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Mishae-I agree with you 100%

I would like to pray for my great nephew mother he is 2, she is 18 she had to have surgery because of she had too much protein in her urine she has been in the hospital for 2 weeks as of today. She had to have a blood transfusion.

I pray she gets well soon so she can get back to her son. I also want to pray for myself to get a better relationship with God and to continue to be a provider for my family. I want to pray for those that are homeless, struggling and fighting the coronavirus and all illnesses.

what is gods purpose for earth ?

Darby's family, that great "Christian", pre trib scholar owned Leap castle in Ireland reported to be the most haunted castle in the land. Birds of a feather.

Scofield who popularized the rapture in the USA cheated his mother in law out of her life savings and never repaid her. Supposedly he got "saved" in prison.

For all you Scofield lovers - get out your zionist Scofield Bible and read

1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."



Scofield footnote "O" says this verse has no real Biblical authority - in other words it does not belong in the Bible....

He was a charlatan and pseudo Bible scholar and you trust his pre trib rapture notes and dispensational theology?

He never paid a penny of support to his kids? both daughters said that and the Bible says in the mouths of 2 or 3 witnesses let everything be established.

He went to jail for swindling his mother in law of her life savings and NEVER paid her back

even when he made big money with the bible sales. WHY did he never repay them?

Why did he leave his DIVORCED wife and kids penniless?

Scofield's daughter and wife begged him to help them and he did nothing. Scofield made big money off his fake bible and did nothing for his kids.

1 Timothy 5:8But if any provide not for his own [family], and specially for those of his own house, he hath denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. The Bible says Scofield was an infidel.

No, it was UNGODLY people too lazy to study the bible who ignored his sins and filled those "churches" .

that is why harry potter outsells the "bible" today

When Hollywood makes movies about "LEFT BEHIND" you better check your theology.

Read Jesus in Matthew 13:30 when he said in the parable of the wheat that the tares or weeds get TAKEN FIRST.

So did Jesus get mistaken about the rapture timing?

Can anyone explain what's going on now in our country, where does this all fall in revelations, also explain mystery Babylon

Jo jo, if you are referring to John 3:21, then we see Jesus talking about light, that He had come as the Light of the World (v 19). However, since evil people rather prefer the darkness or else their evil deeds will be revealed by the light, Jesus uses this metaphor to show that those who are righteous (i.e. come to the Light), do so, so that their good lives will be manifest. And this good lifestyle will be seen as not of man but of God. So the word 'wrought' is this Scripture, means that ones good living & works are performed through God & for God, unlike those doing evil, who do it through the promptings & power of Satan.

You're correct that the naming of the days in the week does not necessarily equate to the numbered days of creation. In fact, I doubt if any one in any era, when calendars, stellar observances & other calculations were first employed, could correctly identify & assign those original days. With the many calendars that are around, we have to conclude that trying to figure out that question by searching in their roots, will be an impossible task without any evidence to appeal to.

I will like to know more about the last days?

It's a cheap shot to undermine the work of Christian Ministries. FYI I haven't had cable or streaming for the past 15 years! Satan owns cable.

You explain things from history. If you want to see some history in the making, go on Jerusalem post today: history of modern Jewish wars With the neighbors, Russia, China, Syria, Iran and 2 others.

People who argue the "Trib" theories are making bets in the dark.

The right one, is be ready TODAY. You are in danger. You've committed to a Trib theory; but you also convince others that it's the right one. If we chose wrong; we go through the Tribulation and those who believed you. God gives us the freewill to make Choices: just like Adam & Eve.

Everyone is held accountable for their choices!

People that visit this room: you make your own choice! Don't follow after others. Read the Bible and ASK the HOLY SPIRIT to teach you to understand it. Quit depending on others to choose for you. Choose Jesus. GO WITH HIM. He said be ready NOW.

Choose life with Jesus!

Bob: I asked God to make it rain if Pretrib was truth, and guess what? It's raining!

To Mickey and others who have embraced the "rapture theory". I gave an incorrect date of 1844. The "rapture theory" was actually "invented" in 1830 by John Nelson Darby and was embraced by Margaret MacDonald from Scotland. Do your research and you'll find the "rapture" is a false doctrine. May God bless you and keep you true to His Word.

Ok thank you Jesse GOD bless you love to everyone x

Jon,

I am going to assume that by you saying you really want to be saved that you are not saved now? I don't know if that is a correct assumption or not, but if you have not yet called upon the Lord Jesus Christ for His mercy, and ask for Him to come into your heart and save you, you need to do so if you truly are seeking salvation. Anyone can say the words "Jesus is Lord" with their mouth, but calling out to Christ to save you needs to come from the heart.

There is no magic formula that I can share with you on how to be saved other than telling you to call out to Christ. You need to receive Him. He has promised to save anyone who comes to Him asking for forgiveness and mercy ( Romans 10:13). As for the drug issue, there are professional agencies probably where you live that can help you with this issue, but you need to seek the help. However, the main concern is for your spiritual welfare. That must come first. Please call out to Jesus Christ to come into your life. Cast all your cares on Him. Everything else will work itself out in His timing. We serve a very powerful Savior who is able to take on all of our troubles, no matter how big or small.

