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Should we believe God created Adam and Eve not knowing what was going to happen? Many say it was free will they had a choice. If that, do we imply God is not in control. The first Adam was a figure of him that was to come. ( Romans 5:14) A shadow indeed! There are two Adams in the Bible The first Adam was made a living soul (being) the last Adam a quickening spirit. ( 1 Corinthians 15:44-49)
"The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven". Here we have Jesus as the second man, we know He was not the second man on earth. 1John.3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Was the first Adams purpose to start humankind or the start of the plan that Jesus, the last Adam finished that Satan could not see. There is very little in the Bible about when Satan rebelled but we know by the book of Job the angels were before this world was created. ( Job 29:3-7)
I am sure some will disagree but I believe God placed the first Adam to do His will and it was part of God's plan that was before this world was. ( 1 Peter 1:19-20) All humans today are descendants of Adam due to the flood, the eight people on the ark came from Adam.
God bless,
RLW
If I may add another perspective.
James 2:10 says, "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of the whole thing."
But look what it says in Verse 11. It says "For he that said." He didn't say for the scriptures say. It says for he that says, do not commit adultery, said also, do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if you should kill, you are become a transgressor of the law.
How does that work? The law represents the holiness of God, His complete holiness. Romans 3:20 says through the law we have the knowledge of sin.
If I keep the whole law, and yet I violate one law, I have sinned, and I'm less than who God is. Well, that's a no-brainer, right?
If I think I'm pretty good and I ought to get into heaven because I do pretty good things and I'm not that bad of a person, well, how do I stack-up to God?
Am I as holy as God is? Well, I wouldn't say that. But that's what a sinner is, somebody who has fallen short of the glory of God.
And so the commandments were representative of God's holiness. So if you broke one, you're a sinner, you've broken them all, because even one sin, you have fallen short of who God is. And that is how he shows us how sinful we are and what sin is.
So the emphasis is on the person, not the law. The same person that says thou shalt not commit adultery, also said thou shalt not kill. And if you do one of those things, then you have violated the one who gave the law.
When we sin, we have sinned against the law giver and that's what makes us guilty of all, no matter how big or small we in our human minds might view sin!
Thank you for your reply. Reading the content of your post, honestly I'm not convinced of your theory because in
Revelation 11, the two candlesticks (for me two Churches) standing before the God of the earth, as being two
witnesses, they both will receive Power or be enpowered to shut heaven (to close the Dispensation of Grace or to finish
it), that it rain not in the days (1.260 days) of their prophecy. And both have Power over waters (over peoples, and
nations, and multitudes of all tongues - Gentile peoples) to turn them to blood; And to smite the earth (earth here can
only be the place or nation of the birth of the Beast of earth who has two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a Dragon-
Revelation 13:v.11-18- a false lamb of course, with two horns) , yeah, to smite the earth with all plagues, as often as
they will.
I see in advance that there will be two Beasts on the Earth in near future, they are:
1 - the Man Beast of sea, with his headquarter in Europe-Rome;
2 - the Man Beast of the earth, an esoteric, and kabbalistic, and spiritist Beast, who will oppose and exalt himself above
all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God will sit in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is
God.
That said I would ask: Would not be this ruthless Man Beast of the earth the same Character that is mentioned in
Rev.11:v.4 that says "the two candlesticks standing before the God of the earth" whose Country must be smite with all
plagues in the last week, the week 70th of Daniel 9:v.27?
And the Nation of Israel which our government just abandoned to the wolves.
When we see Israel surrounded by her Palestinian Enemies, Russia, China. Keep your eye on Iran, the UN.
When they all decide to begin firing upon Israel, legislating Israel into a corner, forcibly trying to take land that God deeded to them (in Genesis), by an unbreakable Covenant:
That time is now. Watch the news. If you missed it, look at news on YouTube. Don't be an ostrich. Avoiding reality has dire consequences.
Seriously, Israel is about 7 miles WIDE. Why is an entire planet after that one piece of real estate? Many of us drive 7 miles to get to a Walmart or Costco store.
