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Does anyone know where the Pretrib Rapture is in the Bible ?

I can not find it , I only find the 1st resurrection and the coming of Christ our hope on the last day . As Jesus said .

I was taught it and believed it until I read the Bible for myself ! And low and behold it's not there in word or event , unless you can twist scriptures out of context , but then we could have 300 denominations if that was done .

I was right about you the first time Rich , spare your words and try repentance some time !

I'm sorry Rob, but this statement seems backwards. So if I spoke a word to you, you would say the word was there before I was?? God Almighty, the Father, is the Most High. Jesus Christ is the first beloved Son of God. They are a part of each other.

So now you're calling people who believe that Jesus Christ existed before He was born on earth a "cult"? Seriously, maybe just ease up and wait to ask Jesus Christ yourself? Come on brother.

James 2 v 19

Thou believest that there is one God ; thou does well : the devils also believe, and tremble .

20 But will thou know O vain man .......

So the devils know the truth about God more than the trintarians , scary thought .

I think I may write a book on the Trintarian heresy .

It's beginning and the multitudes of people that lost their lives and the so many people deceived by it .

I have no sympathy for it .

When you look at how moronic it is under the Holy Spirits teaching , it just shows how much the devil can blind the minds of men .

Yvonne, if you type in Kingdom of God in the Search the Bible box at the top left, you will find all their occurrences in the Bible & particularly in Matthew's Gospel.

Cathy (& Karcelia) you're both so right. When the foundation is weak & not in prepared soil, the building will crack & collapse.

Most without the love of God in their hearts, have as their foundation the welfare & happiness of the mother rather than the embryo or unborn child. Why? The embryo is only that, an embryo - even though there may be life there, it is still something less than human, they say. The welfare of the mother is more important as her usefulness is greater to her family & society.

Those who love the Lord & know His Will, regard every human life in every stage of its development, as special & precious & to destroy that life is murder & so the destroyer stands before the God Who gave life & a life's Plan to that child. In our quest to enjoy life in both intimate & non-intimate environments, we pay little heed to the outcomes of our thoughts & actions. And so the verse seems most applicable: "every man did that which was right in his own eyes" ( Judges 17:6). It was no longer what God required of them & us but what we deem as correct & warranted based on our desires - and as you said, this folly is increasing in greater measure in the world around us.

To abort a child prior to 20-22 weeks as acceptable, is still murder. Will any government propose that it should be when both sperm & ovum unite is when life is created? Unfortunately, most don't accept that life commences before that point, even though it is clearly seen in the laboratory. Is the embryo then likened to an ant which we could step on & extinguish, giving it little further thought? How will mankind stand before God in that day? What excuse will he give or can he give? God's Righteousness will blow open the inherent wickedness deep within his heart & manifest all that has been covered over for the sake of happiness & expediency.

That's a fair comment you made, Veronica. I don't believe that Abram got away lightly over this deception as all sin is abominable to the Lord. Yet, we aren't told anymore about this matter apart from God's dealing with Pharaoh by sending plagues on him & his household. Rather this portion emphasizes God's action against Pharaoh for taking another woman, & especially, though not mentioned, one from a holy (a set apart) lineage. Maybe Pharaoh was ignorant over this & our ignorance over a possible objection by Abram & Sarai to her being taken, but his act of acquiring was sufficient to bring on God's displeasure.

So it's difficult to give a clear opinion based on what is revealed to us. What took place before Pharaoh & God's Actions as a result of the wrongs by both Abram & Pharaoh, are things we're not privy to & best left in the 'Unknown Tray'.

A good question, many would struggle with it and find themselves in the chicken or the egg situation. The reality God was there always, so the question of 'first' wouldn't be right. God, Jesus the Son, and Holy spirit are all in one. They cannot be separated from each other. There are many verses in the bible say the same. Also, there are only 6 days of creation according to the bible. And no where is it mentioned that Jesus was created!!

God the Father, Jesus the Son and Holy spirit all are outside the realm of time and space. As such it is difficult for many to understand how can something be forever without being created but that is the truth.

