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Thanks GiGi.

trying to steer in another direction

while stuck at home do to rarely seen snow storm in Georgia.

Jocelyn

IF!! you believe the jkv bible. God breathe your soul into your body then, your soul bring you alive

Your soul enters the body with your first breath and leaves your body with your last breath

Genesis 2:7

"And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

King James Version (KJV

I was asking if our souls are suppose to go to Heaven how are we suppose to actually know that if we don't know they're there in the first place.

Ecclesiastes 12:7

"Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it."

King James Version (KJV) tells us this

Where does the soul go when we die? kjv scriptures

Hi Jocelynne.

Can you rephrase your question?

Thanks in advance.

God bless.

Thanks again, S.Spencer..

I'm enjoying reading your posts today. It is refreshing.

In short, they disobeyed God.

1.) Adam let his wife (eve) wonder about alone in the garden.

2.) Eve let another man speak to her without having her husband present.

3.) Eve added in to Scripture:

"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die." - Said Eve Genesis 3:3

However God said "But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die." Genesis 2:17; She could touch the fruit, but she was commanded not to eat it.

4.) Adam listened to Eve, instead of listening to his Father

I just wanted to thank all for the time and effort put forth on this site. For I surly can say I by far , am a student, an old man !!!! I enjoy everyone's comments , an the shall I dare say " competitive Banter " !!!! I've never been one to be aggressive or angry,.. for the word of God is always growing an can never be totally learned by anyone of us , we are to ask , an to seek , from him , not a flesh body know it all ,.. most important , then we are to pause, meditate, an try to understand,.. an hey , sometimes, I don't know, an I just keep trying,.. I am simply a Christian, an I really do not know how others teach in there churches,.. nor would I judge,.. I believe totally in that book of James , if anyone lacks for knowledge, let them ask ,.. an please, remember, on that great white throne judgement day , it starts with the teachers , preachers , an the ones who claim to be,.. so please be very careful, God dose not like those , who teach his children falsely, not only will you be accountable for your sins , but for all of those you taught,.. an that my fens , is a very big mess

Peace

Dear Glenn

The reference about Jacob and Esau are a refer nice to God's omniscience, that God knew before creation all that would ever happen, all that anyone would think, say, and do.

It is it talking about Jacob and Esau existing prior to conception.

In speaking by about Jeremiah, Gid is speaks my about what He had pre-ordained not about Jeremiah existing prior to conception.

Again, since these verses do not prove a spiritual pre-existence of humans, I am open for you to supply Scripture that clearly teaches this.

You're welcome GiGi.

I listen to him on blue letter bible audio.

The natural man.

Part 1 of 2.

In1 Corinthians 2:6-16, the natural man is compared to the spiritual man and the carnal man. Verse 14 says, "A natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised" (NASB). This verse does not define the natural man, as such; rather, it uses the term to describe one who does not understand God's words and thoughts. The one who can understand God's words is a "spiritual" man (verse 15).

Dr. Henry Morris, in theNew Defender's Study Bible, gives this comment on verse 14: "The 'natural' man, still unsaved, cannot appreciate spiritual truths. He must first understand Christ's atoning sacrifice for him, but even that is 'foolishness' to him (1:18) until the Holy Spirit Himself convicts him of its reality ( John 16:7-11)." Basically, the "natural" man is one who does not have the Holy Spirit residing within him. As Jesus said, "Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit" ( John 3:6).

Let's look at some other uses in the Bible of the wordnatural. InRomans 11:21we read, "For if God did not spare thenaturalbranches, neither will He spare you." In1 Corinthians 15:44-46, "It is sown anaturalbody, it is raised aspiritual body. If there is anaturalbody, then there is also a spiritual body. However the spiritual is not first, but thenatural; then the spiritual." Ezekiel 44:31speaks of anaturaldeath. Daniel 10:8speaks of anaturalcolor. James 1:23speaks of anaturalface, andJames 3:15states, "This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly,natural, demonic."

Natural man.

Part 2 of 2.

In1 Corinthians 2, Paul uses the wordnaturalto refer to someone still in his original (sinful) state. The Greek wordpsuchikos("natural") can be defined as "animal as opposed to "spiritual." Natural men are those who are occupied with the things of this material world to the exclusion of the things of God. They are led by instinct rather than by the Spirit of God. They intuitively choose sin over righteousness. They are the "pagans" Jesus refers to inMatthew 6:32who only seek after the things of this world.

