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I pray for you daily in Jesus name. Lifting up your family and prayer list daily to the Lord.

1 Timothy 6:6

Godliness with contentment is great gain

Hi Kim,

You can go to church anytime. The Sabbath Day has always been the last day of the week - Saturday.

God gave us the Sabbath Day to rest our bodies and minds. We should also use the day to give thanks to our creator, and help others as Jesus showed us how to observe this day. God did not just give his Sabbath Day commandment to Israel - it was made for man - please see scripture below:

Mark 2:27

"And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:"

Jesus said that the sabbath was made for man! All mankind!

God gave us the 10 commandments including the 4th to help us live our lives in a law abiding manner. His commandments are good and just!

Those that say we can ignore God's Commandments are ignoring much bible scripture, including all the commands from Jesus/God.

Read and believe!

I cannot do that by myself . I'm quite cynical about human beings and I like to keep myself to myself as much as I can . I need Christ in me to show me how to do this . I need his spirit and example to guide me in my relations with others . I have to suppress my own sinful nature and let Jesus take the reigns and tell me how to do what he would do . Let him into your heart and let him take u over . He has helped me so much to b a nicer kinder softer hearted person . I'm none of those things naturally .

Yes alex , galatians galatians and more galatians . freedom in christ . he is our life .

ToToo G,

Jesus says that all of the law (Ten Commandments) hang on those two commandments that you are refrencing.

Matthew 22:40

"On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets."

Jesus/God wants you to try keep all of his commandments.

John 14:15

"If ye love me, keep my commandments."

Jesus tells us if we want to enter into heaven we will keep his commandments.

Revelation 22:14

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

Read and Believe!

Is it biblical to have a church Needs Committee with 3 people 2 are cochairs and they decide everything the church wants and needs and without their approval the church can't act even if deacons want something?

Amen! Thanks Brother Chris.

Well spoken.

Please God strengthen Jonathan with Your grace and clarity for You know his heart and his wife's heart. I ask Your protective hand be on the children during this time of difficult I ask in Jesus Christ name. I suggest you reflect on Proverbs 3:5-6, and Joshua 1:9.

The world has not changed, but only for the worse, even as in the times of Christ. The gov'ts that are, are no different then the times of Christ's life in this world. The roman and Jewish nation continue to crucify Him. Masking themselves , while bringing the people into subjection. The church doing it's work, subscribing unto anything that comes down the pipe! If not for the word those who know the truth could not speak or be heard. If not for the word the salvation of man could never be known. Yet, while these who deny Him, will see only glimpses unable to understand the power in the word. The cutting edge as it were, dividing the soul, with only the sharpest blade made! The mercy's of God even unto those who deny Him. While we hear the words of Christ "forgive them Father, they know not what they do!" The door will close, then it will be to late, never again to open! His eye's forever on those that love Him! Remember what He said, It would better that a milestone were tied around the neck and they were cast into the deepest part of the ocean! Those who wish to see His beloved hurt or harmed! The power of the holy spirit it uncovers the vail that has been tied upon the eyes of His creation, by the shepherds who climb up another way! Repent and be Baptized!

Misconceptions about Satan being "bound". Scriptures tend to multilayer prophecy. I mentioned in the commentary on the Millennium that Satan is not yet bound; precisely that refers to the power to hold his body and spirit under the earth (chains) after the angel carries out the action (likely Michael the Archangel). There are several phases to the downfall of Lucifer. The first would have taken him from the worship leader who walked on the "stones of fire" because of pride ( Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28). This would restrict him positionally; and perhaps deny access to the throne area or wherever such worship occurs. Job indicates along with other passages that in meetings with God (divine counsel) he is still present and God uses Him by restricting him to fit the purposes He has to refine His people; and in Job's case prove their character. Jesus states that He saw him "fall as lightning".

