Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 691

Being that alcohol is one of the biggest destroyers of families and lives, I would think the the Lord would want us to stay away from something that so easily becomes ok, which is exactly how the devil operates.

Bro, Dan we cannot take the bible literally...The letter is a killer but the Spirit of the word is life...As Jesus said my words are SPIRIT and LIFE...Thats y he always spoke in parables....There things are hid from the wise and prudent but revealed unto Babes and sucklings which are Spirits...Baby Spirits...Which is that Child of Promise that has to be born in us via his seeds his words etc.

.....He has made us able ministers of the living Word....Not the written word a killer...The written word was the old covenant but the new covenant is the living Word...2 nd Cor...3 : 6 KJV

.....Thats y the new birth is in the SPIRIT....Simply b/c that good seed is spirit and life...The new COVENANT....Yielding a new innerman which is the H.G. that is SPIRIT....We war in the SPIRIT not in the flesh....We must be born again of the Spirit that new Covenant...Not the letter of the word that old covenant death.

....Yes Dan Jesus did quote from the O.T....But his words are the New Covenant much greater then the old Covenant. He wrote the New Covenant with is own blood....I will make a new Covenant with the house of Judah and ISRAEL...NOT ACCORDING TO THE COVENANT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS ETC...I will put my words n their hearts and minds and those WORDS are SPIRIT AND LIFE....And hid from the wise and prudent simply b/c they are of the Spirit...Thus not literal words....If his words were literal we wd not need the anointing to teach us Spritual things....The New Covenant.

......The Law and the Prophets were till John ( the literal word the LAW ) since that time the Kingdom of God is preached and all men press into it simply b/c its in the Spirit....Its not a literal Kingdom but a spritual kingdom....Which is the H.G.

Kathy, that is a very good question. I do not know of a Scripture verse that speaks to this. But i do think that when we get to heaven we will understand more fully how right and just God's judgments are for each individual person. We may be aware that one we loved is not in heaven with us. Rather, they are spending eternity in hell. However, I think when we realize how wonderful our God is we will understand and agree that those who rejected Him just cannot be with Him for eternity and that God indeed does what He has told us He will do. He is true to His Word, promises to those who believe, and proclamations of judgment upon all who refuse to believe in Him.

Our God is the most necessary, valuable, and desirable Being for any of us. Without Him we would not be. For those who have rejected Him, eternal separation from Him is the deepest grief and suffering one can ever experience. But, Hallelujah, to those who are reconciled to Him, He is the greatest treasure and pleasure we could ever know. He is worthy of all of our love, devotion, and praise! In this life, we who believe have a foretaste of Him, but in heaven we will be completely satiated and satisfied in Him.

Bro Spencer,

Amen. I agree with much that you have stated here in this thread.

I believe that we should all agree, that the Bible is God's Word, and I believe we are to read the words literally. Another good reason to read the bible in a literal manner is because Jesus Christ took it literally. From time to time, Jesus quotes directly from the OT. When Jesus was tempted by Satan in Luke 4, he answered using quotes from the OT., God's commands in Deuteronomy 6:13, 8:3, are literal, and Jesus used them in this manner.

So, if Jesus shows us in scripture that He took the bible literally, I believe we should too!

God Bless.

If a family member does not go to heaven because they never received Salvation, will I know that they aren't in heaven?

In reply to cheryl dunhams question: since melchisedec had no earthly (father ) and no earthly ( mother ) and no earthly (beginning of days ) or ( end of life ) but was ( made ) like unto the ( son of god !! ) it is fair to say that he just ( is ).

which is to say : he is beneath the great ( i - am !!! )

but above we humans of ( birth !! ) because he was ( made !!! )

so he has to fall under the catorgory of (just - is !!! )

Psalms 121:4

Behold, HE that keepeth Israel shall neither slumbers nor sleep.

Psalms 121:3

He will not suffer thy foot to be moved: he that keepeth thee will not slumber.

Roman's 11:7-8

What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election (Gentiles) hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear; unto this day.

