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Darren yes ! I have often wondered about what all the other hundreds of thousand and millions of people have thought ,people who lived a long time before this scientific world we now live in ,how would they have understood Zecharia ch 14 ? Especially v 12 ? Or Revelation ch 11 v 18 'them which destroy the earth ' these verses in particular must have been terrifying but we live in the age where these things are totally clear to us ,we are in the last days im sure ,i try not to get too excited as i know it could be a few years yet but i realllly want it to be very soon !

Hi everyone ,im wondering if other Christians have similar feelings to me ,most of my friends and family are atheists ,they know im not ,ive tried over the years to bring God into conversation but no one is interested ,the problem i have is that i care very much about these people and my greatest wish is for them to know what i know but they dont want it and as time goes on some of them are getting quite old and actually dying,this gets me down a bit ,i want them all to live as long as possible so that they are still alive when Christ returns and hopefully they will very quickly realise whos has been loving them and who will continue to love them and they will follow Him ,anyone have similar thoughts ? feelings ? When some one i love dies without knowing Christ its much more painfull than when a commited Christian dies ,i thhink so any way .

Darren ,aaaaahaha ! Im the 'strong' one too ! My strength really only does come from God ,everyone thinks im so cool and calm and unflapable ,inside im a kitten ,totally useless without Gods help ,i live among atheists who often have lent on me but who dont realise that they are not really leaning on me but on God because He is the one keeping me on my feet !

What is "blasphemy against the Holy Spirit"?

He rose on the third day which was the first day of the week, Sunday.

The day of His crucifixion has been debated between Wednesday and Friday before He rose on Sunday.

The populations were evil in all their ways--except for Lot, his wife, and their two daughters. God did not want that evil to influence His people, so He destroyed both cities with fire and brimstone.

Dear Lord Jesus, I lift this person up to you for comfort and success of the anxiety medication.

Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, before the high sabbath

Jesus died Wednesday at sundown and was removed from the cross because of the high sabbath

Jesus was resurrected Saturday at sundown beginning the weekly sabbath.

From Wednesday at sundown to Thursday at sundown = 1 day

From Thursday at sundown to Friday at sundown = 2 days

From Friday at sundown to Saturday at sundown = 3 days

payers for my son and his wife/drinking alcohol-my son is a third generation of drinking/prayers for this curse

to stop now -amen, my daughter-in-law has had seizures since her childhood-in the name of Jesus whom is the Healer

asking prayers for me and mine and you and yours-God Bless

Requesting prayer for myself, my family and friends. Deliverance from addictions and all sin and salvation to all who are lost and have back slidden. And all to walk with God. Healing for all who are sick. Salvation and deliverance for all in Jesus name Amen.

Who were the three men who walked with God?

Oh, Hold up now. "a amilleniast" How did you stray from the Word? You don't believe Jesus Christ in the flesh will reign in person for 1,000 years, but return after the church age? You better not let this get out, or it could spell trouble. Better board up your windows before the hard core Christians try and find out if you float. As for me, I'll be seeing you and all the rest that die in Christ, like John said.

Amillenarism or Amillennialism is a type of chillegorism which teaches that there will be no millennial reign of the righteous on earth. Amillennarists interpret the thousand years symbolically to refer either to a temporary bliss of souls in heaven before the general resurrection, or to the infinite bliss of the righteous after the general resurrection.[1]

This view in Christian eschatology does not hold that Jesus Christ will physically reign on the earth for exactly 1,000 years. This view contrasts with some postmillennial interpretations and with premillennial interpretations of chapter 20 of the Book of Revelation.

The amillennial view regards the "thousand years" mentioned in Revelation 20 as a symbolic number, not as a literal description; amillennialists hold that the millennium has already begun and is identical with the current church age. Amillennialism holds that while Christ's reign during the millennium is spiritual in nature, at the end of the church age, Christ will return in final judgment and establish a permanent reign in the new heaven and new earth.

Many proponents dislike the term "amillennialism" because it emphasizes their differences with premillennialism rather than their beliefs about the millennium. "Amillennial" was actually coined in a pejorative way by those who hold premillennial views. Some proponents also prefer alternate names such as nunc-millennialism (that is, now-millennialism) or realized millennialism, although these other names have achieved only limited acceptance and usage.[2]

Ezekiel 21:12 Cry and howl, son of man: for it shall be upon my people, it shall be upon all the princes of Israel: terrors by reason of the sword shall be upon my people: smite therefore upon thy thigh.

It is upon MY people. 'Thy thigh' is a reference to Jacob's time of trouble and,

Isaiah 24:15-17 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea. From the uttermost part of the earth have we heard songs, even glory to the righteous. But I said, My leanness, my leanness, woe unto me! the treacherous dealers have dealt treacherously; yea, the treacherous dealers have dealt very treacherously. Fear, and the pit, and the snare, are upon thee, O inhabitant of the earth.

You believe in Christ's 1,000 year reign on earth. That is at the 7th trumpet, at the moment the 144,000 rise. That's what I believe.

What do millennial's believe that's different from above?

Yvonne,

You'll need to do some reading and meditating on these parallel Scriptures:

Mat 24:1-25:46

Mar 13:1-37

Luk 21:5-36

Never Read A Bible Verse!

Always, always, always read the verses BEFORE and AFTER.

Read parallel passages.

Context is king!

LC,

"did Jesus become God at ascension, baptism, incarnation or before the foundations of the world?"