This could be the initial fall; or his physical casting out which appears yet future in Revelation. In the "second heavens" the powers and principalities still are present according to Ephesians 6. It is CLEAR from Daniel as well as Revelation that the FINAL version of the prophecy on defiling the temple INITIATED by Antiochus is yet to be completed with subtle differences as WELL as Christ referring to it in warnings of the future.

Satan will know that his time is short after the "accuser of the brethren" is cast down to the earth; and all his angels follow. This time clearly being worse than ANY time previous OR future will be when certain demons will come out of the pit because God allows them to torment men. Satan will be allowed to "overcome the saints" whereas now "the gates of hell will not prevail" against the church. The very real mark of the beast will be taken by ALL not written in the Book of Life. After Armageddon (literal event) Satan is imprisoned for 1000 years then MUST be released then judged and cast into the lake of fire.

The Millennium: Outline

First evidence: Revelation. Satan bound and Antichrist/False Prophet FIRST to be thrown into hell BODILY. Rest of people KILLED at Armageddon awaiting final judgment. Heavenly City SUSPENDED in Rev. 20; lands on earth in Rev. 21 when final

(White throne) judgment unites NEW bodies with souls of lost; these would include those who died in that time period so wording states IF their name isn't written in the Book of Life. After Armageddon; Satan goes to the lake of fire where the BEAST and FALSE PROPHET ARE. Clearly they have already been in punishment 1000 years at this point. To indicate that Satan is already bound is the most dangerous view of Postmillennialism because all the verses about his warring against us would be a past issue thus Ephesians 6; James (in reference to a roaring lion); gospel verses where he is said to "steal; kill and destroy" are considered irrelevant (some say we are in the 1000 years and the final rebellion brings some freedoms for the enemy at that time (i.e. Armageddon is really the Gog and Magog final conflict in Revelation).

Isaiah: Verses mention a man who lives as the life of a tree; and a man who dies at 100 considered a child. It would seem that with Adam and several others living in their 900's; the 1000 year reign allows those who do not rebel to physically make it into the new heavens and earth (stand before God protected). Other verses correlate with the millennium such as kings of the earth remaining but being "punished after many days" (after the Millenium). Man is said to "learn the art of war no more".

Other verses: Indications that men who do not come up to worship God (Egypt as example) will have NO RAIN. Clearly, such rebellion wouldn't occur after that period when the regenerate will sin NO MORE. There are other verses in Psalms that indicate the highway where FOOLISH men won't walk; and Psalm 48 which discusses kings of the earth FEARING God's dwellingplace in Zion.

please remember myself and my daughters and their young families in your prayers today, please pray for my lost coworkers

Romans 8 : 2 The Law of spirit and life in Christ Jesus has made Me free from the LAW OF SIN AND DEATH....Paul

where in the Bible can I find if Jesus told man and woman as husband and wife, the way of their relationship and duties? My daughters husband left her because she got pregnant with their third child and quit her job. But he works and makes enough to pay their bills and have most of what they want.

Thanks for that very pertinent response brother S. Spencer. Sabbath in the beginning was essentially a rest day - for Israel - had nothing to do with worship, though it would have been a good occasion for personal reflection. And yet that Law & all Laws were given to not only show God's Righteous Standards, but Israel's inability to fully obey & reach that standard. Hence, the Law could only point everyone to the One Who could keep it perfectly & this was what Israel should have been earnestly seeking. Had they turned to the Law-Giver rather than rejecting Him, they would have understood that the Law, though holy & good, "was weak through the flesh" (it was powerless because our flesh could never meet & fulfil its high demands).

Israel & all mankind were doomed for their failures & sins, but for 'God sending His Own Son in our flesh, AND for sin, condemned sin in the flesh' ( Romans 8:3). "Sin is the transgression of the Law" but Jesus brought judgement to that sin (not to the Law) by meeting its every demand upon Him. So the Law & the sin that is its product, is now rendered useless/uncondemning to those who take hold of Jesus by faith - deriving their righteousness, that is without the Law, through the One Who gives us the victory over sin's judgement & sin's power, that is to say, the Law.