When we foolishly decided to toss Donald Trump out,
And elect criminals to run this nation (who are partners with the aforementioned nations), I hope everyone got their cheap little thrill over it. Trump BLESSED Israel. We profited off of it. Now our economy is in the can, nobody is working. Biden is going to give those jobs to all those immigrating here, or sneaking over the fences. All of those curses in Leviticus 26, and Deuteronomy 28; will be on our evening news every day now.
The good news is, all those crooked politicians will still be on this earth trying to cope AFTER Jesus rescues His Church.
College graduates need to do a course on the FOUR HORSEMEN of the Apocalypse now. Death, is over Pestilence, pandemics, locusts, flu, etc.
Why not skip it and realize with some degree of comprehension, that our rejection of God and his Son, Jesus Christ, is true. Romans 1 says, WE are WITHOUT EXCUSE.
Visit that Become A Christian link, on this Website. Be Honest.
If the signs Jesus spoke of DON'T convince us, you are without hope.
CHOOSE LIFE. DONT TAKE THE MARK.
M.
Romans 8:20 For the creature was made (CREATED) subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY, but by reason of HIM who hath subjected the same in HOPE.
God wants Sons and Daughters that are like HIM. He gives us and EXPERIENCE of natural life so we will KNOW GOOD AND EVIL.
Adam and Eve's sin wasn't eating a natural fruit (the tree of THE KNOWLEDGE of good and evil is within us, it's not a natural tree), we were created with a evil heart. With just a little enticement from this heart; that wasn't born of the Spirit, Eve LUSTED.
God TEST every man to bring him to TRUTH. Without ME YOU CAN DO NOTHING. I am your life.
The POWER and LIFE of the Father which lives in the SON was given to him by the Father. The Father then sent HIS SON to recreate all his sons and daughters into THE IMAGE OF GOD. Christ DESTROYS our EVIL heart by TRUTH and MERCY and gives us his HEART(SPIRIT). Everything given to him by the Father HE GIVES TO US.
Man CANNOT BELIEVE this UNTIL:
Philippians 1:29 For unto YOU IT IS GIVEN in the behalf of Christ, not only TO BELIEVE ON HIM, but to suffer for his sake
James 4:3 You ask, and receive not, because you ask amiss, that you might consume it upon you lusts.
Few ask GOD TO CAUSE THEM TO BELIEVE HIS WORDS.
Few ask to be GIVEN HIS FAITH.
Without HIM we CAN DO NOTHING.
God made them in His image and likeness. He gave them free will to make choices.
At that time they were spiritually alive, with soul and flesh. Eve could've obeyed God and Not eat the fruit, but she did anyway (her choice). She gave it to Adam (his choice).
God had set time in motion when He said, IN BEGINNING. By Genesis 3:15, Adam had lost his mandate by then. That verse shows the mandate had passed onto Jesus at a future time.
Time and Genealogy had to tick along until Jesus came to earth and was born.
As 2nd Adam, Jesus fulfilled the mandate on the Cross by dying for the sins of all mankind. He crushed Satan's head (power).
Satan was a Created Angel; and he has an evil will. He craved Gods glory and still thinks he can win by destroying everything and everyone God loves.
We still have Free Will. We can choose to follow God and his Son Jesus; or follow Satan; or wander off till we die and must await the Great White Throne Judgment that God will officiate. Everyone at that judgement will understand that they chose (free will) hell, by not choosing anything at all.
Romans 1, says that we are without excuse by not perceiving the reality of God. We didn't choose God. We made up excuses. Our choices determine our eternal location:
Heaven or Hell.
Nowadays, everyone screams for CHOICES. Well God gave us that right. We can choose everything EXCEPT God and find our conscious souls, eternally locked up with an insane creature that Hates God and people who chose nothing and ended locked up with Satan. No paradise, no Abrahams Bosom, just eternal suffering.
Time is almost up. Matthew 24 is coming to life. We see the signs everywhere. Pestilence means Pandemic, in 2021. Memorize those SIGNS.
