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Thank you for this awesome gift of music and the scripture. As a musician, I can appreciate the music. It is very moving and powerful, as well as extremely soothing. I can't thank you enough. I did as you said and I meditated over the scripture. I'm not quite sure what's supposed to happen next, but I pray that God illuminate my pathway. I am in prayer over my music ministry, over the novel I am writing and also over the need for a home that is my own. Please stand in prayer with me and pray that the deep and secret things are revealed unto me.

Thank you and God bless,

Doris

Froilan, we're unsure who founded the Church in Rome & it appears that even though Paul had written this great epistle to them, he was not the founder. He wrote this letter probably around the late AD 50s & the Church consisted mainly of Gentile converts.

Paul was anxious to minister in this Church which was widely known & their faith well reported of ( Rom 1:8), so he wrote this letter to prepare them for his planned visit, which of course never materialized. That was because Paul was arrested in Jerusalem & though he was then sent to Rome as a prisoner (early AD 60s), he never got to visit the Church there. We think that Phoebe, from the Corinthian Church, may have been the carrier of his letter (16:1) to Rome. So this letter comes to instruct the believers further in their knowledge of Jesus & to encourage them to live victoriously in a heathen environment.

When examining this great letter, we see that it is more formal than his other letters, as he sets out some important doctrines, chiefly, the doctrine of Justification by Faith & its ramifications. The letter's theme is The Righteousness of God (1:16,17). He then goes on to discuss: natural revelation (1:19,20), universal sin (3:9-20), justification (3.24), propitiation (3:25), faith (chap 4), original sin (5:12), union with Christ (chap 6), election & rejection of Israel (chaps 9-11), spiritual gifts (12:3-8), & respect for the government (13:1-7).

What are the gifts of the Holy Spirit?

I'd love to see these books of the Apocrypha put back into the KJV where they belong and where there for over 250 yrs . If you have not read them I highly recommend it .

Is there anyone doing this in print ? There is no copy write on the KJV so someone do some people a huge favor and get those printing presses going !

Terry, that's wonderful that you desire to help a dear one in this matter. As you know, most of the Bible gives the 'tonic' required to overcome our daily struggles in life, whether in the physical, emotional or spiritual realm. But I understand that you are actually looking for Scriptures that just demonstrate what a person goes through in life. The only real pertinent portions I can think of, relate to actual peoples' concerns & struggles within, so I offer the following:

a. King David. In many of the his Psalms, he writes of his anguish, loneliness, fear of the enemy, his heart-cry over sin, and the guilt he struggled with because of it. We also see his huge grief in the loss of his son ( 2 Samuel 12:15-24). See also Psalms 38 & 42 for various expressions of sorrow & despair. You can see many of his other Psalms.He was well acquainted with grief.

b. Elijah. 1 Kings 19:1-14. We see him fearing for his life as well as a lot of self-pity.

c. Jonah. Jonah chapter 4. He is an angry man, disobedient & selfish.

d. Job. Job 1 & 2. As you know, here is a man who lost everything: his family, servants & animals. He then was physically afflicted with boils. Chapter 3 shows some of his grief as well as other chapters as he talks with his 'friends' & God about what he is going through.

e. Jeremiah. Also known as the weeping prophet, Jeremiah suffered from constant rejection by the people he loved and reached out to. God had called him to preach, yet forbidden him to marry and have children. He lived alone, he ministered alone, he was poor, ridiculed, and rejected by his people. In the midst of it, he displayed great spiritual faith and strength, and yet we also see his honesty as he wrestled with despair and a great sense of failure. Jeremiah 20:14-18.

I hope that as you read these portions, & if you can read as much about the person as possible, you will learn how many of these notable folk suffered a great deal inwardly for an extended period of time.

Hi Brothers and Sisters in Christ Jesus!

I have received sudden revelations that I believe are directly from the Holy Spirit that were revealed to me during last night as I tried to get some sleep.

I am seriously asking you to pray for God's wisdom, God's knowledge and God's direction in what has become for me my sudden and absolute financial ruin. I can at this very moment in time no longer pay for my own bills or even buy my own food.

The original of the main cause of my problems was when Microsoft deliberately suspended my main email account for over 2 weeks.

I was then thrown into complete confusion, panic and fear. I just did not know how to cope. I was completely lost and bewildered.