While we live "in Christ Jesus" and "walk after the Spirit" fulfilling the righteousness of the Law ( Romans 8:1,4) based on faith in the One Who abrogated the letter which only kills, how then can we turn to (or, even appeal to) the "weak & beggarly elements" that only have bondage & sin as their end ( Galatians 4:9)? Just a few thoughts here that your comment inspired in me to share.

God please remove all the obstacles in the way of my ex wife and I reconciling. I thought there was hope, but that dream has shattered. Please help us to forgive one another, find one another, and allow one another to love each other and raise our three children in a loving environment. God please...all I want in my life is Veronica and my three kids. Please help my dream come true...I need a miracle.

Hello, not everyone believes that interpretation. The Bible is clear that the dead will be caught up in the air. It says they will be sleeping before that. There's more Biblical support for that than the alternative. Paul's actual quote of 'rather' being with the Lord is taken out of context so often its like the telephone game. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18

Thanks Peter. Just to confirm the family line (Judah): King Jehoshaphat's son was Jehoram ( 2 Chronicles 21:1) & Jehoram's son was Jehoahaz (or, Ahaziah): 2 Chronicles 21:17. All Jehoahaz's siblings were killed by the Philistines, etc. & he was the only one left; therefore, heir to the throne. So, if Jehoahaz "followed in the footsteps of his own father", he wouldn't have done well at all, since Jehoram was evil as well taking on the evil ways of the kings of Israel ( 2 Chronicles 21:6,11,13).

And yes, a good person, or king in this instance, can start off well, but if he begins to forget the Lord, not taking in the Word, not listening to God's warnings through the prophets, then he opens himself up to all manner of wickedness, not only giving in to the lusts of the people, but also propagating the apparatus to serve other gods & to overfill their lusts. The kings of Israel had a bad record in this regard; all of them evil (all 18 of them, though Jehu appeared 'good' in part) till their captivity to Assyria. And of the 19 kings of Judah, 8 appeared to serve the Lord with a heart & will towards God, yet the Babylonian captivity awaited them too.

And we see the same today as believers, when our eyes turn from the Lord & His Word, our hearts begin to wander & the appeal of the flesh begin to take hold. So the apostles had to continually warn & teach the Church to the end that they would set their hearts right again & not suffer under the discipline of God. Both Israel & Judah had every opportunity & warning, as does the Church now, but they tested the Lord's patience to the point of suffering & banishment. This again reminds us that it's not worth the pain & loss - the world ought to have no appeal to our hearts, just as Israel & Judah should have been so circumspect given all that the Lord had done for them & all this before their very eyes. The OT has some great lessons for us today. Blessings brother & the Lord's enrichment in every way to your life.

Hi SolaScrip.

As promised I would respond to your reply when time permits.

You said Isaiah 65 "is not part of the Millennium doctrine, it is said to come after that time frame. The Millennium."

I have to disagree, here's why.

Isaiah 65:20 . There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

This can't be after the Millennium, Because after the Millennium there is a new heaven and new earth and there is no death in Heaven.

Revelation 21:1-3.

Revelation 21:4. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and THERE SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Can't be the Millennium, people die in the Millennium.

Isaiah gives along with so many other scriptures gives us a picture of what is to come in the Millennium.

In Revelation 20. we see the Millennium and we see the final judgment of mankind and the weakness of the flesh displayed while under the perfect governing.

Isaiah 65:17. Gives us what's to come after the judgment.

Isaiah 65:18-25. reflects back on the Millennium.

These verses you mentioned in Mathew 24 and Isaiah 13 comes before the Millennium.

You mentioned Revelation 10:6. means time ended.

I believe Revelation 10:6. means there will be no more delay. It's a confirmation of the words Christ in his Olivet discourse.

You said The thousand years period is not mentioned nowhere in scripture but Revelation 20. But it's mentioned 6 times in Ch 20! It's pretty clear it's literal.

