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Kinsman redeemer by the humanity of Jesus Christ.

We see the kinsman redeemer in Leviticus 25:25. and we see it carried out in the book of Ruth chapters 1-4.

we see in Revelation 5:1-5. we see a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. and no one was able to open the book but the Lord Jesus. If you notice verse 3 it had to be a "MAN"/Human. And he had to be able. Perfect/Sinless. and he has to be willing. This could only happen by the deity of Christ in his Human form.

(His deity, He cannot sin.) (His humanity, He can take on our sin.) His humanity makes him our kinsman redeemer.

References:

Galatians 4:4-5.

Hebrews 2:9-11.

Luke 4:18:19. The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, to preach the acceptable year of the Lord. "Restitution of all things"

Acts 3:21. (I believe this is yet to come)

I believe the jubilee foreshadowed this.

study Leviticus 25:8-25.

What are we presently redeemed from? Galatians 3:13. The law condemned us and faith in Christ justified us.

Galatians 3:5-13.

However, our bodies have not been redeemed yet, If so there will be no more death.

Also, Romans 8:19-23.

GOD BLESS.

In Hebrews, What is the weight that we are to set aside

Esdras is not the holy bible 66 books kjv. is this the catholic books the apocrypha?

I see you have Ecc1 I:18 I really don't know how I missed seeing that passage but that's the one thanks

Ronald,

You are very perceptive. I agree, everything created was for Hod's glory and this tree of the knowledge of good and evil and Lucifer were all factored into God's eternal wisdom in Creation. God, by allowing His created beings free will which could include disobedience and rebellion, God proves Himself just in passing judgment on sin and evil angelic beings and proves Himself merciful and loving and just by planning ahead of time to redeem mankind from sin. And He preordained that all these events would happen in heaven and on earth so that in the end of time, sin, evil, and the devil will be completely judged and vanquished in the lake of fire forever along with unbelievers, and thus leaving the rest of whom He created to live eternally with Him in a state of sinlessness and perfect satisfaction with living for God's glory.

Ecc1 I:18.is one of the verses !!!

Ecc1:18 For in much wisdom is much grief; and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow thanks everyone !!

Why was innocent life destroyed during the flood. Infant babies, animals? They did not sin against GOD? This has always puzzled me.

Satan hates Christian s Jesus loves us

Oops meant sons of God.

Phone keeps changing what I type. Grrr

I would present that the Don's of God in Job 1 are angelic beings, perhaps archangels, who answer to God concerning their activities.

Jim Gbu but you are like so many, Not realizing that Jesus didn't want anyone to know he was God the SON.....He tried to hid most all his miracles ....Saying see that no man know it , He tried to hid everything...He wd only let it out in parables....telling it but not really telling it...Thats y he said these things are Hid from the wise and prudent...but revealed unto babes.....The babes being the secrets an ISRAEL OF God that is coming via his seed the words of the new covenant....I will open my mouth in a parable and reveal mysteries that have been kept Secret from the beginning of the world...etc....I will utter things that has been kept secret from the begining of the world.....The big secret was he was gonna sow the very seed of god in humanity making humanity like God....To whom the word came it made them Gods and the scriptures cannot be broken....EVER....As these things are hid from the wise and prudent but are gonna be revaled unto babes and sucklings his Children.....Isaiah said he ws see his seed etc....which is the H.G. THAt Child of PROMISE, ...That are gonna be as the stars of heaven.....AND GOD was so passionate about this Promise he swore by his very self

1. Pray GOD heal my mother Jaya Chetri from Weak Lungs, Asthma, cough and cold, chest congestion, Mucus Coughing, sore throat, blood pressure, bad dreams, weak digestion, full body nerves pain and from all her sicknesses.

2. Pray GOD forgive all our sins, pray GOD hear all our prayer, pray GOD bless and heal all the sick people and animals, especially all those people who are suffering from Covid-19 corona virus, Delta virus, Omicron virus and from other sicknesses.

"With GOD all things are Possible"

Thank you and GOD Bless.

Jim ...Jesus was inpling that he was God when he says a Sower went forth to sow his seed which was the living WORD

And to whom the Word came it made them Gods....Jesus cd not propagate very God with his seed if he were not God

Simply b/c God almighty said that everything has to Multiply after is kind....( Spirit ) As jesus said that which is born

of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G....That Child of PROMISE....Remember that great Promise was multiplication of

Christ seed...the living WORD the seed of the Sower...Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the words of

God.....Jim you are not realizing that only God cd go forth and sow that heavenly seed which is the living WORD...We

cannot sow that heavenly seed unless Christ has been born in us....The son of man...Mankinds fruit unto God...