Do you think that I should seriously consider actually suing Microsoft for damages, hurt and causing my sudden financial? I am very serious about this. I need your help!

Please pray, intercede and seek the Lord in the love and name of our Saviour Jesus Christ. Please get back to me as soon as you can.

Thank you and kindest regards.

Who are the great cloud of witness?

This woman was caught in adultery . Why did it not say fornication ?

Because fornication is out side of a marriage . ( not involving a married person ). You Can go with your dictionary but that's not the word of God . Be careful not to confuse mans interpretation for Gods . A Huge error these days .

where can i find the lost books of the bible

Greg I find it remarkable that you can understand the difference between fornication and adultery . You need a dictionary to tell you the definition? How about the Holy Spirit that we have that God has given us ? We need not that any man teach us .

So please no more vain words taken from mans doctrines ...

PRAYER REQUEST :

Concerning the pastor Thieringo : for the year 2020 and after :

Have best jobs with best wages incomes, best hours in Swiss country.

Protection prosperity wisdom chance success miracles,divine breakthroughs, financial breakthroughs, must be in pastor Thieringo's life in Jesus name.

When I(pastor Thieringo) cry, answer me, God of my justice! When I am in distress, save me! Have pity on me, listen to my prayer!

Sons of men, how long will my glory be outraged? How long will you love vanity, will you seek lies?

Know that Jehovah has chosen a godly man; The Lord hears when I cry to him.

Tremble, and sin not; Speak in your hearts on your bed, then shut up.

Offer sacrifices of righteousness, and trust in the LORD.

Many say, Who will make us see happiness? Bring on us the light of your face, O LORD!

You put in my heart more joy than they have when their wheat and their must abound.

I go to bed and sleep in peace, for you alone, O LORD! you give me security in my home.

May all the evils spirits directed against me, coming against me acting against me: be bound, go away and come no more against me. May satan be bound when it comes against me, when it acts against me, when it comes against me, when it acts against me, when it acts in my life: let it be bound go and don't come against me in the name of Jesus. May the Eternal God, the Lord Jesus, the Holy Spirit Spirit reprove him drive him away in the name of Jesus.

May the Lord God, the Lord Jesus, the Holy Spirit Spirit, Creatures Celestials of the Lord, Spirits of the Lord, who are in the service of the Eternal God, the Angels and Archangels of God, the fire of the resurrection power of Jesus Christ destroy the destroyer so that he may stop destroying me, so that he do not destroy me any more, stop those who persecute me to continue to persecute me, in the name of Jesus.

May all things is in my life that does not come from God come out and don't come back, may the plans of God, the destiny of God for m

Teresa,

Chris has shared some great things with you. There are many other things I could add but will leave it at that. I hope no one is attacking you personally for your belief. It's one thing to discredit the teachings of a church, but to attack an individual personally for what they believe is unacceptable. The Lord works in ways we cannot even begin to imagine. Like I said, I spent many years in the Catholic Church so I can understand you being disturbed by things said. It bothered me back in 1997 while I was still active duty military. I was put in charge of a section that had 4 Christians. They would get into biblical discussions and I was lost. I couldn't join in the conversations because I didn't understand what they were talking about. There I was, many years in the church, and I had no clue what they were saying. It should never be that way. You would think that after 30 years in the church, I would have a decent understanding of scripture. But I was never encouraged to read the bible. I visited several Catholic Churches and never once saw a bible in the pews or people bringing their bibles to church. It never bothered me then, but now it bothers me that so many people are being kept in the dark when it comes to God's word. The 4 Christians I mentioned were very careful and subtle in the way they said that many of the teachings of the Catholic Church were in error. It still bothered me. I think the Lord put me in that job for a reason. In my anger, I was going to "prove them wrong!" I started reading the bible to show them that my church was right in its teachings. But the more I read and the more I studied, the more the Lord revealed to me the truth. For 30 plus years, I sat every Sunday in a pew like a dead weed with no root and no spiritual growth. I've spent the last 23 years growing in Christ through His word. Don't be bothered by what is said about the Catholic Church. Instead, dig deep into God's word to see if what is being said is true.

What scriptures can you share with a person that you care about but don't understand the fact that every thing, is not going to go or be ok every day.

Please help me.

On Jonah three, when God tell you to do something , you better do it. Jonah was upset about going to Nineveh, because he knew that God would not destroy those people, once they repented. That why he tried to run. Do as God commands you to do and avoid the consequences. Don't play with God. Remember man can kill your body, but God can kill your body and soul.

