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Is abortion sin?

Is the husband the head of his wife?

I neglected to mention above that the full list of objectionable behaviors in the latter half of Romans 1 is the result of the wrong choices initially made in verses 21-23. An evil root yields detestable fruit.

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d. If the "government is lying about this contagion", why are so many dying 'like flies'? Is this too another government deception? Maybe this is actually not happening & it is some devious plot by wicked men to bring down society or totally enslave it? And this plot seems to be worldwide & it has truly gone 'viral'.

e. And yes, I generally obey what the government requires me to do. Yet, I know some laws are not well thought through, even to absurdity, but the law is the law & the penalty is there for disobedience. I believe that the occasion of this virus is genuine according to what we are seeing & we need to do all that we are able, to keep ourselves, our families & society safe. I have both faith in God for the outcome and also a social responsibility to my fellow man: I don't see any incongruity between the two: I believe that God expects this of us as Christians & to maintain a healthy testimony to others, giving love & support to those who have succumbed to this evil.

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Cheryl:

a. God did give us a perfect immune system, but after the fall, those systems became less than perfect. And this is proven by what mankind suffers throughout their lives, some much worse than others. Good "food & herbs" are important, but our sinful bodies have the final say.

b. that's wonderful that you desire to follow "God's expectations". And I can't show you from Scriptures about mask-wearing or social distancing - maybe Covid-19 & other viruses were not evident then or the Bible book writers didn't include that aspect. However, the Bible does tell me in Rom 13:1-7 that I need to obey/be subject to the government, for if I disobey, then I show contempt to what God has ordained for us. Yet, there may be times now & certainly later, when the governments will require Christians to do what is contrary to our faith & God's requirements. Peter in Acts 5:29 spoke well to the Jewish leaders when the apostles disobeyed the law & began to preach Jesus: "We ought to obey God rather than men". So, there is a clear occasion when we must disobey - disobeying now because of this virus' presence & impact, is not the occasion.

c. wearing masks may not be "good for our respiratory systems" but if they help to stop the spread of the virus & needless death, then I would think that it would be useful. For example, you're in a packed train going to work & someone next to you is sneezing & coughing profusely: how do you react? By all accounts, you would do nothing & trust God to protect you. That's great faith. But if your faith was a little diminished & you too suffered the same illness for a week or so, at least you expect to finally recover. With Covid, there is still hope for recovery for most, but for many, death looms (as published figures show). You may be ready to face your Maker, but the other person may not be in that joyful position. I wouldn't like to be in that position of sending one to his life's end, whether or not he was prepared for it.

ME ORIGINALLY: "I have evangelized many a Jew, and they hate the New Testament."

ME NOW: This is one of the reasons why I say the church will be here as the church has read this passage many times and it was relevant tot he first century church and it seems to be becoming relevant to the last generation whcih I believe we are.

YOU: As I have done to a lesser extent than you, in ministry to Muslims in Pakistan, who likewise discount the whole Bible as 'filled with errors' in 'light of the revelation given by the Quran'. My approach has always been to begin on common ground (on which there is much) & even using the Quran to establish foundational truths, so that progress (= more light) can be made & seen. Of course, one's own knowledge has to be very good & the hearer must also be inclined to learn. Sadly, deficiency in both areas, prevents a meaningful discourse taking place."

ME: Awesome! God is reaching a lot of muslims right now. I do talk to a few of them myself but I am sure not like you. We may not see the fruit of our efforts till we get to the otherside. So we keep on trucking for Jesus. You never know who you will reach. Do you ever listen to apologetics 17. He can be a let rough on Muslims be he is reaching them. David Woods is his name. I do the common ground thing with Muslims and go ahead with saying Isa adn then proving through Old Testament prophecies that Isa had to be the Messiah and had to die. David is rough, brash and tough but God is using it with him. I can't believe he hasn't been killed yet.

I found out last week that a lot of the mystical side of Judaism has taught that God has a son except they call him Metatron. Many fo the prophecies Jesus fulfilled they attribute to Metatron. I was blown away. It is the modern day judaism that has attacked this idea. The mystics at least got that right.

Hello Jesse,

This is such a controversial topic among Christians, some Christians believe the idea of Once Saved Always Saved and some don't. However, I believe that it is possible to lose salvation. Sin is a separation from God. Repenting is turning away from sin. When you repent, you have the free will of overcoming sin and not committing sin willfully. Jesus told the woman to "... go and sin no more" ( John 8:11), it wasn't, "go and try not to sin". Jesus gave parables about heaven that prove salvation can be lost ( Matthew 12, Luke 9:62, Rev 3:16, Rev 3:5, Rev 2:7). I believe the road to salvation is to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, repenting to overcome your sin and abide.

are the sacred pillars they set up for their false gods

Hi Chris, I have been very busy. I guess the best thing to do is respond with each comment to get back to where we were.