Comment: no one is sneaking anything past God. We can choose to live for Messiah Jesus, or ___.

S Steven GBU But you keep saying that we preach there is no damnable Consequences....What do you think that lake of fire does FOR us....It destroys our old adamic nature which is Satans seat that is our carnal minds his enemy...Steven do you not understand that God wants to make his enemy his footstool which is our carnal minds, our Old adamic nature is his enemy thats y we must go thru that lake of fire to destroy his enemy Satans Seat our carnal minds ....

....Thats y the Kingdom has to be with in us, it has to be internal not external...An external kingdom wd be no threat to Satan simply b/c Satans seat is with in us...our carnal minds is Satans seat...According to Rev. 2 : 13....The Kingdom cannot be in our midst it has to be with in us, Internal not external....As Jesus said i dwell with you ( in their midst ) but shall be with in you.. John 14 : 17 kjv

Steven the most Damnable Consequence IS ETERNAL DEATH..b/c of our sin nature...But we can escape death by the new birth being born again of an incorruptible seed...His blood etc....(Which is his baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE )....That refiners fire and fullers soap is the H.G. and FIRE...Which is his judgement and love....That resulted from the Cross...His blood etc....If i be lifted up I will draw all men unto me...Do you not see the blood of the lamb. is for everybody.

There are no giants today! The dead in Isaiah 14:9 is the Rephaim the fallen that joined him and refused to be born of woman; the 7k already sentenced to die(Revelation11) because they refused to be born of women and take part in this age but instead left their 1st estate to seduce women just as Satan did starting with Eve..Nephilim-fallen ones; naphal=to fall = resulting in Giants- mix flesh women with fallen angels and the whole purpose of the flood of Noah for every flesh except Noah and his family were corrupted. Noah and his family were the only pure pedigree at time of flood. They are locked in chains in darkness awaiting judgement ( 2 Peter 2:4) where they can no longer intermix and will be loosed again for 5 months picking up where they left off as in the days of Noah giving and taking in marriage at the 6th trump. Their spirits can still entice and possess people as can Satan's but their true spirit bodies the Hebr. Ruach, the solid spirit can no longer traverse-de-facto, where they can seduce women and sire giants.

Diane by no means do you put up with abuse of any kind. You are a child of GOD, a Christian; not a 2nd class citizen and Christians should never let anyone walk on them. In Mathew 18:15-:20 you admonish them showing them the error of their way and if they don't ask for forgiveness and repent than rebuke them and set them aside ( Romans 16:17). That means don't hang out with them, putting yourself through any chance for abuse, don't hate them but be pleasant like it doesn't bother you, live your life as a Christian who will be blessed. When they see how good your life is, then they will want it too. These people you are talking about do not sound like Christians to me, if they were they would not abuse. Therefore you do not put up with them but put them aside until/if they have a change of heart. Yes love your enemies if they have turned from their ways and accepted CHRIST. Talk to them and tell them how you feel if that does no good then live in peace and harmony knowing their sin is not on you. 2 Thessalonians 3:6-:14 Luke 17:3,4. Someone has to ask for forgiveness to receive it. When that happens they must repent and have a complete change of heart, making a commitment to never do it again. You are under no obligation to forgive one that does not come to you and ask. But for your own health, in your own heart it is better that you do and move on, because it will turn to hate and bitterness where the devil will sneak in.

S Steven you do greatly err.. Luke 12 : 49 Jesus said i come to bring fire on the earth and what if it is already kindled...Steven he is talking to everybody we all need that BAPTISM OF THE H.G. and FIRE....His Fire..Which is spirit as God is Spirit...

Can you not understand that our God is a Consuming fire Hebrews 12 : 29 ....But our God is also Spirit....

......Steven its the result of the Cross that he will baptise us with the H.G. and fire...which is his love for humanity....Remember the H.G. was not yet given b/c that Jesus was not yet glorified....The Great Promise of the H.G. did not come till after the Cross.

The H.G. is that fire that we soo need...And the H.G. is his Judgement but the H.G. is also his love for humanity.