The supernatural work of God is to change the natural man into a spiritual one. When a person trusts Christ, God exchanges what is natural (received from Adam) for what is spiritual (received from Christ). "As in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive" ( 1 Corinthians 15:22). The Christian life is, therefore, a supernatural one. We do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit ( Romans 8:1).

Another gem from J vernon mcgee.

God bless.

Ronald

I do don't think that you were negating Adam and Eve's free will. I understood that you were speaks my to God's sovereignty and omniscience in accomplishing all that he planned for the salvation of humanity and ultimate defeat of Satan, sin and evil. And I concur with your viewpoint on this.

Thanks S. Spencer

That was good read

I miss listening to McGee on the radio.

Good night what is apollos water

Sanctification of the Saint

By J vernon mcgee.

Part 1 of 6

Now Paul moves out of this area into another area: sanctification. Being justified by faith, we have now come to the place where God sanctifies us. After all, justification does not change our hearts; we're still the same kind of persons. Therefore, God wants to move into our lives and sanctify us, make us better people than we are. And His method, of course, is through the Holy Spirit. Paul presents this in a very wonderful way.

Potential Sanctification

First of all Paul shows us potential sanctification:

Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death passed upon all men, for all have sinned.( Romans 5:12)

Now when he says, "All have sinned," he's not talking about our acts of sin. Rather he's referring to the sin that Adam committed when he disobeyed God in the Garden of Eden which, he says, is your sin and my sin. Immediately someone will resent that. He will say, "Why should I be charged with Adam's sin? I don't want Adam being the one to choose for me. I want to make the choice." Well, my friend, whether you like it or not, it just so happens that the choice of your ancestors turns out to be your choice as well.

I had a grandfather who lived in Northern Ireland. He was a Scotsman and, believe me, he knew what persecution was. He left Northern Ireland and came to Georgia; he didn't like Georgia either - grandfather was a hard fellow to please - so he went on over to Mississippi to live and finally ended up in Texas, for that's where he's buried. May I say to you, years ago when he decided to come to the United States, I came to the United States. That's when I came. His decision was my decision. Whether I like it or not (and I like it) he came to this country. I'm glad he didn't stay in Northern Ireland, because if he had I'd be over there today. I'm glad that he came to this country; his decision was my decision.

Sanctification.

Part 2 of 6.

Continued-

Adam's decision is our decision whether we like it or not. That was God's way in order that He might justify you and me by faith, if you please. That is the basis of sanctification because now He is enabled to take us out of the old Adam and put us in the new Adam. That new

Adam is the Lord Jesus Christ. We are put in Him by faith, and that is the method by which God is able to sanctify us today.

Positional Sanctification

Then Paul talks about positional sanctification. This is one of the most debated and controversial passages in the Scripture:

What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound?( Romans 6:1)

And here's God's answer: "God forbid" or, "Let it not be." If you think that because you are saved by grace you can live in sin, you are not saved, my friend. It is very obvious here that Paul is making that clear - "Let it not be." If you have been saved by the grace of God, you will not go on living in sin. You have been given a new nature. He tells us three things that must be ours if we are to be sanctified.

1. First of all, we are to know something:

Know ye not that, as many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?( Romans 6:3)

A literal translation would be: Are you ignorant that so many of us who were identified into union with Jesus Christ were identified in His death?

2. Then we are to identify with something:

Therefore, we are buried with him by baptism into death....( Romans 6:4)

This verse has nothing in the world to do with water; rather, it has to do with identification. The word "baptize" means identification with something. We are identified with Christ. When Christ died over 1900 years ago, I died; and you died if you are in Christ today. When He was raised from the dead, you and I were raised from the dead so that now we are in a new Head of the human race. That new Head of the human race is the Lord Jesus Christ.

Sanctification.

part 3 of 6.

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.( Romans 6:6)

"Knowing this" - these are things we know. When Paul says your "old man" is crucified with Him, he doesn't mean your father; he means your old nature is crucified with Him. "That the body of sin might be destroyed." (The word "destroyed" is the Greekkatargeo, meaning to make of none effect, to be paralyzed or canceled or nullified.) "That henceforth we should not serve sin." Paul is not saying that the old nature is eradicated. He is saying that since the old man was crucified, the body of sin has been put out of business so that from now on we should not be in bondage to sin.

Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him.( Romans 6:8)

Let me repeat that when He died over 1900 years ago, we died with Him.

3. Now we are to reckon on something. He says here,

Likewise, reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ, our Lord.( Romans 6:11)

You are to reckon (count) on this fact. If you came to me today and told me that you deposited $1,000 for me in the local bank and you handed me a checkbook, may I say to you, I could carry that checkbook around till my dying day and not use it if I did not reckon on it or count on it. But when you told me that, I would count on its being on deposit. I'd say, "I have $1,000 in that bank over there," and I would write out a check. May I say to you, that's what it means to reckon on it.

Now count on the fact that God has put you in Christ and that you are now in the Lord Jesus Christ. We are no longer to live in the old nature, but we are to live in Christ - just as a bird lives in the air and a fish lives in the water.

Practical Sanctification

Now may I say that this is not only positional sanctification; it is practical sanctification.

Romans 6:13.

Continue see part 4.

Sanctification.

Part 4 of 6.

When you are saved, you are given a new nature, and that new nature enables you to be obedient to God. The thing that Paul is saying here is that you and I are to obey God. Obedience is now the mark of this child of God. Lawlessness on the part of those today who claim to be Christians reveals whose they are. Lawlessness is not a mark of a believer at all. If you are a believer, you are not lawless; you are obedient to Him. The reason that my favorite hymn is "Trust and Obey" is because these two go together:

When we walk with the Lord

In the light of His Word,

What a glory He sheds on our way.

While we do His good will,

He abides with us still,

And with all who will trust and obey.

Trust and obey

For there's no other way

To be happy in Jesus,

But to trust and obey.

You see, if you trust Him for your salvation, you will be given a new nature so that you can be obedient to Him. That old nature you have is a spiritual Bolshevik; it is in rebellion against God. But you have a new nature if you are God's child and you will want to be obedient to Him.

Part 5 of 6.

Powerless Sanctification

Now Paul shows inRomans 7that you and I cannot be obedient in our own strength. It is powerless sanctification. There are two great truths that come out of this. The first one is:

For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing....( Romans 7:18)

You and I have nothing good in our flesh. The old nature can never do anything that is pleasing to God. The fact of the matter is, Paul says,

Because the carnal mind is enmity against God; for it is not subject to the law of God, neither, indeed, can be.( Romans 8:7)

You and I have an old nature - even if you are redeemed you have that old nature - and it will be with you until your dying day. That old nature is in rebellion against God. For instance, sometimes you don't want to hear the teaching of the Word of God, you just have to somehow bring yourself to it. It is amazing what that old nature can think of to rebel against God. It hates the Word of God; it doesn't love to pray. That old nature is in rebellion against Almighty God. Did you ever have those feelings?

But if you are a believer, you have a new nature, and Paul says this concerning it:

...For to will is present with me, but how to perform that which is good I find not.( Romans 7:18)

Paul found out that there was no good in his old nature and that there was no power in his new nature.

Sanctification

part 6 of 6.

God's New Provision for Sanctification

Now this is where God moves on the scene, and we have God's new provision for sanctification.

There is, therefore, now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus....( Romans 8:1)

That is,chapter 7of Romans describes Paul's failure when he was a believer. I think this took place when he was first converted after the Damascus Road experience. He found failure in the Christian life. But even then there was no condemnation because he was in Christ. It did not disturb or wreck his salvation at all, but he was not happy. There was no joy, no power in his life.

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son, in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh, that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.( Romans 8:2-4)

Believers have a new nature, but it has no power. You cannot live for God in your own strength. It is only as you and I come and yield to Him, it is only as you and I will obey Him, that we can be well pleasing to Him. It is only by the power of the indwelling Holy Spirit that you and I can live for God. Now Paul makes that extremely clear:

For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. For to be carnally minded is death, but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.( Romans 8:5,6)

If you are to have life and peace - that is, a Christian life filled with the fruits of the Holy Spirit - it must be by the power of the Holy Spirit. You can never achieve them on your own.

God bless.

Kinsman redeemer. Part 2.

We see in several verses Jews and Gentiles alike is redeemed by the blood of Christ, We are reconciled in one body. "Baptism"

Ephesians 2:11-22.

RECONCILIATION.

Romans 5:8-11.

2 Corinthians 5:17-19. Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.

And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation;

To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, NOT INPUTTING THEIR TRESPASSES UNTO THEM; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD.