"ME ORIGINALLY: "I believe there is a double fulfillment with many things in this chapter that we in our time will experience, one of those being preaching the gospel to the whole world."

YOU: This is probably where a lot of error & misunderstanding comes up: how to dissect correctly what has been fulfilled & what is yet to come. In our natural mind, we tend to read things as a developing story, & so what was prophesied to occur prior to & at the arrival/destruction by the Roman Army in AD70, then also speaks about a great tribulation, which no doubt meant great suffering to the Jews at that time (i.e. from Mt 24:20 to the change in v 21). And the thought of the great tribulation is continued from there to v31, which clearly hasn't happened in its fullest sense.

me NOW:

This is why I hold to a double fulfillment. I believe that Bible allows for that at times as God used shadows and types in the Old Test. of future things that would take place. Abraham giving of his first son; God giving of us Son for one example of hundreds.

YOU: So much speculation arises, different teaching, & sometimes a trail of confused believers as to what is actually going on here. I just have to accept that post Cross, there was & will always be much suffering from the hands of wicked men (spirit of anti-Christ), & we must simply believe that all the prophecies given must be fulfilled according to the declarations by God.

ME: Amen bro. Jesus promised us suffering, and persecution. Those of us living in 'better' countries have just been pretty much lucky up till about now. I have been persecuted in the USA to some small degree and falsely accused of something I didn't do. I got a little taste of it.

I think it's healthy to express your emotion to God when praying. It's a sign you're being real. Use that opportunity to lay your burdens at his feet and to put your trust in God. If this occurs over an extended period of time and you don't feel any relief or healing you might evaluate whether you're truly giving it to God or if you're truly believing that you're forgiven, or whether you truly forgive others, or if you've truly forgiven yourself. May God bless you.

Why do i cry when praying

Do the verses 26-27 of this chapter mean that someone who was a Christian and after walking away from the Lord for many years, does this mean they cannot ever come back to Jesus and find forgiveness? Of course I knew I was sinning and I knew it was wrong without a doubt and even at times felt guilty but sinned anyway. I have repented and turned away from my life of sin but it seems like i am having a hard time accepting Gods forgiveness, or I can't be forgiven again, because I have that fearful feeling of judgement, can someone want to repent and be told No you have gone to far. I don't know if I am fighting a spiritual battle or I've lost it and just can't bring myself to admit it.

Respectfully looking for some help here

Hi i was reading Isaiah 42 and found this spelling mistake in it.

And I will turn my hand upon thee, and purely purge away thy dross, and take away all thy tin:

Surely this should be sin.

Bless you

Lynne

Melchezdec is God appearing with bread and wind representations of the coming of Jesus, the Baptizing of Believers, the shedding of Jesus's blood. The unyielding of man's dependency on GOD, The demonstration of GOD being everything we need (in war, trouble, time of peace and times of food needed for our health and our Everything} No matter what may come or go GOD is our answer in Prayer. Abram respected GOD to the Highest. He has manifested HIMSELF many times directing man to his awesome Powers and Protections. We serve the most High GOD, there is no one before HIM, no one beside HIM no one with HIM, HE is GOD all by HIMSELF. HE can be whatever HE wants to be when HE wants to.

Silly women and ever learning to me equals the Wild eyed young College educated women who scream and yell with protesters in the BLM movement. You can't reason with them. It's sad...I really think we're there!

The Holy bible Kjv fulfills a whole lot of prophecies. The book of Isisah chapter 9 talks about The Lord Jesus Christ being born of a virgin, this was fulfilled in scripture later on in the book of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. Mainly the Kjv bible tells prophies of The Lord Jesus Christ from being to end. And the quran doesn't even fulfill any prophecy neither will it help you be saved and get to heaven when you die. The Kjv bible says this in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 "1Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; 2By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain. 3For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:" That's the difference Jesus Christ rose from the dead to never ever dying again and also paying for your sin's. Do you believe this? if you do then you shall be saved.

More and more Christians are waking up to the true biblical flat earth FACT, backed

up and supported by 200+ scriptures and common sense. We do NOT live on that

fake, spinning ball, satanic deception, anti scriptural, Luciferian, Pagan, globe hoax,

most were brainwashed and indoctrinated into believing. Praise the Lord God almighty!