.....Steven even in the natural....We chastise our Kids simply b/c we love them....Our judgement/wrath is our love for our kids...God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosover believeth on him will have eternal life....Steven I pray for you in Jesus name....You are eat up with hate and lies....Just yesterday i said its not his will that any should Parish but ALL SHOULD COME TO REPENTANCE..2 nd peter 3 : 9....Then you told us that the refiners fire and the fullers soap was done away with which is the H.G. and fire... Mal 3 : 2...STEVEN YOU ARE CONFUSED....Steven do you not see that the refiners fire is the H.G. that will neva be done away with ...ok smh ...GBU Steven....Judgement and love are attributes of the Father steven

FYI

The movie, KING DAVID, is on YouTube now (the full movie). It's not the one, to "buy or rent.

Drop down to the one showing 50 reels. I watched it. It's the full movie; no stops between reels.

If you haven't seen it, you'll like is: especially the part where David fights Goliath.

Hello Donya. I wasn't sure to what level you wanted to go to for an explanation, hence my brief reply. I suppose your dialogue with that enquiring student has now long ended, but if you're still interested in more material on Sanctification, I would add the following:

As mentioned, 'sanctify' means 'to set apart'; having the same root as 'saint and holy'. For the believer, sanctification is generally seen in three aspects.

a. Positional Sanctification. The believer been set apart by his position in God's family. This is so of every true believer regardless of his spiritual condition because this concerns his spiritual state not his present condition (remember 1 Corinthians 6:11 was read by largely carnal Christians). This sanctification is based on Christ's Death as seen in Hebrews 10:10.

b. Experiential Sanctification. Since we have been set apart, we are to be increasingly set apart from the flesh & world in our daily experience ( 1 Peter 1:14-16). So when 'spiritual growth' is spoken about & expected in believers, it is this progressive & experiential aspect of the sanctifying work that should be our continual aspiration.

c. Future Sanctification. Also referred to as 'completed redemption'. We believe that the redemption we now have in Christ is complete in its work before God & in our lives (in the matter of release of sin's penalty & grip). Likewise, our future redemption or sanctification implies that their full meaning can only be grasped when our 'position & practise' comes into full & perfect accord when we see Jesus, raised to be with Him, & become as He is ( 1 John 3:1-3; Ephesians 5:26,27; Jude 1:24,25): This is our Redemption/Sanctification completed. Hope this 'extra' will assist you for the future.

It was heartening to read something of your work. Having done some ministry in Pakistan, I can well appreciate the vigilance & discretion required when sharing with folk. May much fruit be borne as the Spirit leads you all.

Every blessing sister.

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Thank you

Agreed Steven,

For some, this isn't just being led astray by a false belief, it is promulgating a false belief given to them by Satan and refuse to repent. Perhaps they cannot. And so, I continue to pray for those who continue to repeat very unsound and damaging doctirnes.

Hello Larry. Not sure if you're suggesting that God anointed men from the East to be His witnesses, i.e. Muslims. Maybe not & I misunderstood you & you meant something else, because not only does Isaiah not suggest that, but Islam only came into being from approx. 610 AD when Muhammed supposedly began receiving revelations & Judah's captivity to Babylon commenced from approx. 590 BC.

Deuteronomy 10:16

Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked.

Goliath of Gath, was the only giant I know of. Killed by a teen-aged David.

I don't read the Apocrypha. The link is out on the RED LINK entrance page. It has more about giants, Chaldeans, and other occult believing peoples. I have no interest in it, because of my background.

You can read it if it's important to you. I did Google " giant skeletons". I didn't see anything believable.

Are the giants exist today and not telling us?

Ayomide,

Amen! When I graduated high school I received a KJV study bible as a gift. This sat on a shelf in its original box for over 20 years. It now is full of highlights and notes. It has travelled with me. It has become my "most valuable posession" and I praise God for this gift he layed upon someone's heart to provide to me.

God Bless You and may His word lay upon your heart even more than it has mine!

