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Genesis 4:2. I don't think it shows they came to the age of accountability at the same time, I believe Cain was offering the fruit of the ground before Abel reached the age of accountability.
The fruit of a cursed ground instead of a blood sacrifice. The issue was that God didn't require that of Cain.
When Abel came along he did what was required.
Let's say satan impregnated Eve, don't you think satan would have chastised Jesus for eternity for being born of the devil? We would have heard much more about it, but we don't. Jesus would not have been able to overcome the grave without being of God.
That's not all 2 Peter 3:8 says, watch closely, let's pick up around vs 3 thru vs 9. and get the context.
2 Peter 3:3-4, 8-9 (KJV) Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation...5.....6......
8: But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord "AS" a thousand years, AND A THOUSAND YEARS "AS" ONE DAY...
Now if the first part of vs 8 makes a day an 1000 years, "very long" Then the other half of vs 8 makes a 1000 years an DAY! "very short" so calculating time using this vs would make a day fractions of a second!!
The setting here is God stands outside of time looking in.
The emphasis is on God's patience, not the length of a day.
Look below at verse 9
9: The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is LONGSUFFERING to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. I Hope that helps
Adam bit the apple too, yet he didn't know the serpent (a spirit). It is sin that beguiles us, and satan is the father of them. satan was just making his rounds in the garden to stem the evil tide. One solid characteristic about satan is he can't create anything, he can't breathe life into anything, he can't even produce evil unless the letter lets (God).
2 Thessalonians 2:7 "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way."
satan (spirit) has dominion over the flesh, not our DNA.
Go ahead and tell us your thoughts here. I can't extract specific answers from the text.
Maybe you can explain the dichotomy of the devil who shows up in the garden, Genesis 3, from the "morning star" that weakened the nations, Isaiah 14:12-15 and aspired to rise to heaven, from the one kicked out of heaven, Revelation 12:7-9.
I need semblance to draw a rational conclusion on what's happening with satan's tenure. Is this the nature of inequity, allowing the spirit of satan to continually spoil life?
Jesus calls the devil "the God of this world", 2 Corinthians 4:4. Does the devil's spirit reside on earth where he works his loom, or does he do so from heaven, or both? Has he already been kicked out of heaven, and Rev 12:7-9 is purely symbolic?
Today we face the same problems Adam and Eve faced in the garden, nothing has changed. I have a feeling you can shed light on this.
God is spirit. The Holy Spirit is spirit. Jesus had not been born of woman yet. (Pre-incarnate)
His name is The WORD.
John 1:1-5, 2 Timothy 3:16
Hope this helps.
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In the New Testament, we find the story of Lazarus and the rich man who both died and went to Hades ( Luke 16:19-31). The KJV translates the Greek word "hades" as hell but most other translations use the Greek word. HADES had two separated parts: Those who died in faith believing in God's promise waited for the resurrection in Abraham's Bosom. Those who died spiritually separated from God wait in torment for the resurrection unto death, eternal separation from God. The rich man was on the torment side and Lazarus was in ABRAHAMS BOSOM which was called "PARADISE" by the LORD Jesus Christ himself when He addressed the thief who found faith the day Jesus was crucified ( Luke 23:42-43)
For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment" ( 2 Peter 2:4). The word translated "HELL" here is not the Greek word "HADES" but is the Greek word "TARTARUS" meaning ABYSS or the lowest regions. This could very well be the "gulf" that was fixed between the PLACE OF TORMENT and Abraham's Bosom ( Luke 16:26).
Wherefore He saith, When He ascended up on high, He led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men. (Now that He ascended, what is it but that He also descended first into the lower parts of the earth? He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that He might fulfill all things" ( Ephesians 4:8-10). Leading captivity captive seems to refer to Jesus taking all those that waited in Paradise to heaven to be with Him. The descending into the "lower parts"refers to Jesus mission of declaring Victory!
Genesis 1:26, 3:22, 11:7
Isaiah 6:8
Romans 1:20
Colossians 2:9
Acts 17:27-30
1 John 5:7
John 10:30
These are scriptures of when the 3 persons of the Godhead were speaking to each other.
I was taught that Adams name means, Man. Eve's name means, Man with a womb.
Adam and Eve were of flesh, soul and spirit up until they ate of tree. Then the spiritual connection was severed.
By being Born Again, Jesus restores that spiritual connection through the Holy Spirit who indwells us.
Gen. 1:27 - So God created man in His own image...
6th day Man - (Hb.) adam (no article) = mankind
'eth-Ha' adam (WITH article) is the Adam, and then Eve, who God created on the 8th day, in which Christ, bellybutton to bellybutton comes from.
Also remember that 1 day of our Father is equal to 1,000 years for us (man). 2 Peter 3:8
Right now, over the area of the Euphrates, in the area that we know as Iraq, the area where the Garden of Eden was before the flood, these angels are bound.
There are four angels, and notice that they are put there by God, prepared for the very day, month, year, and the very hour when God summons them to slay or kill a third part of men.
Robert on Mark 10
What will happen to those that lived and died before Christ's sacrifice? What will they do when they stand before God? How will they be saved, or will they? I'm sorry if I'm asking irrelevant questions, but I really would like to know the answer if anyone has one.
It is my belief that when Jesus was in the tomb, He went back in time and gave those people a chance to choose at that time.