Ecclesiasticus & the other Books That are not in KJV has unknown others. Catholics use those Books.

Noah had a big job to do and it took around 110 years of his life building that boat. Using a modern "Royal Egyptian Cubit" of 20.6 inches, Noahs boat was 157 metres long. I think with Noah being an Adamite man of considerable stature, his cubit would have actually been bigger from elbow to finger tip and the ark much longer. The land bridges would have been in place back then and the continents all joined together before the great flood.

It is written "It is appointed for men to die once and then the judgement", Enoch and Elijah didn't die so perhaps God is saving them up for a certain job in future. Perhaps the two witnesses that will convert Israel.

Pray that I will understand and retain all the information that I am given

For Mel, You wouldn't call it incest as you have to put yourself in the picture when you read scripture. Pre Noah's flood, humans lived close to a thousand years and had lots and lots of kids. After Noah the new environment conditions and Gods command reduced our life span to 120 years.These days you may marry someone 5 or 10 years younger and have a few kids but in those days you may have married someone 200 years younger and from many generations away from yourself genetically. My grandparents had ten kids and lived for 85 years. Last count we had about 200 decendants from them. Can you imagine if they had lived for 900 years and their kids and kids kids also lived 900 years...Lots of people around quickly and after a few hundred years nobody would know who was closely related to who and all this in a pure Adamite Gene pool with very few of our modern defects. Cain was probably alone for a few hundred years before very happily bumping into a girl for him from one of his distant relatives. If you look at a world population graph, you will see how fast the population has grown in only the last few hundred years.

so then the beast were angels

I need a short summary of Job 14 for discussion on tomorrow morning. thanks

Thank you for your response. However, you misunderstood my question. I was not asking why it is that some religions observe the Sabbath on Sunday, rather than on Saturday. My question was regarding what, exactly, is the 4th Commandment. I was taught that it is "Honor thy father and thy mother," and, applied that answer to the question posted in the "Bible Trivia" quiz. I was surprised when my answer turned out to be incorrect. I listed the 10 Commandments in the order in which I was taught. To my understanding of the KJV, as well as the Catholic Version, it would appear that the Fourth Commandment is, "Honor thy father and thy mother," not, "Remember the Sabbath, to keep it holy." See rational below:

BOOK OF EXODUS:

Verses 1 - 6 (First Commandment)

Verse 7 (Second Commandment)

Verses 8 - 11 (Third Commandment) "Remember the Sabbath to keep it holy."

Verse 12 (Fourth Commandment) "Honor thy father and thy mother."

Still confused.

"if by reason of strength 80 years" this tells me that those who have strength in faith that endure to the end of tribulation would make the 80 year mark. 80 years from Israel becoming a nation May 14th 1948 is 2028. "for it is soon cut off, and we fly" says to me that the harpazo/rapturo/rapture will occur before may 14th 2021 if it is pre tribulation like I believe. the second coming would be sometime before may 14th 2028.

My name is PAMELA....I am in the hospital in Jacksonville...Florida with the Covid Virus and a touch of Pneumonia....I could really use some prayers!!!!Thank You

The truth here is ugly, but any that reject it do so to to their own peril. This isn't merely Paul's value judgment but is in fact God's assessment of the human condition. Any and all of us at our natural best are equally abominable in God's eyes and worthy of Hell forever. Paul even confesses this of himself ( 1 Timothy 1:15).

Yet God loves the vilest sinner and sent his son Jesus Christ to die on the cross to pay for all our sins. He didn't come to affirm us sinners in our destructive death styles, but to redeem us and deliver us out of it. It's really not love that holds back from warning a sinner, who is already condemned, about the coming judgment ( John 3:18). I encourage you to keep reading Romans.

Lou Contino

You are correct. The entire scene at the Cross is amazing.

I could not find the Scripture in Job that you were referencing, but dust is mentioned numerous times concerning the product of physical death.

I am under the impression that what Jesus was doing when he stated "My God, My God, why hast Thou forsaken Me" was that He was TEACHING to all that could hear.

If you want to know what Jesus said to them, read ALL of Psalms 22; spoken 1000 years before the Cross. Now THAT is AWESOME!

When Jesus addressed His heavenly Father He would always use the word "Father."

The OT phrase "that He hath done this" from Psalms 22:31 is equivalent to the NT phrase "it is finished" ( John 19:30).

i pray to receive the Holy Spirit and for guidance regarding my decision to attend a christian college.