You said Revelation is symbolic.

The Amillennium view holds those views. I suppose the Devil is symbolically chained today in the midst of the 1000 years if so when will he be loosed or is he already loosed?

I will share more at a later date.

God bless you.

That is a very good question, but as much as i remember, while the Lord was still alive and ministering, He said the Sabbath was for the man and not man for the Sabbath, and that the Father is always working, even on the Sabbath.

The point of Sabbath, in my humble opinion, is not which day of the week, but one day of the week, whichever you can, pray and meditate on the Word of the Lord and nothing much else. Not even cook dinner! A whole day of prayers and meditation on the Word of the Lord.

I would also like to add that, the Commandment you mentioned is in the Old Testament, and it does not apply to Christians, we have two, 1st: Love the Lord your God as you love yourself and 2nd: Love your neighbour as you love yourself. And your neighbour is anyone you see!

May the Lord Jesus Christ bless your heart and thanks for your wonderful question.

Totoo

GOD is Amazing & doesn't cease from amazing me, again & again!! Recently over the past month, I noticed the signs of the "trumpet" blasts, within the WORD. I was researching a question about the gathering. Then I noticed it's significance with the "last trumpet blasts" 1Corinthains 15:52, Revelation 10, starting with the mighty angel clothed in the cloud:" after Revelation 9, explaining the "sixth trumpet blast", Revelation 10:7, Matthew 24:31, Matthew 24:4-39, 1Thessalonians 4:16,17,18

I knew there was more for me to study in the Trumpet blasts. I had also noticed them in Old Testament.

Thank you for your response, it in the least, is directing me back to look & see what GOD is trying to show me. I had also wondered what events had already taken place & working out the other ones.

Thanks I'm looking deeper into it. Thank you also for the comforting words of protection as with also, Zechariah 9:14-16,

Do you feel the burden of Ezekiel 33:6?

Amen E.

I agree with you in prayer tonight

Good evening Phoebe, Nice to meet you.

I know that in families there can be a lot of humor. I have 9 siblings. When I look back on my childhood, there was a lot of horsing around, joking, laughing at ourselves and our sibs. But between me and my youngest sister are 4 brothers/ They teased her relentlessly from the time she was young since there was four years between her and the next older brother. This sing was cruel and very damaging to her. She has been in therapy for years beginning in her late teens, she is now 55 and still in therapy. She has anxiety/depressive disorder, most likely from this trauma. I did not wish to imitate my family life growing up with my family life with my husband and children. As an extended family we have memorable moments we seem to recall often when the kids were young and said or did funny things. But in this scenario, we are not belittling them or making fun of them. We are just remembering the occasions from the viewpoint of adults lovingly reminding our children that they said and did some funny things!

So, I think that is o.k. as long as it not reflecting sarcasm, put downs, ridicule, comparisons among children, unrelenting, in a tone that send the message that the person is devalued in any way. There is a fine line between sin and humor. One should work at saying and doing things that build the other person up, making a person feel like they are treasured and not a butt end of jokes. We should endeavor to speak words to others that will not compromise the perceived veracity of our message of Jesus to them. Anyone fooled by a prank has felt devalued, outcast (by not knowing about the joke like everyone else in the group did), and made to feel stupid for falling for it. This is not Christ-like, in my opinion.

So, check out the Scripture of others replying to your post. The more we fill our selves up with God's truth, the more thoughtful, caring, and benevolent we are to others. We can speak life into others by our love.

Hi Kim

The sabbath day was given to Israel,

not the Church.

If one desire to keep the law he can't just keep the 4th commandment, he must keep the whole law "perfectly" ALL HIS LIFE!

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

James 2:10-11.

We are to rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross. "Meaning he paid the penalty for us and everyone who cannot and never could keep the law. And that's everyone, even Moses.

Colossians 2:15-17. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

If you believe the sabbath is for the Church and you go to service on the sabbath you probably would somehow do something to break the sabbath.