Bob,

Are you referring to all pre-tribbers? If so, then you are completely off on your description of what I believe. There are many people who will die during the tribulation, who will be beheaded. These are not saved believers. These are those who refuse to worship the beast and take his mark.

There will be two witnesses, the 144,000 Jews who will be evangelizing, and also an angel flying in mid-heaven for the first 3-1/2 years warning people not to take the mark or worship the beast. The witnesses are not witnessing to believers. And the people who are being warned during the tribulation period are the ones who are going to have to make a decision. The church (All believers) already made their choice.

You say that "Every time we show plain scriptures of those dying in tribulation in revelation for the faith, it is explained away as apply to the "Jews" during that time."

Well, I would never try and explain it away as applying to just the Jews. It will apply to everyone on this planet, Jew and Gentile both, every single person, no matter who they are. These will all be non-believers who will have to go through this time of judgment. They are the ones who will have to make the choice to take the mark or not take it.

I do agree with you that many believers throughout the centuries have died for their faith, but we're talking about a whole different period of time, not the future 7-year period that is to come. I am one of those believers that knows full well that I can and should suffer for my faith. Jesus said we would suffer for our faith. But He never said I will suffer during the judgment that is to come on all those who reject Him. And like Paul, I would count it all joy to suffer for Christ's sake. However, my suffering is now, not alongside of a world that has rejected Christ and will suffer the consequence for it later.

Genesis 1:3 KJV

(3) And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.

What God is really saying in Genesis 1:3 that He IS (Hebrew: hayah) Light instead of "let there be light". The "I AM" is light "I AM" light.

This is the first message to the earth that had become without form (with the form of His righteousness) and void of the knowledge of God and the heart of mankind became darkened. Mankind needs to have the knowledge of God declared unto him.

This is the message which we have heard of Him and is declared unto us: that God is lightand this message is found from the beginning in Genesis 1:3.

1 John 1:5 KJV

(5) This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

The message was from the beginning in Genesis 1:3 that was heard..the Word of life. This Word or Saying of life is that "God is light" and in Him is no darkness at all.

1 John 1:1 KJV

(1) That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

This light shines within our very own hearts when we hear the voice of Jesus who comes to open up the Scriptures to our ears. It is the witness of God within us about His Son whose voice we are to hear. It shines in a dark place (the heart). The bright and morning star arises within our hearts when we hear the voice of the Son interpreting the Scriptures.

2 Peter 1:19-20 KJV

(19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts: (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

"And there was light"as we are to become children of light when we have that light within us. While we have the light, we are to believe in the light so that we may be children of light.

Mishael, the trouble with pre tribbers is they do not understand the difference between the wrath of God and judgment.

10 of the 12 apostles died for their faith. Stephen died for his faith. Paul died for his faith.

Millions of Christians, in the last 100 years, died for their faith in communist Russia.

Yet pre tribbers do not feel they would ever have to suffer the same fate?

The wrath of the devil and the wrath of God is not the same, sadly this point is lost on most it seems.

Every time we show plain scriptures of those dying in tribulation in revelation for the faith, it is explained away as apply to the "Jews" during that time.

As if the Lord would never allow his church to suffer.

The Lord protected Noah IN the flood, the three Hebrew children IN the furnace of fire, Daniel IN the lions den. Yet Stephen died for his faith in Christ as did many millions of others, some in Communist Russia under Stalin in the last 100 years. Where was the rapture for them?

Acts 12:1 - Now about that time Herod the king stretched forth his hands to vex certain of the church. And he killed James the brother of John with the sword.

Act 12:3 - And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also. (Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

It is the wicked who kill those who have the testimony of Jesus.

Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Maybe watch TBN and the 700 club less and read the history of Christians under communism in Russia.

Bob Hilt:

Do really believe that Jesus is going to suffer His Bride; the Bride of Christ;

To go all the way through the Tribulation for the 7th Trumpet?

To be tempted to take Antichrist's Mark of the Beast?

To bow down and Worship the Antichrist?

To be hunted like an animal by Antichrist's evil agents and taken to either take The Mark or be beheaded for the Testimony of Jesus ?

To suffer screaming hunger and thirst because she has no way to get either?

All believers who have been born again throughout human history?

There is no scripture for what you preach.

Your love of your own point of view endangers others.

Please pray for me I have stomach disorder from last 14 years doctors say it is ibs I dont know whether it is ibs or gastroparesis pain in right side

Beside navel ascending towards diaphragm had all medications n therapies but can't find cure

Having gastric problems pain n constipation

Thank u

What does the word wrought mean in Luke 3 verse 21?

Hi John,

>"The churches also change God's plan for marriage."

What do you mean by 'churches' change God's plan for marriage? How? Which churches? Ones you attend or do you assume all are a certain way because of some you visited or a few people within the church you spoke to? Aren't the people who attend church just reading what the Bible says? In the decades I've attended churches- hundreds of them, not once have I seen anyone 'change' God's plan for marriage.