They all were present even before the creation.

Other scripture as a fellow brother suggested, was John 1.1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

2 The same was in the beginning with God.

3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

Also in John 1.14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

Hope this helps.

Please tell me which book of the Bible I can read to find peace, grace, joy or happiness our of hardness in my life. Please reply as soon as possible.

Many verses trintarians use like Jesus is the word would say the son came first if they really believe those verses saying it is Jesus .

All backwards

Who comes first the father or the son ?

My question is: any there anybody being tormented in hell ?

if we all have to stand before the great white throne judgement,

hell should be empty.

but i am reminderd that the rich fool lifted up his eyes in hell being tormented in flames.

thank you very much for clarity

sincerely cornell b flagg.

My question is: any there anybody being tormented in hell ?

if we all have to stand before the great white throne judgement,

hell should be empty.

but i am reminderd that the rich fool lifted up his eyes in hell being tormented in flames.

thank you very much for clarity

sincerely cornell b flagg.

Verse 22 and 23

If you do not believe that Jesus is who God said he is My SON , then if

You make Jesus anyone other than Gods witness you are creating another Jesus , for example GOD the Son or apart of a triune God . That's not the witness of God , Any other than what God said This is my Son is a denial of Gods very witness .

Any Jesus other than the one born in Bethlehem in the flesh and born of God . Is a lie and foreign to the truth . And Antichrist.

God gave witness that Jesus is his son .

There is no higher authority.

So how say some of you it's not the case . Actually Jesus is not his son but God himself !

You can not understand what God said if you alter exactly what he said " my Son .

I have another question for you at about the same level , which came first the chicken or the egg ?

The LORD is high above all nations, and his glory above the heavens.

Who is like unto the LORD our God, who dwelleth on high,

Who humbleth himself to behold the things that are in heaven, and in the earth!

He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth the needy out of the dunghill;

That he may set him with princes, even with the princes of his people.

He maketh the barren woman to keep house, and to be a joyful mother of children. Praise ye the LORD. ( Psalm 113:4-9)

I've heard this nonsense before , Jesus is not the author of the word of God the father is

1 Samuel 2:3 when you paraphrase...for the Lord is a God of knowledge, and by him actions are weighed.

I am also in my seventies, and I agree with you. People are twisting the words in the Bible to make them mean what they wish them to mean. I have lived through some tough times, but I have never seen evil coming against families and good people in general as what is happening now. My mother always taught us that we are to pray without ceasing, and we surely need to do so.

Is trintarianism a bigger cult than Islam ? Just wondering they have been killing each other in the name of God for centuries

Please pray that my mom doesn't have COVID. I am 26 and don't want her to have it.

Give the verses in Matthews that mention The Kingdom of God.

Deep human needs call to what is deep still in the things of God. Only deep satisfies what is deep

The Lord Jesus Christ is absolutely the greatest emancipator:

And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. ( John 8:32)

If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. ( John 8:36)

The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower. ( Psalm 18:2)

The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised, To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.( Luke 4:18-19)

For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. ( Romans 8:2)

Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. ( Galatians 5:1)

God is head over all

But do you understand?

I think not

What does Mathew 24:20 mean about flight in the winter and on Sabbath?

Always tell the truth

James 1:9? Did you read Revelation before making a comment?

To Learn Love, is to keep our Fathers Words. We meditate on His Kingdom in Spirit and truth and we seek His Righteousness before anything else. We Lift up our Lord Jesus and He draws all men unto Him. No man knows the hour of our Lord and indeed He comes like a theif in the night. When our Father reveals his Love as 1cornthians 13 says , You shall know and be known. Behold Jesus becomes Faith! , because faith is the evidence of things not seen...but now we see clearly ! It is no longer a dark glass but it it face to face! This is being entered into our Gods Kingdom, when the Father, the Son and His Spirit make their abode within you. May we seek JESUS JESUS JESUS , There is nothing too hard for our God