Thats y i keep telling ya about an Israel of God...which is an Order of Gods that is gonna be born in humanity via the

seed of Christ....ya gota realize he multiplies after the God kind..Spirits the H.G.. PLURAL....When he breathe on them

he was propagating very God....Thats y he said receive the H.G.....Thus he is truly the FATHER of the H.G....And thats

y Isaiah refers to him as everylasting Father.....Simply b/c he is able to propagate after the God kind...Spirits....And our

Lord refers to this as a spiritual Pregnancy.....When a woman is in travail she has sorrows...but after the Child comes

her sorrows are turned into Joy....The Child being the H.G. The Child of Promise....The multiplication of Christ in

humanity....US SINNERS......Unto us a Child is born unto us a Son is given.....But Jesus said that these things are hid

from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes....Which are Baby SPIRITS...the H.G. that is gonna be as the stars of heaven.....As the kingdom of HEAVEN is gonna be within us.

I will comment on versus 14-15; the Old Testament was called the handwriting of ordinances as in Ephesians 2:14-16, which was blotted out as it was against Christians, being contrary to Christians. Christ, took it out of the way, nailing the Old Testament to his cross, spoiling the principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them.

Let us be warned not to take down from the cross what the Lord Jesus nailed there, to build his church, or we too will be transgressors, knowing that any Christians who obeys one Old Testament law, is under the curse to obey all of them. Galatians 3:10

I have covid . Asking for a little prayer for healing.

I would like to comment on versus 14-16 here the Apostle Paul speaks about the Old Testament, which is also called the Mosaic Law, he first points out the Lord Jesus is our peace, who has made Jew and Gentile one. He also broke down the Old Testament, called the middle wall of partition, separating the Jew from the Gentile. Having abolished, meaning he destroyed the Old Testament, in his flesh, which was the war, or enmity, between Jew and Gentile, even the law of commandments from the O.T. contained in ordinances. In order to make in himself a new man, called a Christian, so making peace. Reconciling both Jew and Gentile unto God, in the body of Christ, by the cross, having slain or killed the Old Testament, which was the enmity, meaning war between those two.

Hi Rod; When speaking about the law being destroyed, I am talking about the Old Testament, which is also called the Mosaic Law. It was this law that was destroyed by the Lord Jesus Christ on Calvary according to the wisdom of the Apostle Paul in Ephesians 2:14-16 and Colossians 2:14-15 Knowing as Christians if we obey one of those laws we are cursed to obey them all. Galatians 3:10 which is a quotation from Deut. 27:26 Now in your argument you thought I was speaking about the Ten Commandments in stone according to Matthew 5:17-18 This is referred unto in scripture as the old covenant, as in Deut. 5:2-3 and Hebrews 9:4 These are two different laws, the one O.T. is the law of Moses, while the other one, old covenant, is the Law of the Lord, or Law of God, or moral law. These are not the same, although they share the same name as the word law, but have two distinct different meanings. While the Old testament was created by angels, as in Acts 7:53 and Galatians 3:19 knowing the word disposition and ordained share a similar meaning, to set in order or create, yet the Ten Commandments in stone, was written by the finger of God. Now this law had an expiry date, Christ did not come to destroy this law, but to fulfil this law, but once it was fulfilled it was then dead, as In Matthew 5:18 - Luke 16:16 - Romans 7:6-7 If you read carefully those scriptures I have mentioned, and need be, pray over them, you should come to the understanding of the Apostle Paul on this matter as he fought against obeying these two things in many of his epistles, as he was against Christians obeying the Old Testament and the old covenant. Because you mentioned the least commandments in Matthew 5:19 I would like to say, these twelve hundred commandments found in the gospels and epistles, are all to be considered the least commandments, while only the two greatest commandments on how to love God, and how to love your neighbor need interpretation by these least commandments of how this is done

Rick, As a child growing up I started with Genesis and got bogged down and closed the Book for 20 years. I made a mess of my life and ended up in a good Bible-believing church at 26 where I heard the Bible preached for the first time with power and authority. In conjunction with the truth of God's word (which I accepted), I learned about Jesus Christ who he is and what he did for me, for all of us. The Holy Ghost confirmed the preacher's words (which were not his words, but God's word) and convicted me of my lost, sinful, hell-bound state. It took three months, but I finally came to the place where I personally believed on the Lord Jesus Christ and called on him in faith. The transaction that took place that day is called the new birth (Ye must be born again ( John 3)). God entered into my life that day and I've never been the same since. I am a new creature in Christ Jesus.