In your previous comment you claimed that premarital sex is not sinful which is not what the Bible says, and now you're claiming to know God's plan for marriage? How do we know what you're saying isn't the devil's plan? And why assume that a cultural difference in popular marital age is God's plan? Paul said to stay single if you can and that's in the Bible, so I don't know how you assume God thinks everyone must get married by a certain age or that its ok to sin. If you put your hope and trust in God and learn about Him from the Bible and consider that an authority then what are your Bible references to back up this claim?

Where in the Old Testament does it say that Ishmael persecuted Isaac? Galatians 4:29 But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.

I believe this section 4:22-31 among many in the Bible has been tampered with to stir contention in the middle east, and divide the Muslim tribes from the Jews, and now too with a divisive wall between all 3.

I am in Christ, but have never experienced true freedom, not because of the Ishmaelites, Muslims, but because of white supremacists who have been persecuting the Muslims, Jews, & Christians for a VERY LONG TIME.

These white supremacists have used occultic practices to control minds, hearts and turn brother against brother.

It's time for the true Christians to get up off their hind quarters and pray for the household of Abraham- for healing, reconciliation, peace and unity.

The white supremacists don't want a house united because a house united means power that the white supremacists cannot dominate. Their army will be destroyed very quickly, so now they use surveillance and lethal drones which is a very cowardly thing to do. They feel powerful when they are armed with their hi-tech weapons, and only aim to kill people they provoke to lash out, just so they have a reason to arrest, blow up, bomb innocent children, and use the excuse that it was an accident.

Enough perversion of the Scripture as white supremacists have done for years to keep people enslaved, ignorant, and even in separating them from their children.

prayers for an elder in his 70's who has covid 19.

2 Timothy 3:13

But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Genesis chapter 1:

Adam was given Dominion over creation: NOT other people. No matter what color we all are; no one has the blessing of God to persecute others because of race, religion, lack of education or anything else. People are rioting for this cause. You have to rise up above this and fully depend on God to turn this around for you.

To rid yourself of Demonic persecution, you must rededicate your life to God; or be born again. It's drawing a line in the sand and telling Satan and his demons they cannot go through the Blood of Jesus to hurt you anymore, ever!

You can't begin to do that until you repent of sin, turn from it and turn to Jesus for Salvation and the new birth. It has to be a lifetime choice. No fence sitting allowed.

This website has a page that you can go through steps to peace with God. Go back to the red page and find the link for it.

When things are repaired between you and God, He will make the demons leave. But you must learn how to enforce it.

Sit through a teaching by Derek Prince concerning Spiritual Warfare using YouTube.

You have need of knowledge. I had to learn it too. Step out of satans darkness and come, live in the Light and Love of Jesus. Read your Bible a chapter a day; start at Matthew. Ask Holy Spirit to help you understand spiritual truth. That's his job. He tells you about sin and how to live life.

You misunderstand the Biblical word fornication. Fornication was false god worship of the false gods of

Baal and Ashtoreth, the god and goddess of fertility. The worship was sex in the groves in an open orgy

where everyone was watching everyone else having sex. It was the pornography of the times. If you did

not have a willing woman partner as a man, then the temple would rent you a prostitute,. If a woman did

not have a male willing partner, then the temple would rent her a male prostitute to have sex with. Interestingly,

the words for these prostitutes were porneuo and pornea from which we transliterate rigth out of the Bible

for our terms of pornography today. It was the same practice of watching other people having sex.

And if a man entice a maid that is not betrothed, and lie with her, he shall surely endow her to be his wife. Exodus 22:16

The churches also change God's plan for marriage. In the OT kids became adults at 13 and got married at 14-15 when their hormones were raging. Now the churches and parents tell kids to got to college and get a degree then a good job and wait to have sex until then when you are married which totally is against God's plan for marriage

Rom 10:17-So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.

Living: 2Co 5:7-(For we walk by faith, not by sight:)

Rom 1:17-For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.

Praying: Jude 1:20-But ye, beloved, building up yourselves on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Ghost,

Action: Here are some more faith scriptures for you to read and study. God Bless!

James 2:1-26 and the whole chapter of Hebrews 11.

1 Corinthians Chapter 7:7 For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.

8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.

9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.

>"So it was not sin as long as they got married at some future point afterwards"

Hello, I'm not sure who told you that, but that doesn't come from God and isn't Biblical or true. The father of lies (satan) loves distorting the minds of Christians and encouraging them to spread falsehoods to others. Even though Christians are saved by grace sin is a big deal and should be avoided at nearly all costs. John 14:15, Matthew 5:29-30. Matthew 7:16-27, Matthew 7:26-27, Galatians 5:17, Hebrews 10:26.

Yes he is real

Revelation 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which thou sawest in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The SEVEN STARS are the ANGELS angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which thou sawest are the seven churches. Seems to me that each church has an angel for protection

Jesus speaks in Matthew 23:37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! (in Jesus time)

Who killed the prophets? ...O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets...

Revelation 18:24 and in her (Babylon) was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.