Why dis Paul write the book of Romans?

The Son of God, Jesus, was presented as a lamb without spots. He came as the second Adam to reconcile an account that fell out of order and became unrighteous and sinful. That would be my account because I believe by faith and saw my very own cry in my heart for peace. I heard the call of His salvation and came to hear. I saw his peace and his humility and by his mercy I understood my sin and reached out to Jesus by faith and repented of my sin. By grace from his grace I found myself a new creature, forgiven and reconciled to God the Father by his son the Lamb of God. I had peace with God and man and most importantly love for my neighbor as myself. The Holy Spirit dwelling in my soul guides me and reproves me, sanctifies my life in me for His good purpose.

please pray for me

Revelation 16:12

The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up, to prepare the way for the kings from the EAST.

Revelation 9:16-18

The number of mounted troops was twice ten thousand times ten thousand; I heard their number. And this is how I saw the horses in my vision and those who rode them: they wore breastplates the color of fire and of sapphire and of sulfur, and the heads of the horses were like lions' heads, and fire and smoke and sulfur came out of their mouths. By these THREE PLAGUES, A THIRD OF MANKIND IS KILLED by the fire and smoke and sulfur coming out of their mouths.

Matthew 24:14

And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Isaiah 49:12

Behold, these shall come from AFAR, and behold, these from the north and from the west, and these from the land of Syene."

China gave us Swine FLU. SARS virus, Corona virus. I got a feeling that corona virus isn't done killing yet.

Google Past Pandemic LIST

It will have World death totals by country.

I don't think we need to act like this is just like past FLU episodes. We get a flu shot and feel protected for another year. Corona virus doesn't act like past flu's.

I didn't know there were any scriptures of China in the Bible. I looked it up as a lark.

It would be helpful if Bible scholars in here would look up the ancient names of those scriptures mention of places in China. What are their names now?

Stephende, I actually was one of those who, on the 25th October 1979, cried out "Jesus, Jesus, Jesus". I had come to see the greatness of my sins before God, by a deep intrusion into my heart by God's Spirit. It was a miracle in a moment: the burden of my sins was removed when I cried out in repentance & instantly the Peace of God from His forgiveness flooded my soul. It was a great personal transaction that can never be forgotten.

Yes, I was born again by God's Spirit; if that is 'an empty cliche' to you, it has been to me, the very source of bringing a worthless, hell-bound sinner to understand the greatness of God Love & His eternal Plan to restore mankind to Himself.

"What the Law (as perfect & Holy as it was) could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit." Romans 8:3,4.

It is wonderful to read of your love & obedience to God. And do you obey Him fully? Remembering: "For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." James 2:10. If that is you & your perfection is that which is attributed to God & His Christ, it is true, you have no need of such 'empty cliches' & you're Heaven-bound. However, I would say, for the rest of us, we would need His Sacrifice desperately as we could never keep His Laws & satisfy His Demands perfectly. To that end, God sent His only begotten Son into this World, for our sake & for our redemption through the shedding of His Blood. What the blood of bulls & goats couldn't do for Israel, Jesus Christ's Blood fully did for the sins of both Jew & Gentile alike. Keep reading His Word: Light & Truth are its blessings for all with a singular heart for God.

You should read the Bible and go by the Bible. Please don't read Lornas comment if you don't want to get dirty.

Not all. If we error we may lie to cover the error.

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So Teresa, I hope in this short space, you can see why God is concerned that we come to Him in the right way, God's Way & not the way we believe or by what we are told. And it's not a case of Catholicism versus Protestantism: there is no such thing with God - that is all man-made - God only looks for hearts that obey Him & come to Him through His Son only - not because of membership to a Church, or by denying Jesus' intercessory Work, or by re-sacrificing His Son each time at Mass, or even adding anything else to His gift of Faith to be saved. We need to get away from man-made institutions & methods & practise what the Bible teaches. I hope that you read this in the way it is given: with love & a concerned heart for you & for all Catholics who love God but are misled. Also for your understanding and that you can see that these matters are so important to God because how you accept them & believe them will determine how you will stand before Him when you see Him.

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e. last, but not least, this is probably the greatest hindrance to a Catholic's salvation: are you truly God's child because of what Jesus has done for you, or are you believing that you need to add to it to give you a guarantee?