Romans 3:21-22.

2 Corinthians 5:21.

The way God provides this righteousness is not by man's working for it, not by man's paying for it, not by man's getting it on the installment plan with the idea that he will pay later, but that God gives it to him. Man can receive it only by faith.

God bless.

T. Levis

Good morning

Yes, I read that Jacob had been in Haran 20 years and had 11 children there. Dinah was the second youngest and Joseph was the youngest accordance by to the geneology given n Genesis 29. Benjamin was born last after they left Shechem and we're almost to Bethlehem.

So many in calculating ages at least be time of leaving Haran, Rueben the oldest was at the most between 19 and 20 when they left Haran.

Allowing 18 months to 2 years between births and four wives, it seems that Dinah was about 3 when they left Haran. So, Genesis says that Jacob lived for a short time In Succoth before moving to Shechem, and perhaps living there for a short while until they left for Bethlehem, in is very likely that Dinah was just about the age of puberty and at an age to be married when she was raped.

As to Joseph being 17 when he was still led into slavery, it was after Benjamin was born, so apparently the family moved between pasturelands to graze their flocks as Abraham and Isaac had done. So it doesn't necessarily mean that they lived in Shechem with until Joseph was 17, but most likely the family kept their land holdings in Succoth and Shechem and perhaps in other communities like Hebron, etc.to be able to graze their flocks in these areas as the grass on these fields grew and we're ready for grazing.

Thanks. I meant to correct it and put Job 37:18. Appreciate the reply:)

Hi John

For one, I believe that Mormomism teach s that Jesus and Lucifer were brothers.

And they teach that God progresses, therefore He changes. They teach that Jesus became a god after His ascension and that we will progress to become gods, too.

These views are at variance to Biblical Christian teachings held by the Church over the centuries.

Religious people repeate Letters absent of the fruit of the Spirit" resulting in dead works.The letter killeth but the Spirit Revives. Speaking flattering ego ceceptive words only serves to bolster the ego of wolves in sheep's clothing. Each true servent of God ,are targeted firstly be crafty servents of Satan who seduce people with smooth tounges and fine garments Cars Houses in Gated Communities. TV Broadcast , and lower level preachers who feed off the poor they hold captive. Perverting the Ture Gospel of Christ. leading hungry sould further away from the love of God they already have. I take theposition of I'd rather be a usher at God house then dine at the head Table of the Opresser of Gods People. Over years and years of listening to blind leaders and moving on I learned to seek the Truth directly from God ,and to ask God to teach me the truth in a understnding that is aplliable in transforming and renweing the old flesh materialisitc attachments, lettig go of old things so fresh new awareness can be realized. We should be equiped with he Words of God that is powerful to stamp out satanatic networks that stalk our children at School and attacking family memebrs or any who have aligned with Eveil doers ,Calling the police and going to Court is not guranteed, But deliberate precise spirit directed uttterence of God Words is 100% guranteed against any and all Weapons aimed at us , Reading and not beleving is muggling the OX. Leaning to the Flesh blocks us off from Divine activation. It is my prayer that Gods Children will go directly to hime as Jesus told us to ,Asking anything in his name and the father is guranteed to do it for us. Detach from all doubters near who the enemy uses to dump cold water on your fire for God. Psalms 38-20.68-68-21-109-3. Jeremiah1-19- Psalms 27-3- Isiah29-5. are Weapons of God more powerful than any weapons developed my the minds of Warmongers. who abuse the weak .

Hi Tccc. Job 27:18 is talking about a wicked Man's portion from Yah.

Yes CLAUDETTE V MCFARQUHAR, ask you have encouraged me so will I encourage thee. Yah is our great provider. He spares no good thing when he showers his blessings upon us. He is a way maker, making a way when there is no way. He is our breath of life, our movement, and he upholds us all. Thank you CLAUDETTE V MCFARQUHAR for your encouragement and I pray that Yah keeps you in his fold.

Yahweh I lift up Tricia's Mom before the throne. She has cancer and multiple tumors spread throughout her body. Yahweh we know that you are a healer, and that you hold all power in your hands. You also said, where two or more stand in agreement that there shall you be. So I stand with Tricia in asking for you to open the windows of heaven and pour her mother out a blessing where there is not room enough to receive. May you restore her health completely. Dry up he cancer and tumors that are within her body. We do ask these things in the name of your only begotten Son, Lord Jesus Christ.