There's a link out on the red link page, that says, Become A Christian.
Time is ticking down to zero. Act on your choice.
Mishael
I believe a way to put us are WE covered by the blood of Christ as the children of Israel was covered by the Lambs blood on the door post in Egypt. WE CAN'T COME INTO THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD IN THIS FALLEN STATE WE'RE IN. ( A Sinner).
There may be different sin that brings different results, like fornication ( sin against the body) ect. but all sinners that don't come to Christ will suffer the same fate.
A unbeliever is already dead under the penalty of sin, Christ came to pay the ransom and take that charge off us by way of the cross.
NOTICE THE SINGLE PENALTY AND CHARGE THAT IS MENTIONED BELOW.
Romans 5:11-12. And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Wherefore, as by ONE MAN SIN ENTERED into the world, AND DEATH BY SIN; ( and so death passed upon all men, ) for that all have sinned:
John 1:29. The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the "SIN" of the world.
NOW CONTINUING TO REJECT TRUTH OR REBEL AGAINST TRUTH OR CORRECTION BY MEANS OF THE LIGHT OF SCRIPTURE CAN BE DANGEROUS.
I think God Judge the heart of every individual and his tolerance may vary but he will not pardon the guilty.
Here's a couple of examples in regards to a few countries.
Matthew 11:21-24. Woe unto thee, Chorazin! woe unto thee, Bethsaida! for if the mighty works, which were done in you, had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago in sackcloth and ashes.
But I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the day of judgment, than for you.
And thou, Capernaum, which art exalted unto heaven, shalt be brought down to hell: for if the mighty works, which have been done in thee, had been done in Sodom, it would have remained until this day.
But I say unto you, That it shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom in the day of judgment, than for thee.
ALL SIN IS DEALT WITH BY CHRIST OR YOU.
GOD BLESS.
Remember the Bible is a collection of books and was not yet organized which books considered canon into the King James book and which books left out
Man WANT BELIEVE what GOD says UNTIL God causes them to BELIEVE. ALL is of God.
There is nowhere in scripture that says if a name is there it's not a parable.
There is more than one scripture that says that Christ spake not to the people BUT IN PARABLES.
Matthew 13:34 All these things spake Jesus unto the multitudes in parables; and WITHOUT a parable SPAKE HE NOT unto him.
Mark 4:11 And he said unto them, unto you it is GIVEN to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, it is not GIVEN.
You said not everyone will choose to be saved.
The fact is no one chooses to be saved.
God SAYS I CHOOSE YOU , you don't choose me.
If I be lifted up I WILL DRAW ALL MEN to me.
Man thinks he is a co-partner in his salvation, when in fact every part of man's salvation IS OF GOD.
Isaiah 57:15 For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high and Holy place, with him ALSO that is of a contrite and humble spirit, to revive the spirit of the humble, and to revive the spirit of the contrite ones.
Thanks be to Christ for HIS WORKS!
Baptism is the first act of obedience of the believer. Remember the thief on the cross did not get baptized. Nonetheless, Jesus told him he would be in paradise.
are considered to be equal in severity.
Committing sin against just one of the commandments, makes us guilty for ALL of them.
We think this is big sin and those others are not all that bad, like telling lies.
God doesn't think that way. He is Holy. He gave us the rules and expects us to comply.
God knows we're going to miss the mark. "For God so loved the World, He gave His only begotten Son.."
He made a way for us to be forgiven. Wipe the slate clean with the blood sacrifice Jesus. It was no small thing Jesus did on the Cross.
I watched that movie, the Passion of the Christ, with my hands over my face. The sounds alone are horrific.
Here is my question, We believed GOD is all knowing with infinite knowledge. Did GOD know already that our first parents will committed disobedience to GOD before HE tested them? If GOD know from the beginning that EVE and ADAM will fall into the temptation of Satan, why GOD still want to test them? Why GOD did not STOP to test them, even though GOD know already that our first parents will be fall into sin?