Christ's salvation is given only by having FAITH in what He did for you on the Cross: faith in His dying for your sins, taking your place; His Resurrection back to life showing that God accepted His Sacrifice; His Ascension back into Heaven & His intercessory work for you right now. That's all you need is faith in Him - nothing else - no added works (however good they might be) to guarantee your salvation. ( Titus 3:5: "Not by WORKS of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost"). And Ephesians 2:8,9 "For by grace are ye saved through FAITH; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: NOT OF WORKS, lest any man should boast". If we add anything to faith for our salvation, then it's no longer of faith, but of works - & that is NOT God's salvation ( Romans 11:6).

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b. do you go to Confession for absolution? 1 Timothy 2:5 tells us that there is only one Mediator between God & man & His Name is Jesus. By believing that a priest can hear & absolve your sins shows that Christ is not approachable & cannot forgive, yet 1 John 1:9 says ""If we confess our sins (to whom?), he (Jesus) is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". We have our High Priest seated in Heaven (see Hebrews 5:5,6 & 10:21,22): there is no Priest, Cardinal or Pope that can ever do the work of Jesus in Heaven for us.

c. do you believe in the Eucharist that Christ's Body & Blood are physically evident there? Every time you partake of it, you are sacrificing Christ, or continuing Christ's sacrifice perpetually. Jesus died for your sins once only - we do great wrong to perpetually put Him to the Cross. Romans 6:9,10: "Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth NO MORE; death hath NO MORE dominion over him. For in that he died, he died unto sin ONCE: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God." Jesus is no longer at the Cross - He is seated at the Father's right Hand, continually interceding for His children ( Romans 8:34).

d. do you study God's Word for yourself or leave it up to the Priest to teach you? 2 Timothy 2:15, says to read & study God's Word for yourself & allow Him to speak to you from it. For many years, Catholics were not allowed to read the Bible for themselves, being told that they won't be able to understand it. So many blindly followed what they were taught - some are now reading the Bible for themselves & seeing new things. That is why we get such questions here: they may be very simple basic questions, but for those people, they were never told the Truth & so are desperate for answers. Please read the references I've given & other portions of the Bible in your devotion times with God: God will speak to you directly.

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Teresa, I hear what you're saying & no one can make a judgement about a person's position before God: that is in God's knowledge only. And I'm sure that within the Catholic Church, there are many genuine people who are born again of God's Spirit but have not come to that point of deep conviction of their connection with the Church or maybe finding it difficult to leave it. God sees their heart & will speak to them in His Own special way.

I know of & speak with a few RC folk & I also see their love for the Lord & devotion to Him, so why can't I just leave it there instead of teaching them from God's Word? Because in the Bible we are told how to make sure that we are His children, destined for Heaven. Some Catholics who are truly saved have sensed the need to leave the RC Church because what is said & done there is incompatible with what God says in the Bible & so their spirit is troubled. You know, many can be very good & devout, but that is never a qualification for salvation & for Heaven. There are many from other faiths that are likewise, but yet remain barred from Heaven. Why is that so?

It is because we may have a love & hunger for God, yet are disobedient to what God requires of us. In respect to Catholics, I ask:

a. are you really trusting only in Jesus for your salvation, or by being a member of the Church also? Read John 3:16 & Acts 4:12 (they speak of faith in Him alone & nothing else to save us). Being a member of the Church (any Church) won't save you, but being a part of Christ's Body (His Church) is God's Promise that you are saved. Do you pray to Mary, the Mother of our Lord, or even to the Saints? They won't hear you& can't help you & by praying to anyone except our Heavenly Father, means you have placed 'other gods' in your life & you know that is totally unacceptable.

You can Google Noah's wife. Look at Wikipedia. Apparently her name is in other religious manuscripts that were not canonized into the Bible. If it's not in a genealogy listing, you may not see it.

Again, female names are not always recorded in Bible genealogy. She existed to be sure. She had 3 sons with Noah. She was recorded of the 8 persons on the ark.

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Speaking on Noah drinking a wee too much wine; is he to be condemned by us for that?! He was in HIS bedroom. Why did his sons enter the bedroom after seeing he was nude? Two sons tried to cover his nakedness and 1 son broke out in announcing what state his father abode! Rude! They don't make lamps big enough for his head!