The answer is, NONE of your options are correct.

Jesus never "became" God.

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God."Joh 1:1-2

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."Joh 1:14

The Word was with God and The Word was God. And The Word was made flesh (Jesus)"

Jesus was God from eternity past, existing in Loving relationship with The Father and The Spirit as The Son, in One Divine Being that Christians refer to as The Trinity.

LC,

"Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come." Mat 12:31-32

Jesus said this to religious leaders who SAW and HEARD Him. They SAW the Works of The Holy Spirit at Jesus' hands, yet rejected Him thus blaspheming The Holy Spirit. Unforgivable!

"so someone decided to take this out"

The text must be IN something before it can be taken OUT of that something.

The Scriptures, writings that the Jewish scribes and priests recognized as sacred, were the 39 books that Christians today refer to as The Old Testament.

The last book was Malachi, written around 400BC. After the prophet Malachi, there were no more prophets saying, "Thus saith The LORD!"

From 400 BC on God appeared to be silent. Some of the books written in this period between the Old Testament and New Testament were referred to as the Apocrypha. The Apocrypha were not considered part of the Jewish canon nor did the apostles and early church fathers consider them to be God-breathed Scripture. It wasn't until the 1500s that the Roman Catholic church declared them part of the canon as a reaction to The Protestant Reformation. St Jerome reluctantly included The Apocrypha in The Latin Vulgate translation and some King James Bibles also include The Apocrypha, despite their not being canonical.

Bottom line: This story was never taken OUT of The Bible because it never was IN The Bible.

Stewart,

"And shall deliver him to the Gentiles to mock, and to scourge, and to crucify him: and THE THIRD DAY he shall rise again." Mat 20:19

"For he taught his disciples, and said unto them, The Son of man is delivered into the hands of men, and they shall kill him; and after that he is killed, he shall rise THE THIRD DAY."Mar 9:31

"And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead THE THIRD DAY:" Luk 24:46

"Him God raised up THE THIRD DAY, and shewed him openly;" Act 10:40

"And that he was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to the scriptures:" 1Co 15:4

Friday was the first day, Saturday, the second, Sunday the third.

I love reading thanks!!!!!

Ron,

I agree when satan's kicked out of heaven and that initiates the 6th trumpet, 2nd woe, day of the Lord. For reference, here are a few describing the same event from different angles: Isaiah 13, Isaiah 21:1-9, Isaiah 24, Isaiah 47, Ezekiel 21:1-24, Ezekiel 38:1-17, Joel 2:1-11, 2 Thessalonians 2:3, Revelation 18. This battle is over in an hour.

Daniel 9:27 I see what you are saying about the language, the dualism. At this point, I need to examine other evidence surrounding this verse, compared to other scriptures to better pin point what is going on.

Right off the bat, it is well known that the day of the Lord sees Jesus coming like a thief with His northern army to lay the land desolate. God states that anti-Christ's army is His army, Joel 2: 10-11

Seeing then that I will cut off from thee the righteous and the wicked, therefore shall my sword go forth out of his sheath against all flesh from the south to the north: Ezekiel 21:1-7 "MY sword will go out of HIS sheath".

Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Isaiah 13: 6 This characteristic of the strike is synonymous with the man of sin, spoiler at noonday, anti-Christs.



God furbishes a sword and places it in the slayers (anti-Christ's) hand, Ezekiel 21:9-12 Russia has God-like weaponry, God has blessed Russia's scientists. Howl ye; for the day of the LORD is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty, Ezekiel 21:12

The 70 weeks is a classic Bible mystery. I will study it again. The way I explained it to you makes sense to me considering the 6th trumpet lasts 42 months. I have no strong convictions towards it, and would evolve my mind if I was presented a sound concept. As it stands, it is a side bar to my love of the Lord and His prophets.

I will be around to reprove.

I am a amilleniast. Meaning perhaps for you, so you can understand me, no literal millennial counting is necessary.

:)

Paula Price, I've heard that music, whether or not in church, can suppress repentance. It can also suppress a guilty conscience, which is why King Saul ordered David to play music. It says when David played, the evil spirit from God (aka, guilty conscience) would leave him. It might even suppress other manifestations of the Holy Spirit.

Does Elijah mean nothing to you?

Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD:

And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. Malachi 4:5-6

Wow, the OT really lays it on thick about Jesus causing a disturbance: great and dreadful. Imagine how disappointed all the pre-great tribers will be when they're not raptured.

Jesus said, "Be ready

For you know not the hour in which I come"

He said, "He who is not for me is against me"

Just so you know where He's coming from

B. Dylan

please pray for me I am going to try anxiety medication. Please pray that I don't have a bad reaction to it pray that it will be the right one for me.

Why did god destroy sodom and gomorrah

Thanks DrBob. That really clarified it.

How many days did it from Jesus' death to his resurrection? Friday-Sunday?

I am happy that I can rest that all that remains is Jesus's harvest. I love His reign in His saints while time remains.

:)

Your psychic day job is wanting -smiley face- I am the strong one in the family, yo alpha. The cognitive dissonance propels me to appreciate our individual complexities. Not often treated to someone allowing themselves beyond the mantra. That makes me happy, not sad. Rebuttal on events that have or haven't happened, from popular "settled" prophesies, limits growth. Prophesy is settled when fulfilled. Wouldn't it be a huge wakeup if Tehran gets Rev 6:14 in the next few years. The good buys US & Israel can't resist.