I believe the first man stoned to death was because he gathered sticks, Probably to kindle a fire.

see here:

Num. 15:32-35. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

Keeping the law imperfectly is "still" a death sentence.

God bless.

VERSE OF THE DAY TODAY.

Love this verse. It reminds me that our Lord is really everything we need or could every truly satisfy our heart's desires.

Praise be the Lord! Blessed be my Rock! Glory be to my Strong Tower! Hail to my Refuge! Worthy is the Lord God, my Salvation!

Holy, Holy, Holy is my God who lives and reigns forever! Let us exalt His Name together!

SolaScript,

This isn't an argument I like, simply because we are not getting the whole picture, it's a dream state in Plato's cave.

I'm dismayed to report that your context lacks continuity:

Revelation 6 describes subsequent seals, through sixth seal events that lead up to and are actually kicks off (vs 12) the day of the Lord. You must have got mixed up here, made a mistake in scripture selection.

Revelation 7:13-14 These are the 7th trumpet saints, resurrected from the great tribulation and standing in heaven, they were previously getting sealed in verses 1-8.

Matthew 24:29-31 This sequence tells of the 6th trumpet (vs 29) and the 7th trumpet 2nd coming of Christ (vs 30). They are 2 separate events in time.

Isaiah 13:9-11 This is a classic 6th trumpet, day of the Lord depiction.

Revelation 7:15-17 OK, this is a millennium scripture.

The earth was not ever fully destroyed, and that is the absolute reason why Jesus intervenes on our affairs. Jesus returns when he does to stop anti-christ's feuding army from completely blowing up the earth. God lures the beast to Armageddon, where originally the beast was going to fight the false prophet to the death, until Christ showed up. If Jesus didn't save the earth, then whats the point of a savior? He didn't die on the cross in vain. I strongly believe you are reading this wrong, and limited sources doesn't help much.

Daniel 7:12 will manifest itself in our realm, like anti-christ will manifest himself after the falling away. The other beasts are nations, and peoples, not figments of God's imagination. These characters are real nations and real people, doing the Lord's will. The same on earth as in heaven, so above, so below. We are soon moving on to a new age, and changes are on the way.

Hi Kim

The sabbath day was given to Israel,

not the Church.

If one desire to keep the law he can't just keep the 4th commandment, he must keep the whole law "perfectly" ALL HIS LIFE!

For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

James 2:10-11.

We are to rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross. "Meaning he paid the penalty for us and everyone who cannot and never could keep the law. And that's everyone, even Moses.

Colossians 2:15-17. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

If you believe the sabbath is for the Church and you go to service on the sabbath you probably would somehow do something to break the sabbath.

I believe the first man stoned to death was because he gathered sticks, Probably to kindle a fire.

see here:

Num. 15:32-35. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.

And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.

And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.

And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.

Keeping the law imperfectly is "still" a death sentence.

God bless.

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Hi, it looks like T. Levis shared some good verses about that.

My answer would be 'it depends'. God knows your heart, intentions, motives. Humor is good and I like to think that God appreciates humor and blessed us with a sense of humor. However, there is a point where making fun is bad when hurting and insulting people, and when done with bad intent. Deceiving is lying and a sin. Much wisdom of the Bible seems to lean towards giving people a break and showing huge grace and forgiveness even when others may not seem to deserve it, because Jesus forgave us when we didn't deserve it.

Along with taking the high road, being conservative and sensitive to others, being loving, giving others the benefit of the doubt, and being gentle and kind. Much horseplay, comedy, pranks, involves doing so at anothers expense. Unless the victim in it asked for it specifically by you and wanted to be roasted, I think doing anything at someone else's expense is usually not very Christianlike, as Christians are to be loving and the light of the world. That is just my opinion without any specific examples to go from. God bless you.

Hebrews 4:12, Romans 12:17-21, Psalm 101:7