We give people a hand up instead of calling the whole town in for a look.

Teresa

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the Catholic Church is antichrist, but there are many teachings/dogma in the Catholic Church that are foreign to scripture and even go against scripture. I know about the Catholic Church, having spent more than 30 years of my life in it. So I have first-hand experience as far as what they teach. Most Catholics are devout people. On the outside it looks beautiful, but what is their relationship with Jesus Christ like? Back in 1997, I began questioning the church. I went through the same thing you are going through now, people saying that the teachings of my church were wrong. I too was offended by that. But at that time, I was one of those devout churchgoers that you speak of. However, my relationship, or more proper, my non-relationship with Jesus Christ began to weigh heavy on my mind. In 30 plus years, I was never taught about salvation other than salvation only came through the Catholic Church. Also, I was illiterate when it came to the bible. I look back now and I wonder how in more than 30 years of going to church could I be so illiterate when it came to God's word? Sure, we had the "readings" in church, but if you took the bible as a whole, the readings only covered maybe 10 percent of the entire bible, and it was the same readings over and over again, year after year.

I'm sure you can relate to what I am telling you. I saw a lot of devout people. But they were only devoted to the Catholic Church, not Jesus Christ. I broke free many years ago after receiving Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. What was I devoted to? Was it to a church system and placing my trust in it, or was I devoted to Christ and His word? We all have to make a choice, follow the teachings of a church or religious system, or follow Jesus Christ and His word. Sometimes that choice is tough and family may even turn on you. But it's far better to follow Jesus Christ than to be a devout follower of a church system that cannot save you!

Greg is totally right and here is more proof

Leviticus 20:11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness: both of them shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

...And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness:...

Looking at them naked? I do not think so...

This would easily make sense of this was the step mom of Ham.

This may or may not be true of step mom, it might actually have been his mother

Leviticus 20:18 And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people. (this shows you this is talking about intercourse as to time of the month for a woman)

Leviticus 18:6 None of you shall approach to any that is near of kin to him, to uncover their nakedness: I am the LORD.

Leviticus 18:7 The nakedness of thy father, or the nakedness of thy mother, shalt thou not uncover: she is thy mother; thou shalt not uncover her nakedness.

Leviticus 18:8 The nakedness of thy father's wife shalt thou not uncover: it is thy father's nakedness.

Leviticus 18:17 Thou shalt not uncover the nakedness of a woman and her daughter, neither shalt thou take her son's daughter, or her daughter's daughter, to uncover her nakedness; for they are her near kinswomen: it is wickedness.

I'm sorry, but you didn't address my question. I have many Bibles (KJV, NKJV, NASB, & CJSB) in which I study from, and many study bibles, concordances, commentaries, etc. I know who the scapegoat ultimately would be for mankind--Jesus Christ. My question for you is why does Numbers Chapter 28 not mention the Day of Atonement which involves the ritual of using 2 goats, one offered for the Sin Offering, and the other to be the scapegoat which is released into the wilderness. According to Leviticus Chapter 16, this was one of the, if not the most, hallowed holy day(s) of Israel, and commanded to be observed forever. I am hoping that you possibly could provide me with some insight as to why Numbers Chapter 28, which contains a list of Israelis' holy days for them to follow once in the Promised Land, does NOT mention the Day of Atonement & its prerequisites.

I would appreciate any response you can provide to the aforementioned. I thank you for your previous replies, but I'm getting everything except an answer to my rather pointed question.

God bless & thank you

James

The ladder in verse 12 is a depiction of Jesus as related to Nathanael by Jesus in John 1:51. He is the one and only mediator between God and man ( 1 Timothy 2:5). We can come boldly to the throne of grace by Jesus Christ ( Hebrews 4:14-16).

In John 3:13 Jesus tells Nicodemus "And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven."

Romans 10:6-9 states:

"But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)

Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)

But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved."

Paul told of a certain experience in 2 Corinthians 12 then humbly chose to glory in his infirmities rather than exalt himself, being made strong in weakness.

Ephesians 2:4-7 says:

"But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,

Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)

And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:

That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus."

From these I gather that by faith in Jesus Christ we are as good as being seated in heaven in Christ, but as Paul tells us in 2 Corinthians 5:6-7, "Therefore we are always confident, knowing that, whilst we are at home in the body, we are absent from the Lord:

(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)".