If you just take one or a few books of the Bible and try to make sense of the Bible, you will never be able to. You will never be able to come to a full understanding of God or his plan for this world or mankind as it takes all 66 books in concert to truly get a grasp on God's plan, and even then, there are a lot of questions left unanswered about what lies ahead for the redeemed of God other than it will be good as sin and suffering will be eliminated.

So to say I can't move forward, or I won't believe, you will end up as I did as a child. Lost, undone, and ignorant of God.

Some say the Old Testament is the New Testament concealed and the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed. The Bible is not just a collection of arbitrary books, but God's word to man ( 2 Peter 1:21) and you have to accept that.

Consider some of these verses. I can't give you what has taken 26 years to learn in 2K characters, LOL.

GEN 1:26, 2:7, 3:15, 3:22, 11:7

PSA 12:6-7, 22

ISA 45:5-25

ZEC 12:9-10, 13:6-7

LUK 1-2

JHN 1:1-18, 3:1-36

PHL 2:5-11

Start with John and Romans and then branch out.

Please continue to keep in mind the search is about the more that is given the more is expected/required of the person Luke 12 :48 was the closest passage then the reference scripture takes a different subject and that is the punishment for a certain sin but I don't want to stop because I believe that the search will tell about the gifts from God so for the gospel being studied and shared much thanks to everyone iinvolved in this search suggestions are welcome and appreciated.

Jim

The Scriptures do not say that Jesus did not have the Spirit prior to his baptism or that he received the Spirit At his baptism anymore than it says he received The Father.

He was 30 years old at this time. How did he keep from sinning all this years prior to

His baptism. Hebrews said that in Jesus, all the Godhead dwelled on him bodily.

Jesus is a human since conception. But he is also Hod the Son from all eternity, One with the Father and the Son.

I realize you most likely will stick with your view , but I know there are others reading, so it is for everyone reading that I present what is considered orthodox teaching from the witness of the church through the centuries when I address such doctrinal matters because I believe that these orthodox teachings are true and have been attested to as true by most Christians throughout the history of the church because they are supported Scripturally.

Hi Chris; Whenever I refer unto the Old Testament I also call it the law of Moses, because he was the mediator between God and Israel, however; the old covenant simple means the Ten Commandments in stone as in Deuteronomy 5:2-3 & Hebrews 9:4 - Jer. 31:31-34 and Hebrews 8:6-7 Genesis holds three covenants created before the Old Testament, Adam, Noah and Abraham all received a covenant, which was not the Old Testament. Then the angels created the Old Testament, Acts 7:53 & Galatians 3:19 During that dispensation, about 1,600 years or so, God gave the old covenant (Ten Commandments in stone) and the Davidical covenant, howbeit, neither of these were the Old Testament. It is generally speculated that the Old Testament has 613 laws, actually all of which should be in the book of Leviticus, meaning the O.T. specifically is only Leviticus, all other books before the New Testament are not the Old Testament, they are written during that dispensation, although some of them, like Exodus, numbers and Deuteronomy have some of the O.T. written within it. Therefore; you cannot put the four gospels in the Old Testament, as they do not contain any Old Testament laws, neither do they contain obedience to the old covenant, meaning the Ten Commandments in stone. The old covenant was magnified by the Lord Jesus Christ Isaiah 42:21 making it spiritual, harder to obey, and was written in the heart of all Christians Jer. 31:31-34 - Hebrews 8:6-13 & James 1:21 This n.c. sets us free from the o.c. as in Romans 8 for the law of life in Christ Jesus, has made me free from the law of sin and death. It should be noted that the Old Testament was destroyed by the death of Christ on Calvary as in Ephesians 2:14-16 and Colossians 2:14-15 Knowing if we obey one commandment from that law we are cursed according to Gal. 3:10 and Deut. 27:26 Yet the old covenant was magnified, not destroyed, but fulfilled as in Matthew 5:17-18 although it had an expiry date, as in Luke 16:16 I hope this is clear.

Yes, we are explaining the same thing on just different ways. We both presented reasonable, cohesive viewpoints.

Also, I meant to say Talmud instead of Tanack. I get things mixed up with some of the Hebrew name.

Where have all of the real preachers gone? Preachers that preach the real WORD, the good, bad, and the ugly!

Today many preachers strive to be entertainers. They should be more concerned about being "teachers of the truth" and messengers of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ!

What happened to "humble man of God" who preached directly from the bible? Gave us more scripture, and less ear tickling!

2 Timothy 4:3

"For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;"

So many people are looking to be entertained and have their ears tickled today. Many don't want to hear the real gospel, and what is really required to achieve salvation. Many of the new contemporary Christians today, believe that God is only loving and good, and that they can live a worldly lifestyle and still receive salvation. Based on the current popular christian thinking - Hey we all get to go to heaven! DON"T BELIEVE THIS!

