can escape this curse of ADAM...This demonic nature...We are all easily corrupted b/c of this adamic nature...And thats y we must be bornagain of an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED which is the seed of Christ that 2 nd ADAM...True Righteousness in the sight of God is being INCORRUPTIBLE...We must be bornagain of an INCORRUPTIBLE SEED..which is the contents of the book in the Fathers right hand that New Covenant that Jesus wrote with his own blood...It goes all the way back to CAIN & Abel when Cain killed his brother ABEL that horrible Curse of Adam had already kicked in...Thats y I keep telling ya that mans adamic nature is in rank with Satan...But Adam we should not be having this conversation...This is elementary Sunday School stuff....You being a Christian should know this... GBU

why do I keep putting myself in the company of people that don't give a "care" for me?

Fred:

John 7:42 Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the SEED of David ......

Acts 13:22 .....I have found David the son of Jesse, a man after mine on heart, which shall fulfil all my will.

Acts 13:23 Of this man's (David's) SEED hath God according to his promise raised unto Israel a saviour, Jesus:

Romans 1:3 Concerning his son Jesus Christ, which was made of the SEED of David ....

2 Timothy 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the SEED of David....

God Bless You

why did the LORD want people to eat unleavened bread ?

Where is this Esdras found in the King James Bible?

1Tim. 2:1 = I exhort therefore , that, first of all , supplications , prayers , intercessions , and giving of thanks , be made for all men.

Paul wrote this exhortation to Timothy, whom Paul commissioned as a spiritual leader among the saints and church at Ephesus to "charge some that they teach no other doctrine" (1:3). The force behind this exhortation is that every church pastor, teacher, and spiritual leader must adopt this same manner and habit of praying "for all men".

Supplications are the saints' highly emotional pleas to GOD to grant desperately needed requests that are far beyond the requesters' normal human resources. Supplications express an attitude of helplessness while begging GOD for HIS DIVINE intervention to supply urgent needs.

The general term "prayer" includes all addresses to GOD of every type and characteristic such as praise, confession, thanksgiving, rejoicing, interceding, and supplication.

The word "intercessions" describe praying on behalf of others for GOD to supply their needs. By interceding for all men, the praying intercessor acts on their behalf in the same manner The HOLY SPIRIT and CHRIST HIMSELF intercedes for the same before GOD The FATHER (e.g. Rom. 8:26-27; 8:34; Heb. 7:25).

The expression "giving of thanks" translates from the Greek verb root (transliterated "eucharisteo"; pronounced "yoo-khar-is-TEH-"), meaning ex-pressing deep heartfelt thanks. Its prefix "eu - " means "good" and "well" and implies an attitude of rejoicing. Thanksgiving describes sincere, heartfelt acknowledgment of appreciation to GOD. Scriptures record the term "thanksgiving" approximately twenty-seven times, and in each reference, it is linked with expressing thanksgiving to GOD during prayer (e.g. v.18).

Paul urge Timothy to pray with great emphasis and purpose for "all men" using the four types of prayer immediately listed. Synonyms for "exhort" include "appeal to", "encourage", and even "beg".

Dear Jesse

You are right on that, the mark will be ON the tight hand. But I would like to point out something that has to do with the word MARK. The Greek text uses the word CHARAGMA for MARK. Charagma is a mark done by engraving, not by stamping or drawing or anything else. Like the ancient people who used to engrave letters on clay tablets using a sharp pencil and then dry them to keep them as written records.

So it is a mark done by engraving. Engraving lines maybe like the Bar Code? Just a thought.

GBU

Dear Jesse, I think I am not in total agreement with you on this topic. Salvation is only from God? To me, no. It sounds extreme but let me explain myself. So far in my christian life I found out that everything that has to do with our relationship with God one part belongs to man to do it and another part belongs to God to do it. God's part, as far as salvation is concerned, was to send his Son to pay for our sins on the cross. Our part is to accept this sacrifice. Later in our christian life Jesus's blood is still available to people as long as they use It, that is repent for the sins they do and ask for forgiveness. If we don't repent then we walk on the edge. If we keep staying in an unrepentant condition then we walk on the edge, If we don't obey God's commandments then we walk on the edge. If we have not a pure heart and play with sin and our salvation then we walk on the edge.

Please read what Jesus tells that pastor of Sardis in Revelation 3:1 "And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou LIVEST and art DEAD". Has he lost salvation or not? The answer is as long as he stays unrepentant he is in danger of going to hell. If he dies at that moment in that condition he will go to eternal darkness, nomatter if he was once saved.

Also read Philippians 2:12 "Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling" Why fear and trembling? I think the answer is obvious.

So salvation is not ensured/secured as long as we are in this body/life.

If I misunderstood your post I am sorry in advance.

Have a nice day. GBU

Very true Jesus is life. Without Jesus not existing we wouldn't be here. Jesus does exists. Many people are going to try to tell you that God doesn't exist. But what scientists tell you or other human people that don't believe in God are trying to lead you wrong. Also Satan knows Jesus is real he just doesn't want others to know the truth. We have to walk by faith not by sight. Scientists and what they say and think always changes. But Jesus words never change nor Jesus himself. I know it's hard to believe but we must stay strong in our faith and we must know what we are thinking or saying. I would advise you to stay more in God's words. Cause that's what is going to help, and pray more Jesus wants to know your struggles he loves and cares for you. Also I was struggling through the same thing you were. And I had to keep on praying and having faith. When the devil bothers you tell Satan to flee from you. Say this - In the name of Jesus Christ get behind me Satan in the name of Jesus. And he will flee from you he will leave you alone. Also prayer also helps and so does bible scriptures.

That's right

I always had a issue with thinking that I would lose my salvation.

But God said in his words that he will never leave me nor forsake me.

And today I still have to remember that because it still bothers me.

The more you read in God's words more that Satan will try to battle you and try to make your relationship with him worse.

God bless you too bro

Hello Alex, it sounds like you're conflating with man's inclination to sin with satan. Sin is an act, satan is an evil being, and these are not synonymous. Just because people are tempted to sin doesn't mean satan automatically must dwell in that person. I believe people can be demon possessed if they invite that into their life.

I noticed you didn't reply with any scripture evidence of your claim, however there is proof against your claim: 1 Corinthians 3:16. The holy spirit dwells within me. God bless.