Hi William. We would say it this way: 'royal seed'. 2 Kings 11:1 can be connected to 2 Kings 9:27, where King Jehu ordered the killing of King Ahaziah (Judah). So, when the mother of Ahaziah (Athaliah) "saw that her son was dead", she not only became incensed, but also sought to destroy every possible heir apparent to the throne. But she missed one heir, Joash. He was kept hidden for six years and later became King of Judah. But in the interim (for six years), the wicked mother, Athaliah, reigned over Judah.

The scripture such as Isaiah 66 and of course Rev. 22 along with the gospels make it clear that there is punishment for the wicked.

And of course Antichrist and the False Prophet are already in torment 1000 years before Satan meets his fate. For the believer; perhaps certain verses such as "if I make my bed in hell you are still with me" ( Psalm 139:8) would be for those who such as Jonah who literally may have been dead and under the earth while simultaneously in the whale as some would surmise. God's presence in some sense is there even with His wrath; but there is no comfort in that.

What should be considered here is that there is no love of righteousness for the wicked. A house cannot be indwelled with the Holy Spirit as resident unless a transformed heart takes place; and that in this life. Unregenerate man rarely blasphemies the Spirit as the Pharisees did (being the unforgiveable sin); but in the end it likely happens in the Tribulation. As Jeremiah 17:9 states the heart of man is despereately wicked; who can understand it? We are incapable of selfless love for the wicked; or loving Christ in our old nature. We have two alternatives; dying to self and renouncing our own wicked; hopeless state; or choosing to own our own wills and thus forever be stuck in our sin nature which simply means doing things OUR way. It is only an attempt in this life to avoid consequences of sin; not being affected because we have offended a Holy God; or true remorse and realization of our state before a Holy God. The Spirit reminds us of sin; righteousness and judgment to come. Without it; we cannot make sense of the fact that there is no good in us or our works; or that others we know and love apart from Christ are also doomed. We put our hopes in emotional affection for family or friends; alive or dead-oblivious to where they are spending their eternity. And all we see is evil in others and the world but cannot trust God will bring any good out of it.

Verse1&2; remembering israeland 'Jerusalem the land, as the land become desolate and destroyed by the Roman's and he ANNOINT the men from east to be his witnesses the Muslim.

4-21 22-26 Israel failure to follow God

I'm reminded of a conversation I had on my job some years Go. Those Men knew how I believed, and they spent all morning trying to get a ride out of me. Quoting Scriptures, they didn't understand and their Doctrine. I told someone today,, most Christians can tell you what they be!ieve, but they can't tell you WHY. They'll say, , This is what my Pastor Preaches and He Preaches Truth. Okay,, He just might,, that's good. But why do you believe it? My Father in Law, said so many times. " Don't believe it because I said it, study it, show yourself approved and know if for Yourself. " That's why we have so many People following so much mess today.

But that Crowd was coming at Me with everything but the kitchen sink, with their,, I'm allright, He's allright, She's allright, Everybody is a sinner, We all sin. This thinking, crowd just wants to sins, and they want a clean conscience while they do it.

And finally I said" Look it's around 12:00 ,and I haven't sinner yet. I'm not telling you I want need The Grace of God before the day is over. But I didn't get up this morning to see how much sin I could get by with, I got up trying not to sin.:And then I dropped this Bomb from The Holy Ghost: I said" I guess that's like my Brother in Law, He doesn't go to Church, pay his tithes, he is abusive to His Children. He drinks, smokes, does drugs fights everybody, cuss you out in a heartbeat, beats His Wife, He runs around on Her all the time. You know when He gets to Heaven He won't have any rewards at all will he? "

And they all looked at Me like I was crazy, and I said" What,, He's going ain't He, ain't that what y'all been saying all morning long, He can't never get out. And then I said" Do you see how crazy that sounds? Nobody even responded ,, and The Lord put them all to silence. Listen if the Righteous scarcely be saved, by the skin of our teeth. Where Shall the Sinner appear?