You can't have your worldly life, and get salvation too! Don't believe me - read the bible scripture below - Jesus is telling you.

Matthew 16:25

"For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it."

Happy Sabbath Day, and God Bless!

Rick,

I think it is important to distinguish the sinful nature from our physical nature/natiural man.

I do not believe that they are one and the same. However the sinful nature affects our physical/natural man in that it works against God's will in our physical/ natural man to cause us to sin. We put to death the sinful nature by the Spirit on us. We do not kill our bodies or blood. They have been redeemed. I do not believe that the sinful nature resides in our blood, as you said.

But, like our new spiritual nature we receive from the Spirit, it is an evil nature that resides in us from conception on. It was added to what God created in Adam when they sinned. Their sin provided Evil access to reside in our beings but it was not part of our original creation.

Salvation conquered this sinful nature in us. It was removed from us, but still tries to take hold of us again. That is why we put it to death constantly by the power of grace through the Holy Spirit.

This is an intriguing subject as I don't think we can really fully comprehend what the sinful nature is, but the Scripture is clear that it is separate from our physical/natural self (this includes our body/blood). But our natural man is fully affected by the sinful nature prior to salvation.

Rick

In Romans 7 I believe Paul is referring to the "flesh" and "carnal" he us talking about the sinful nature. And this sinful nature affects all of our being as you said.

But in Romans 7:11-12

Says "But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through. The Spirit who dwells in you.

And 1 Corinthians 6:19-20 says: "Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own? For you have been bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body and in your Spirit, which

Are God's.

So, as a believer, our whole person has been changed, redeemed and the Spirit in us allows our body, mind, and soul to be honorable and sanctified. So because our bodies are God's temple, it is now holy, as is our mind and soul. The sinful nature still wars against our whole being, but the Spirit dwells in us and empowers us to put the sinful nature to death, not our bodies.

So, in light of these Scriptures, I cannot think of my physical body, mind or soul as evil or worthless because Jesus has redeemed all of me.

In Job Chapter 1 verse 6 who are the sons of God and why did they present themselves along with Satan?

Donkor Makini,

Interesting question, this is my understanding, all the trees in the garden that they could eat from, even the Tree of Life, if they chose to eat, they were not forbidden to eat of it. God planted this tree of, knowledge of good and evil as well, and commanded Adam and Eve not to eat and if they did it meant surely die. This tree could have been any fruit, it was the breaking of God's commandment that made it forbidden.

What do we have in us that tells us good or evil? It is our conscience; it is the knowledge of good and evil the battleground of the Spirit and the flesh. When Adam and Eve ate of that tree and broke God's commandment the sin nature entered mankind and they received a conscience, or it was awakened to the knowledge to know the difference, they knew they were naked.

There are many opinions on Adam and Eve but was it by chance they would eat or not eat of this tree? Do we write it off to free will to think God did not know and was not in control? Isaiah 46:9-10. They were not the first to sin, John 8:44 and in scripture, there are two Adams, the first Adam a living soul and the last Adam a quickening spirit. There was the first man earthy, and there is the second man the Lord (Jesus) from heaven. and millions in between and millions since, all part of God's plan. 1 Corinthians 15:45-49

One purpose Jesus was manifested that He might destroy the works of the devil. 1 John 3:8 Was the first Adams purpose part of this plan we overlook, and Satan was blind to, like Jesus' crucifixion?

Just my understanding.

God bless,

RLW

Joh 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.Jesus was in Gods mind before God even created the world. Jesus also mentioned in Gen 3:15. The seed of the women. So Jesus was before Abraham.

The seed was promised to Abraham. Consider Gal 3:16 Now to Abraham and his seed were the promises made. He saith not, And to seeds, as of many; but as of one, And to thy seed, which is Christ.

Joh 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.Was this a physical Glory or one when God was well aware of what Jesus would do?

This is a matter of interpretation. This in itself does not prove your point.

Thanks

I'm under some sort of spiritual attack/warfare. I believe it's a combination of things at work here. Could be from some major doors that I opened up on my end, or it's very possible that it could be some sort of witchcraft attacks, hexes, vexes, incantations, psychic attacks, etc. I really angered some people who are on the wrong side of things with a really dark and wicked mindset. Who seem to be bent on my destruction for calling some things out for how they are/were. It's been absolutely ridiculous some of the things that's went down over the last several years. I'm hoping that it stops so I can move on with my life. All that's happened has an otherwise strong and able Christian with a desire to serve "bound" almost messed up and fighting lots of bitterness/resentment. Enemy forces are really at work here. Hoping for a breakthrough