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This way you can hear an opinion and a counter argument side by side, if you're interested.
One of the topics they discussed had to do with entropy and the second law of thermodynamics with respect to death before The Fall or not.
Nothing there to change my mind. Having been a staunch YEC for decades, I have, fairly recently (within the past 30 years, for a 79 year old), adopted OEC. I can debate this with a YEC, but I'd rather discuss topics that are more substantive.
I just wanted to point out that OEC does not automatically equate to evolutionist.
When Judah was held captive 70 years in Babylon, their elders learned Gematria. How to control large swaths of people everyday, using a numerical code. Gematria is the practice of coding numbers on to words, it is part of Kabbalah. Like word values have similar meanings, relationships. The grouping of numbers is abundant. English, the new world order language that was designed to fit the code. There is a why reason four and forty are spelled differently. Jesus Christ was put to death by this code, and the Lord knew it. The Knights Templar captured Gematria during the crusades from the Arabs, and brought it back to England. Nothing in America is done without the code, and once you learn it, you will understand. Govt, Media, Sports, Hollywood use the code to trick you. Everything is rigged years and decades in advance, so you never stood a chance. You worry about all the school shootings, when they are staged, by the numbers and presented to you on a silver platter. But for the ones that know what's going on, we are not fooled. We grow tired of explaining to a brainwashed world that they've been fooled, cause it's easier to fool you than convince you that you've been fooled. There is a master decoder on YouTube, named Zachary K. Hubbard. He is the only one to ever break the code, and yes, it puts his life in danger to expose the hoax so scientifically.
Here's an example: A=1,B=2,C=3,...Z=26 so ABC = 6 (English Ordinal).
Gematria numerical values EO SAT RO RS ALW KFW ES RES
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin =313 389 1223 1299 357 373 1878 2334
Six hundred three score and six =313 389 1223 1299 357 373 1878 2334
Putin and 666 matches in 8 ciphers
He's the #1 candidate to destroy America, invade Israel at the 6th trumpet, fulfilling the abomination of desolation.
This is one of many reasons to believe Russia is the beast.
Studying on the seed and the promise
Ezekiel prophesied 430 days or years against Jerusalem. Jerusalem fell in 587BC and was never occupied again as a free nation until June 7, 1967.
The difference is 6963 days, very close to the difference between 606 & 587BC!
Taking Ezekiel's 430 days of years and subtracting the 70 served in Babylon, leaves 360 years. Because of their stubbornness (actually 4 times in Lev 26:18, 21, 23-24, 27-28) their punishment is 7 times as much. At 360 days per prophetic year:
360 years x 7 x 360 days per year = 907,200 days.
Using the keisan cassio calculator:
subtracting 907,200 days from May 14, 1948 = July 21, 537BC.
subtract 70 prophetic years, 25,200 days = July 24, 606BC, when the captivity began.
"And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?" Luk 21:7
"And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled." Luk 21:24
"And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees; When they now shoot forth, ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand. So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." Luk 21:29-32
Pretty soon, I'd say.
who rejoice in doing evil and delight in the perverseness of evil, ESV
They take pleasure in doing wrong, and they enjoy the twisted ways of evil. NLT
So clearly written that I don't understand why some people bow down to the cross and worship Jesus?
I worship God my Heavenly Father and have been judged by man as delusional and blasphemous to declare that i am not a Christian or following Christian traditions. But I find myself seeking truth and this is what I find
For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ
Does anyone know where this is written?
This maybe was the most amazing event I ever witnessed in my almost 30 years of being a born again Christian. My friend (a male) who I still hear from every year or so was Jewish but not really practicing what he had been taught. We were on a similar path until that day. Time remains. :)
God Bless the work in Jesus Christ and God Bless those who live in Him and share His peace!
Stay the course Jesse.
Carleton
You have to forgive me for this, but sometimes I read things too fast and see words that are not there. When I was reading what you said, I thought I read that you were sitting next to a friend at an NYC Brewery. I thought what in the world is he doing at a brewery? Anyways, that's not what you said!
What an awesome testimony of the power of God's Word. His word is very powerful. Everyone has some sort of response to it. We either are drawn to it, or we want to get away from it. But there will always be a response. I pray for your friend that the seed which has been sown will take root in his/her heart and that he/she might see their need for Christ, and surrender their life to Him!
Prayer: I pray that the overpowering roar of rushing winds fall upon our churches, our homes, and every place God's children dwell. I have a strong desire that all women and men of God be baptized again with a rushing wind and fire to declare the works of the Lord so that thousands upon thousands will be saved in 2021.
Lord destroy the devour, neutralize the power and works of the enemy. Cause your people to be baptized by the same power during the day of Pentecost to be a blessing upon the unsaved. Cause your people to become extremely distinguished in all the earth during this season of our lives. So everyone knee will bow and every tough will confess You JESUS the CHRIST SON of the Living God is LORE and you reign Now and forever. AMEN
This being another subject in this thread. About how some seem to think the epistles of Paul are of some greater value or more special than any of the other books in the Holy Bible.
The writings, epistles, of Paul are important and unique. Though there are many people that pick and choose verses to try and fit their own narrative or belief. Also done with other Scriptures as stated by Peter.
I just want to quote two statements from the second epistle of Peter. Which someone had bad mouthed and called them some dirty name like they are not prophecy from God.
2 Peter 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
Then Peter prophesying about people taking Paul's writings and twisting them. Which is happening before our eyes today.
2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest(twist), as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
God Bless.
As I have posted a couple times in this thread. I apologize again as the comment I made to you was because I thought you pertained to me when you stated "Richard" in a reply. It seems it was the other Richard.
Following the posts being made in this thread it seems you and I have the same interpretation of these things in the Holy Bible.
Replying to some that may think it's all up to them which path to take. Which is true to a certain point. We have been blessed with free will and choice. It seems to be that some may not keep in mind that God knows everything past, present, and future. He knew the end before the beginning. He knows exactly who His chosen ones are as you stated. As Jesus stated "I know my sheep, they know me and follow me"(paraphrasing).
One other thing is how many times the Lord made parables about the saved and unsaved. So unless they do not agree with the teachings of Jesus in the four Gospels one might say "everyone is saved". Like I stated in another post it is a nice and loving thought but this is not what is taught in the Holy Bible. As I know of six different parables, teachings, from Christ that differentiate there will be the saved and unsaved. And weather any one person knows it or not yet they have been chosen before we took our first breadth.
God Bless you brother.
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His son, Herod Agrippa the 2nd will be the one that Paul will stand in front of later on in the book of Acts.
Verses 7 and 8 of Romans Chapter 5 is showing contrast. Verse 7 says: For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
Humanly speaking, would you die for me? You might say to me "You got to be kidding! Me die for you?" Or you might say "Sure I will. Just don't take me up on it!" Maybe someone would for a good person, a benefactor.
But look at the contrast in Verse 8. It says But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Can you imagine that?
Christ died for me, not while I was "getting my act together" or trying to be a "good person." He died while I was in a condition of being a sinner and His enemy!
Who dies for their enemies?
:)