What does that mean that He breathed in?
Some point out the fact that the word for breathe is found in two places in the Old Testament, one is in Genesis 2:7, where the Lord literally breathed into the face of Adam and he became a living soul.
And then in Ezekiel 37:9, where he tells Ezekiel to go out and prophecy, and the wind comes and blows on the dead bones and they become alive.
But the difference between this instance and the two places I just mentioned is that in the Septuagint, in Genesis 2:7 and Ezekiel 37:9 it has what is called the preposition EIS with the accusative.
God breathed into Adam. The wind and breath of God breathed into the dead bones. There is no prepositional phrase here in John 20:22. It is just the word breathed in.
What is interesting is that it does not say that they received the Holy Spirit.
This text is where some get the "two experiences" where here they were saved, and in Acts Chapter 2, the baptism of the Holy Spirit is a "second experience" that every Christian needs.
The problem here is that Jesus gave them the command, receive the Holy Ghost. It doesn't say they received Him!
I guess my answer to your question would be that when Jesus said this, He breathed in, like to expand His chest, and He says unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:
I hope this was not a private conversation. If so, please accept my apology.
Beguiled - nasha (Hb), naw-shaw - a prime. root; to lead astray, i.e. (mentally) to delude, or (morally) to seduce:-beguile, deceive, x greatly, x utterly.
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible
Gen. 4:1
Again - yacaph (Hb), yaw-saf - a prime. root; to add or augment (often adv. to continue to do a thing)
Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible
I see you have looked again but you are still missing the point. What you have posted started from verse 4, but to really get the full essence of the script, is to start from verse one and especially vs. 2 where it says, "and on the seventh day God ended HIS work." Then below, the Bible describes the process of creation including mankind.
So after the seventh day was expired, this is now the 8th day when the serpent was introduced and started its work of teaching the opposite of good. I'm asking you again as I asked you in the first post, where was God when this was taking place? Could Adam and Eve see God? It's very important to me if you will answer these 2 questions before we continue so I can evaluate who I'm posting to.
Remember SKIP, we are just learning together.
AGAIN, in the Hebrew manuscripts is YACAPH, yaw-saf - this means to continue, proceed, etc.
Also, it is evident that Cain and Abel came to the age of accountability at the same time, both bringing their offerings to the Lord.
John 21:14-17
14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.
15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord, thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon Peter, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he saith unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things, thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him. Feed my sheep.
Gen. 3:15, "I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between THY SEED and HER SEED....."
Gen. 3:16, "I (GOD speaking to Eve) will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception..."
Adam didn't "know" his wife until Gen. ch.4.
Good for you, reading carefully and asking questions.
Sometimes a great number of people pay dearly for the sin of one or a few. Look what happened when Achan sinned at Jericho and several thousand died at Ai because of Achan.
Keep in mind, this time is under the Old Covenant and we are under the New Covenant. Most of the Old Testament was written TO the people of Israel. However it was written FOR us.
"Now all these things happened unto them for ensamples: and they are written for our admonition, upon whom the ends of the world are come." 1Co 10:11
Yes, the history of Israel is a cycle repeated many times over:
Israel serves The LORD,
Israel falls into sin and idolatry,
Israel is enslaved,
Israel cries out to The LORD,
God raises up a deliverer,
Israel is delivered.
Look for it as you read.
"These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground." Gen 2:4-5
If there were just 3 days, why would the text state, "and there was not a man to till the ground." Sometimes its weeks before I get out into my garden to till the ground. Why would it be of significance if no one was there for 3 days?
Furthermore, after observing and naming the animals, that includes observing that all the animals had mates, male and female and observing what the mating process resulted in, it was then that Adam realized that there had not been a mate in all of creation for him. It was after this process that God fashions Eve from Adam's rib. And Adam's response was, "This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man," where "is now" is has the sense of "now, finally, at last" after all this time observing and naming the animals, I have found a mate. God said "IT IS NOT GOOD FOR THE MAN TO BE ALONE," because it was a significant period of time that he had been alone!
I agree that God planned the whole thing before the foundation of the world. He had cast out Lucifer, and those who agreed with him, to earth and then put man right in Lucifer's crosshairs. The Godhead had already planned redemption for Adam and his race.
Signs of a Gracious Loving God, to redeem enemies of God. That answers the original question.
I found a scientific solution, you will laugh, but it works: If I gently tap, with my left hand fingers (slap), the top front, left side of my head, a 2" wide x 3" back section from hairline, and lightly tap my head 10 times, the vibration of my skull manipulates the brain waves, freeing me of the thought. The taps stimulate analytical left brain, shutting down right brain creativity. I'll be giving a presentation at the Cleveland Clinic next week.....Ah haha. Don't knock yourself out.
It's very tedious, but read through all 3 ( underline or take notes); one after another.
You'll see where more information to a certain event, adds more information from the other books.
Bibles that have a reference column in the CENTER of each page: you'll see tiny alphabet letters to match it to a center column reference to another passage in the Bible. Those help explain events.
I find that the King James Bibles are most likely to have that kind of referencing system.
The Book of Genesis sort of goes forward and jumps backward. Use of the reference Bibles helps to keep you straight. I don't ask the Lord why that is. I just pay attention more to where it's going. I love mysteries! This keeps me on my toes.