Mikey Out. Biscoe House of Mercy

Thanks Gigi.

There's so much going on in the world today with all of the evil in front of us. The invasion in Ukraine,

The murders of those kids in Texas and all over the world it gets worse and worse. Turn to God, repentance and the wrath of God should be preached.

What do the scripture say about fear the Lord? Alot!!

What I think is most evil is they don't believe in it, Why does it bother them that we preach it?

Better yet why come on here where the extreme majority believe in atleast Satan. Maybe slightly less in Hell.

It's to much evil in the world to try and encourage a sinner by way of telling him he's going to heaven regardless.

Let me be clear, This doesn't seem like individuals being deceived! It seems a lot worse than that!

It takes energy for one to be this far off the fundamentals of the faith!!

God bless.

Greetings in Christ Chris,

Thank you for your generous explanation for Sanctification. I am a missionary working with a Peace Mission to China, teaching: English Communication Skills and providing Cross-cultural Counseling and some family counseling. My students are University Professors, their families and friends who are all in China. We work on WeChat and on the computer/internet.

I began my work 33 + years ago. In the early 90s I founded HIS Mission, (Helping International Students/Scholars). A couple of weeks ago one student asked me about Sanctification. Of course, English is not their first language. That is what inspired me to ask my question. And, of course, The King James Bible is what I prefer and try to teach them to use.

Since Christianity is against the law in China, I do have to be very careful - for their sake and for my own ability to continue my work with them. You have been very helpful with your time and attention and I appreciation the additional references you offered. All that you have provided will enable me to check out additional information in order to carry out my work of ministry and God's Mission.

Thanks Again, Chris.

Take Care.

God Bless,

Donya

PS Keep Up the Good Work!!

Thank you Steven, You have spoken well here. Those who speak of universal salvation without a need for repentance and faith in Jesus are preaching another gospel than the one preached by Jesus, Pau, and the apostles. It is wise for believers not to heed such a "gospel" but expose it's errors like you have done here in this post.

I so appreciate how well you explained this matter here.

There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

Hebrews 10:26-31.

That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

Here's what that heresy looks like .

They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

It says Jesus died in vain!

It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

They look at John 3:16. and

John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

.....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and Fire.

That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

Romans 10:15.

Mark 16:15.

God bless."

The Kjv is good

There's Judgment for sinners and There's chastening for believers.

Ether way I don't wish this on no one!

Hebrews 10:26-31.

That's one reason why we preach the cross Continuously! There's blessings and on the other hand There's consequences therefore we preach repentance.

If there's no damnable consequences why preach?

We've been given an urge to preach God's grace. OUR MESSAGE HAS VIRTUE! IT IS SALVATION!!

It has eternal security for the believer! and it has the ONLY escape from Hell. It brings those out of darkness.

If there is another Gospel out there that don't have repentance, Holiness, no wrath of God and no hell. THEN IT CAN'T HAVE SALVATION. " What are you saved from? And if all go to heaven no matter what. Why do you preach and stand in the way of THE Gospel that we preach? It shouldn't bother you unless we have opposing spirits.

Here's what that heresy looks like .

They treat wrath as if it's reward. This is a errored teaching against the effects of the cross.

It speaks in this manner, "Forget the cross, We needs God's wrath!

Forget Holllyness, do evil so we can be thrown in the lake of fire and be purified.

It says Jesus died in vain!

It says God Love on display when Christ died on the cross was pointless.

Thet look at John 3:16. and

John 15:13, They don't say thank you Lord, They say it was unnecessary.

There's no preaching forgiveness for sins to those who trust In Christ, It says hell and the punishment reserved for Satan and his Angels is what you need.

Here's a direct quote from one just a few days ago "

.....Every sinner will have their part in the lake of fire....thank you Jesus that is what we ALL NEED....His baptism of the HG and Fire.

That's their Goodnews/Gospel.

They say this is from God but they can't take that to their local Church. But they come on the site to attack the truth.

Romans 10:15.

Mark 16:15.

God bless.